New to woodworking - seeking advice

Also, any cabinets that hang, you might want to use a french cleat
system (google this group for a pic and plan). Gives a lot of
flexibility as your shop inevitably expands.

I built garage cabinets out of plywood and used 3/4 screen molding to
cover the front edges of the shelves.

On the doors I just used my router to but a roundover and bead on them.
The soak up extra varnish so they look darker than the faces of the
doors but I was happy with it.

RonT

In article <[email protected]>, Fred
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't think I was very clear on my question regarding the depth for
> the dado and rabbet cuts. The sides will be 3/4 in. plywood. How
> deep into the 3/4 in. should the rabbet and dado cuts be?. Should I
> remove 1/4 inch of material, leaving 1/2 left in the side panel?

If I'm understanding coorrectly...

1/4" back, and you're making a rabbet cut into the end of the sides.

So your cut is 1/4" deep to handle the thickness of the back panel, and
you're asking how much of the 3/4" thickness of the side panel to cut
away?

I'd take 3/8" to 1/2" depending on my mood. Taking 1/2" isn't going to
hurt.

--
"The thing about saying the wrong words is that A, I don't notice it, and B,
sometimes orange water gibbon bucket and plastic." -- Mr. Burrows

I saw a lot of other people giving advice on the cabinet construction so
I'll pipe up on the edging. If you have a decent table saw, just cut your
own edgeing about 1/8" thick and glue it on. I don't know of anything
wrong with the ironed on stuff, but it is pretty easy to just glue the
banding on as well.

Jim

"Fred" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks Ed,
> I don't think I was very clear on my question regarding the depth for
> the dado and rabbet cuts. The sides will be 3/4 in. plywood. How
> deep into the 3/4 in. should the rabbet and dado cuts be?. Should I
> remove 1/4 inch of material, leaving 1/2 left in the side panel?
>
> THanks
> Fred

I cut them half way, or in this case 3/8".

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> I'm new to woodworking and need some advice on my first real project.
> I'm building some cabinets for my garage and haven't found any good
> plans to go by so here's what I'm thinking of doing and my questions:
>
> I'm going to build the cabinets out of =3F in. birch plywood. If they
> come out nicely I'll put a finish on them, otherwise I'll just paint
> them. I want to make dado cuts in the sides for the top and bottom and
> use 1/4 plywood for the back and set it in the width of the plywood (I
> forget what you call this cut). The doors will be very simple. Just
> 3/4 inch plywood with hidden hinges. I'm going to finish the exposed
> edges with iron on veneer. Here are my questions.
>
> 1) How deep do you cut the dado for the top and botton and for the
> inset for the back panel? For that matter is it structurally sound to
> make dado cuts in plywood?
> 2) What is the best way to cut the holes to set the hidden hinges in
> the sides?
> 3) What is the best way to cover the exposed edges of the plywood.
> I've seen the iron on veneer used on a TV show but not sure if another
> solution is available.
>
> Thanks
> Fred
>
> [email protected]
>
>


1 - I cut Dad's 1/4" deep but 1/2" will work and yes, it is structurally
sound.

2 & 3 - I would go with a face frame and Blum 35mm euro hinges for face
frame cabinets.

The hinges, a convenient and inexpensive jig and special drill bit can
be found in the Rockler's on line site or catalog. If you decide to go
with the euro style, no face frame, and banding the jig to cut the 35mm
holes will still work for the doors.

Note, face frame or no face frame I'd still go with a solid wood edge
for the carcass.

Good luck.

--
Mike G.
Heirloom Woods
[email protected]
www.heirloom-woods.net

Fred wrote:
> I'm new to woodworking and need some advice on my first real project.
> I'm building some cabinets for my garage and haven't found any good
> plans to go by so here's what I'm thinking of doing and my questions:

Resources for you, check your local library:
<http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=692ryHlAz8&isbn=1558705376&itm=10>
<http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=692ryHlAz8&isbn=1558707077&itm=8>


> 1) How deep do you cut the dado for the top and botton and for the
> inset for the back panel?

I use 1/4 to 3/8" deep dadoes in 3/4" plywood. Inset the back panel so
it's flush. For example, if the back is 3/4" thick, you'd inset it 3/4"
thick.

>For that matter is it structurally sound to
> make dado cuts in plywood?

No problem!

> 2) What is the best way to cut the holes to set the hidden hinges in
> the sides?

35mm bit. Like this ->
<http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=42275&cat=1,180,42240>


> 3) What is the best way to cover the exposed edges of the plywood.

Iron on edge banding or thin strips of solid wood both work well.

Don't forget to build in hard points for hanging cabinets. You don't
want a heavily loaded cabinet hanging from a 1/4" thick back.

Barry

Thanks Barry, What's the best way for building the "hard points for
hanging the cabinets"?

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:08:39 GMT, B a r r y
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Fred wrote:
>> I'm new to woodworking and need some advice on my first real project.
>> I'm building some cabinets for my garage and haven't found any good
>> plans to go by so here's what I'm thinking of doing and my questions:
>
>Resources for you, check your local library:
><http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=692ryHlAz8&isbn=1558705376&itm=10>
><http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=692ryHlAz8&isbn=1558707077&itm=8>
>
>
>> 1) How deep do you cut the dado for the top and botton and for the
>> inset for the back panel?
>
>I use 1/4 to 3/8" deep dadoes in 3/4" plywood. Inset the back panel so
>it's flush. For example, if the back is 3/4" thick, you'd inset it 3/4"
>thick.
>
>>For that matter is it structurally sound to
>> make dado cuts in plywood?
>
>No problem!
>
>> 2) What is the best way to cut the holes to set the hidden hinges in
>> the sides?
>
>35mm bit. Like this ->
><http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=42275&cat=1,180,42240>
>
>
>> 3) What is the best way to cover the exposed edges of the plywood.
>
>Iron on edge banding or thin strips of solid wood both work well.
>
>Don't forget to build in hard points for hanging cabinets. You don't
>want a heavily loaded cabinet hanging from a 1/4" thick back.
>
>Barry

Fred wrote:
> Thanks Barry, What's the best way for building the "hard points for
> hanging the cabinets"?

As usual, there are many ways to do it, but what's worked for me are
3/4" ply or 3/4" solid wood, like oak or birch, rails 2-3" wide along
the top and bottom of the back, or a solid 3/4" ply back plate.

Danny Proulx's books are excellent for learning this type of stuff.

Barry

Thanks Ed

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:22:00 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Fred" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Thanks Ed,
>> I don't think I was very clear on my question regarding the depth for
>> the dado and rabbet cuts. The sides will be 3/4 in. plywood. How
>> deep into the 3/4 in. should the rabbet and dado cuts be?. Should I
>> remove 1/4 inch of material, leaving 1/2 left in the side panel?
>>
>> THanks
>> Fred
>
>I cut them half way, or in this case 3/8".
>

"Fred" <[email protected]> wrote in message

> use 1/4 plywood for the back and set it in the width of the plywood (I
> forget what you call this cut).

Rabbet


>
> 1) How deep do you cut the dado for the top and botton and for the
> inset for the back panel? For that matter is it structurally sound to
> make dado cuts in plywood?

If the material is 1/4", make the cut 1/4". Actually if you make the cut a
true 1/4" the plywood is about 1/32 u nder and will fit nicely.


> 2) What is the best way to cut the holes to set the hidden hinges in
> the sides?

Using the Euro style hinges? Thee is a Forstner bit made for just that.


> 3) What is the best way to cover the exposed edges of the plywood.
> I've seen the iron on veneer used on a TV show but not sure if another
> solution is available.

The veneer works pretty well. You can cut them undersize and trim with
wood, but for a garage cabinet, I'd go with the iron on.

Thanks Ed,
I don't think I was very clear on my question regarding the depth for
the dado and rabbet cuts. The sides will be 3/4 in. plywood. How
deep into the 3/4 in. should the rabbet and dado cuts be?. Should I
remove 1/4 inch of material, leaving 1/2 left in the side panel?

THanks
Fred


On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:50:49 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Fred" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>> use 1/4 plywood for the back and set it in the width of the plywood (I
>> forget what you call this cut).
>
>Rabbet
>
>
>>
>> 1) How deep do you cut the dado for the top and botton and for the
>> inset for the back panel? For that matter is it structurally sound to
>> make dado cuts in plywood?
>
>If the material is 1/4", make the cut 1/4". Actually if you make the cut a
>true 1/4" the plywood is about 1/32 u nder and will fit nicely.
>
>
>> 2) What is the best way to cut the holes to set the hidden hinges in
>> the sides?
>
>Using the Euro style hinges? Thee is a Forstner bit made for just that.
>
>
>> 3) What is the best way to cover the exposed edges of the plywood.
>> I've seen the iron on veneer used on a TV show but not sure if another
>> solution is available.
>
>The veneer works pretty well. You can cut them undersize and trim with
>wood, but for a garage cabinet, I'd go with the iron on.
>