What is the proper way to trim laminates (formica) and can MDF be used with
contact cement? In my case the building supply only has 1/2" MDF not 1/2"
particle board. I need 1/2". Am I right in thinking that the edges should be
glue on first and then trimed with a straight flush cutting bit and then the
faces glued on and trimed with an angled flush cutting bit. Also can the
edge strip be heated and bent around radiused corners or should each of the
4 edges have a seperate strip? Thanks
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Did David Eisan teach you that? What ever happened to him. He used to
post lots. But he didn't use plywood for projects much. But he sure
knows about bending!
Bay Area Dave wrote:
> "virtical surfacing laminate" is the thin stuff...
>
> dave
>
> Wilson wrote:
> Bending lam is easier on thin laminate because the thicker material
>
>> cracks and breaks. good luck
>>
>
don't forget the J-roller to ensure complete contact.
dave
"Wilson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> We learned to trim laminate using a lam trimming bit on router. Yes you
can
> use MDF as the base. Apply contact cement on both the MDF and lam faces,
> wait for about 20 minutes till cement feels dry. Put edges on first using
4
> separate pieces, trim w/ bit. Put top on, trim and then file down on a
> diagonal with a bastard file or rasp smooth. We had a project that
required
> bending laminate over inside and outside curves with a heat gun. That
was
> awful. Bending lam is easier on thin laminate because the thicker
material
> cracks and breaks. good luck
>
>
>
> "habbi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > What is the proper way to trim laminates (formica) and can MDF be used
> with
> > contact cement? In my case the building supply only has 1/2" MDF not
1/2"
> > particle board. I need 1/2". Am I right in thinking that the edges
should
> be
> > glue on first and then trimed with a straight flush cutting bit and then
> the
> > faces glued on and trimed with an angled flush cutting bit. Also can the
> > edge strip be heated and bent around radiused corners or should each of
> the
> > 4 edges have a seperate strip? Thanks
> >
> >
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We learned to trim laminate using a lam trimming bit on router. Yes you can
use MDF as the base. Apply contact cement on both the MDF and lam faces,
wait for about 20 minutes till cement feels dry. Put edges on first using 4
separate pieces, trim w/ bit. Put top on, trim and then file down on a
diagonal with a bastard file or rasp smooth. We had a project that required
bending laminate over inside and outside curves with a heat gun. That was
awful. Bending lam is easier on thin laminate because the thicker material
cracks and breaks. good luck
"habbi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What is the proper way to trim laminates (formica) and can MDF be used
with
> contact cement? In my case the building supply only has 1/2" MDF not 1/2"
> particle board. I need 1/2". Am I right in thinking that the edges should
be
> glue on first and then trimed with a straight flush cutting bit and then
the
> faces glued on and trimed with an angled flush cutting bit. Also can the
> edge strip be heated and bent around radiused corners or should each of
the
> 4 edges have a seperate strip? Thanks
>
>
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Unlike wine, you DON'T get better with age.
Were I an idiot, I'd get down in the gutter with you to hurl insults.
Instead I'll move on to real woodworking related posts. Enjoy yourself.
dave
Unisaw A100 wrote:
> Bay Area Dave wrote:
>
>>I've turned over a new leaf. Under that leaf is a steely resolve to not
>>get deeply into ANY pissing contest.
>
>
> I once thought that maybe you thought the world was
> revolving around you and now I'm thinking maybe the world is
> revolving itself up your ass ever single day of your tiny
> miserable life.
>
>
>>A rose by any other name is still a rose.
>
>
> Have you checked this with rec.gardening?
>
> UA100
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
>Unisaw A100
> brought forth from the murky depths:
>
> >Bay Area Dave wrote:
> >>I've turned over a new leaf. Under that leaf is a steely resolve to not
> >>get deeply into ANY pissing contest.
> >
> >I once thought that maybe you thought the world was
> >revolving around you and now I'm thinking maybe the world is
> >revolving itself up your ass ever single day of your tiny
> >miserable life.
> Why have you (and so many others who find the guy offensive)
> failed to filter him?
Because baiting, then belittling, someone makes you feel more important in
the general scheme of things than you really are?
Not directed at you, mind you, just addressing the usual motive behind the
immature behavior that answers the question you posed.
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 01:19:08 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>I've turned over a new leaf. Under that leaf is a steely resolve to not
>get deeply into ANY pissing contest.
>
>A rose by any other name is still a rose.
"What's in a name? That which we call a rose; by any other name would
smell so sweet."
Romeo and Juliet, Wm. Shakespeare, ref. date various.
But, would it have the ability to be postformed? Would it have the
ability to resist impact? Is it available in all of the colors that
the full-spec lam is?
A rose may be thought of as a rose but yet not be the rose you want to
spec for your project.
A rose without a part number smells not so seet at all, when it comes
time to put the pen to the project and the dollars next to the pen.
"A rose is a rose is a red red rose."
But, I won't order it with that kind of spec.
I'd prefer a part number.
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker (ret)
Real Email is: tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet
Website: http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 02:22:57 GMT, Unisaw A100 <[email protected]>
brought forth from the murky depths:
>Bay Area Dave wrote:
>>I've turned over a new leaf. Under that leaf is a steely resolve to not
>>get deeply into ANY pissing contest.
>
>I once thought that maybe you thought the world was
>revolving around you and now I'm thinking maybe the world is
>revolving itself up your ass ever single day of your tiny
>miserable life.
Why have you (and so many others who find the guy offensive)
failed to filter him? He keeps drawing you and Tom in with
his shit-stirring and those of us who have filtered him
continue to see his crap (plus whatever crap you hand back
to him) when you quote him.
Please stop.
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Bay Area Dave wrote:
>I've turned over a new leaf. Under that leaf is a steely resolve to not
>get deeply into ANY pissing contest.
I once thought that maybe you thought the world was
revolving around you and now I'm thinking maybe the world is
revolving itself up your ass ever single day of your tiny
miserable life.
>A rose by any other name is still a rose.
Have you checked this with rec.gardening?
UA100
I've turned over a new leaf. Under that leaf is a steely resolve to not
get deeply into ANY pissing contest.
A rose by any other name is still a rose.
Cheers.
dave
Tom Watson wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:50:16 GMT, Unisaw A100 <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Bay Area Dave wrote:
>>
>>>I DON'T sound like a Rube; I was using a technical term. YOU, however
>>>sound like a [fill in the blank]
>>
>>Actually Dave I posted this for the others and not for you.
>>I'd hate to think the eyeballing some of our fine friends
>>here on the wreck might get when they request "vertical
>>surfacing laminate" when in the industry and at all the
>>suppliers it goes by the name Vertical Grade or in some
>>areas V32 (which is short for Vertical .32 (the thickness of
>>Vertical Grade)).
>>
>>Also, when wanting something that goes on a flat horizontal
>>surface they (the others that is/not you of course) would
>>request Standard Grade (.050). Standard Grade is falling
>>out of favor though and some suppliers don't keep it in
>>stock. Instead they are stocking Post Forming Grade (.039)
>>which holds up as well as Standard Grade but is a wee bit
>>thinner. The Post Forming Grade is handy because you can
>>choose to use it for horizontal surfaces or with a coving
>>bar. By the way Dave, ever accidently touch a coving bar?
>>I didn't think so but I will tell you, it's not something
>>you'd do twice.
>>
>>Please feel free to continue asking suppliers for things
>>using technical sounding names you've made up. They get a
>>real kick out of it. Oh, and the blank stares you get, may
>>not always be onna 'count of the guy's a few plys short of
>>being a full thickness. He may just be wondering, "Who is
>>this rube".
>>
>>UA100
>
>
>
> What always works for me is asking for,
>
> "That skinny shit that goes on the wall."
>
> But - ya know, it's Pennsyltucky I'm tawkin' bout.
>
>
>
> Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker (ret)
> Real Email is: tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet
> Website: http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1
Bay Area Dave wrote:
>I DON'T sound like a Rube; I was using a technical term. YOU, however
>sound like a [fill in the blank]
Actually Dave I posted this for the others and not for you.
I'd hate to think the eyeballing some of our fine friends
here on the wreck might get when they request "vertical
surfacing laminate" when in the industry and at all the
suppliers it goes by the name Vertical Grade or in some
areas V32 (which is short for Vertical .32 (the thickness of
Vertical Grade)).
Also, when wanting something that goes on a flat horizontal
surface they (the others that is/not you of course) would
request Standard Grade (.050). Standard Grade is falling
out of favor though and some suppliers don't keep it in
stock. Instead they are stocking Post Forming Grade (.039)
which holds up as well as Standard Grade but is a wee bit
thinner. The Post Forming Grade is handy because you can
choose to use it for horizontal surfaces or with a coving
bar. By the way Dave, ever accidently touch a coving bar?
I didn't think so but I will tell you, it's not something
you'd do twice.
Please feel free to continue asking suppliers for things
using technical sounding names you've made up. They get a
real kick out of it. Oh, and the blank stares you get, may
not always be onna 'count of the guy's a few plys short of
being a full thickness. He may just be wondering, "Who is
this rube".
UA100
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:50:16 GMT, Unisaw A100 <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Bay Area Dave wrote:
>>I DON'T sound like a Rube; I was using a technical term. YOU, however
>>sound like a [fill in the blank]
>
>Actually Dave I posted this for the others and not for you.
>I'd hate to think the eyeballing some of our fine friends
>here on the wreck might get when they request "vertical
>surfacing laminate" when in the industry and at all the
>suppliers it goes by the name Vertical Grade or in some
>areas V32 (which is short for Vertical .32 (the thickness of
>Vertical Grade)).
>
>Also, when wanting something that goes on a flat horizontal
>surface they (the others that is/not you of course) would
>request Standard Grade (.050). Standard Grade is falling
>out of favor though and some suppliers don't keep it in
>stock. Instead they are stocking Post Forming Grade (.039)
>which holds up as well as Standard Grade but is a wee bit
>thinner. The Post Forming Grade is handy because you can
>choose to use it for horizontal surfaces or with a coving
>bar. By the way Dave, ever accidently touch a coving bar?
>I didn't think so but I will tell you, it's not something
>you'd do twice.
>
>Please feel free to continue asking suppliers for things
>using technical sounding names you've made up. They get a
>real kick out of it. Oh, and the blank stares you get, may
>not always be onna 'count of the guy's a few plys short of
>being a full thickness. He may just be wondering, "Who is
>this rube".
>
>UA100
What always works for me is asking for,
"That skinny shit that goes on the wall."
But - ya know, it's Pennsyltucky I'm tawkin' bout.
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker (ret)
Real Email is: tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet
Website: http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1