Hey All,
I'm in need of a 2" flush trim bit and have been looking at what's offered
from Freud, Jesada, and Whiteside. Whiteside is unique in that they offer a
2 flute and a 3 flute bit. Both are 2" carbide and 1/2" diameter. The
offerings from Freud and Jesada are both 2 flute bits. And, of course, the
Whiteside bit is about 50% pricier.
So the question is, what benefits will I get from spending the extra cash on
the 3 flute Whiteside bit? Less prone to chipout? Easier on the router
(3.5HP Milwaukee)?
Thanks for any input.
Brian.
"CobraPilot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> 50% more cuts per revolution?
>
Or 33% more depending on how you do your math. Either way, though, what
does this translate to in real terms? Higher maximum feed rate, I suppose.
But that's not much of a selling point for me. What else?
Brian.
"RWM" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:D4ydnS0pRq-V-4TdRVn-> >
> > Or 33% more depending on how you do your math.
>
> <SNIP>
>
> OK, I will bite. How do you do the math so that it comes out at 33% more?
>
> Bob McBreen
Broken flute?
3flute should give a smooth cut More cuts per inch with 3flute
compared to 2flute
John
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 18:23:16 -0800, "Brian" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>Hey All,
>
>I'm in need of a 2" flush trim bit and have been looking at what's offered
>from Freud, Jesada, and Whiteside. Whiteside is unique in that they offer a
>2 flute and a 3 flute bit. Both are 2" carbide and 1/2" diameter. The
>offerings from Freud and Jesada are both 2 flute bits. And, of course, the
>Whiteside bit is about 50% pricier.
>
>So the question is, what benefits will I get from spending the extra cash on
>the 3 flute Whiteside bit? Less prone to chipout? Easier on the router
>(3.5HP Milwaukee)?
>
>Thanks for any input.
>
>Brian.
>
Brian,
I have bought two Whiteside bits in as many weeks. They seem to be worth
the price, based on reviews I've seen. I tossed around the price issue too,
but I like to buy once and forget it. I also got tired of going to Rockler
and Woodcraft looking for my bits. I found a place online called Ballew
Tool & Saw. They carry Whiteside among others, like Amana and CMT.
Shipping is free over $75.
As for the 3 flute versus 2, if your router is running 10,000 rpm, then
you're running 20,000 teeth/min versus 30,000 teeth/min. Smoother cut?
Nailbender
"Brian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "CobraPilot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > 50% more cuts per revolution?
> >
>
> Or 33% more depending on how you do your math. Either way, though, what
> does this translate to in real terms? Higher maximum feed rate, I
suppose.
> But that's not much of a selling point for me. What else?
>
> Brian.
>
>
"Brian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Or 33% more depending on how you do your math.
Huh? That would be a bit with 2.66 flutes. Regardless of how you do the
math 50% more is what the 3 offers over the 2. The 2 flute models are 33
1/3 % less than the 3 flute model.
Good question and oddly and totally against the way one would think, IIRC My
Amana catalog indicates that the 1 flute strait cut offers a smoother cut
over the 2 flute bits. Apparently the 1 flute removes waste more
efficiently. I suppose with 1 flute there is more mass in the bit and that
probably equates to less vibration.
"Brian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "CobraPilot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > 50% more cuts per revolution?
> >
>
> Or 33% more depending on how you do your math.
<SNIP>
OK, I will bite. How do you do the math so that it comes out at 33% more?
Bob McBreen
I like RouterBits.com for Whiteside bits. They have been very good with
both their pricing and their service so far. And yes, I also think you
should get a smoother cut. Same principle as a circular saw blade with
more teeth ...
Nail Bender wrote:
> Brian,
>
> I have bought two Whiteside bits in as many weeks. They seem to be worth
> the price, based on reviews I've seen. I tossed around the price issue too,
> but I like to buy once and forget it. I also got tired of going to Rockler
> and Woodcraft looking for my bits. I found a place online called Ballew
> Tool & Saw. They carry Whiteside among others, like Amana and CMT.
> Shipping is free over $75.
>
> As for the 3 flute versus 2, if your router is running 10,000 rpm, then
> you're running 20,000 teeth/min versus 30,000 teeth/min. Smoother cut?
>
> Nailbender
>
>
> "Brian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>"CobraPilot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>50% more cuts per revolution?
>>>
>>
>>Or 33% more depending on how you do your math. Either way, though, what
>>does this translate to in real terms? Higher maximum feed rate, I
>
> suppose.
>
>>But that's not much of a selling point for me. What else?
>>
>>Brian.
>>
>>
>
>
>
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<9S%[email protected]>...
> Good question and oddly and totally against the way one would think, IIRC My
> Amana catalog indicates that the 1 flute strait cut offers a smoother cut
> over the 2 flute bits. Apparently the 1 flute removes waste more
> efficiently. I suppose with 1 flute there is more mass in the bit and that
> probably equates to less vibration.
Hmm, I don't see a 1 flute flush bit on the Amana website. They do
offer 2, 3, and 4 flute bits though.... And of course the spiral
bits.
Brian.
"RWM" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Brian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "CobraPilot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > 50% more cuts per revolution?
> > >
> >
> > Or 33% more depending on how you do your math.
>
> <SNIP>
>
> OK, I will bite. How do you do the math so that it comes out at 33% more?
>
> Bob McBreen
My bad. I was thinking along the lines of 2 flutes being 33% less than 3.
Brian.
"Nail Bender" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> Brian,
>
> and Woodcraft looking for my bits. I found a place online called Ballew
> Tool & Saw. They carry Whiteside among others, like Amana and CMT.
www.routerbits.com for Whiteside.
Great prices, fast shipping.
Used them a dozen times and never disappointed.
50% more cuts per revolution?
"Brian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Hey All,
>
> I'm in need of a 2" flush trim bit and have been looking at what's offered
> from Freud, Jesada, and Whiteside. Whiteside is unique in that they offer
a
> 2 flute and a 3 flute bit. Both are 2" carbide and 1/2" diameter. The
> offerings from Freud and Jesada are both 2 flute bits. And, of course,
the
> Whiteside bit is about 50% pricier.
>
> So the question is, what benefits will I get from spending the extra cash
on
> the 3 flute Whiteside bit? Less prone to chipout? Easier on the router
> (3.5HP Milwaukee)?
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> Brian.
>
>