BH

"Bestest Handsander"

28/02/2004 12:27 AM

Vacuum Clamp built into workbench?

I finally got my vacuum bag system set up (mucho thanks to
joewoodworker.com). I've done some veneering, and now I'm thinking about
making a vacuum clamp.

I had the thought that I could drill a hold through my solid maple bench top
and thread an NTP male quick release onto the bottom. Then take a piece of
MDF and drill a hole though it. Put some neoprene tape along the edges on
both sides. Then whenever I want to vacuum clamp something, I'd blow out
the hole to clear any dust/debris that might have collected, attached the
vacuum pump, put the MDF over the hole, and the piece to be sanded/routed on
top of the MDF. Then turn the pump on (the pump is 3cfm continuous duty
rated).

Am I missing something? Ideally I'd have a foot switch to release the
vacuum pressure, but as far as I can tell it should work. Thoughts?




This topic has 5 replies

DC

"David Chamberlain"

in reply to "Bestest Handsander" on 28/02/2004 12:27 AM

28/02/2004 10:04 PM

MDF works just fine if you finish it. I used spray lacquer on mine. I drew
a vacuum last Saturday and the piece is still locked down as tight as can
be. Based on my experience, you should incorporate some type of release
valve. I will probably re-design mine so that the vacuum that holds the mdf
to the bench and the vvacuum that holds the workpiece are two separate
lines.


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> Don't use MDF - it's much too leaky. Instead make your block of
> UHMWPE (ultra high molecular weight polyethylene). It's available
> from most woodworking ssources. It's not cheap but it /works/.

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to "Bestest Handsander" on 28/02/2004 12:27 AM

28/02/2004 10:47 PM

David Chamberlain wrote:

> MDF works just fine if you finish it. I used spray lacquer on
> mine. I drew a vacuum last Saturday and the piece is still
> locked down as tight as can be. Based on my experience, you
> should incorporate some type of release valve. I will
> probably re-design mine so that the vacuum that holds the mdf
> to the bench and the vvacuum that holds the workpiece are two
> separate lines.

The two-line approach sounds good. I think I might have to build
a few more 'pucks' to play with. I normally use multiple pucks to
hold a workpiece; and for production runs have had to make a mask
of 1/8" hardboard with cutouts for the pucks to keep them from
shifting when the workpiece is removed. A second line would make
that unnecessary - but would double the amount of tubing in the
work area; and would require a second vacuum source.

I started out with UHMWPE and have never had a problem; but know
a number of people who've used MDF and seen poor-to-terrible
performance. I suspect that they just didn't seal the MDF as
thoroughly as you did.

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Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA

jJ

[email protected] (Joe Wilding)

in reply to "Bestest Handsander" on 28/02/2004 12:27 AM

28/02/2004 9:26 AM

It sounds like this would work great. You could make various sized
pieces of MDF for clamping various sized boards.

Joe in Denver
My woodworking website:
www.the-wildings.com/shop/


"Bestest Handsander" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I finally got my vacuum bag system set up (mucho thanks to
> joewoodworker.com). I've done some veneering, and now I'm thinking about
> making a vacuum clamp.
>
> I had the thought that I could drill a hold through my solid maple bench top
> and thread an NTP male quick release onto the bottom. Then take a piece of
> MDF and drill a hole though it. Put some neoprene tape along the edges on
> both sides. Then whenever I want to vacuum clamp something, I'd blow out
> the hole to clear any dust/debris that might have collected, attached the
> vacuum pump, put the MDF over the hole, and the piece to be sanded/routed on
> top of the MDF. Then turn the pump on (the pump is 3cfm continuous duty
> rated).
>
> Am I missing something? Ideally I'd have a foot switch to release the
> vacuum pressure, but as far as I can tell it should work. Thoughts?

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to "Bestest Handsander" on 28/02/2004 12:27 AM

28/02/2004 11:49 AM

>Am I missing something? Ideally I'd have a foot switch to release the
>vacuum pressure, but as far as I can tell it should work. Thoughts?

This is exactly what we had set up once upon a time for
routing with a hand held router. Your thinking is flawless.

UA100

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to "Bestest Handsander" on 28/02/2004 12:27 AM

28/02/2004 11:31 AM

Bestest Handsander wrote:

> I had the thought that I could drill a hold through my solid
> maple bench top and thread an NTP male quick release onto the
> bottom. Then take a piece of MDF and drill a hole though it.
> Put some neoprene tape along the edges on both sides. Then
> whenever I want to vacuum clamp something, I'd blow out the
> hole to clear any dust/debris that might have collected,
> attached the vacuum pump, put the MDF over the hole, and the
> piece to be sanded/routed on top of the MDF. Then turn the
> pump on (the pump is 3cfm continuous duty rated).
>
> Am I missing something? Ideally I'd have a foot switch to
> release the vacuum pressure, but as far as I can tell it
> should work. Thoughts?

Don't use MDF - it's much too leaky. Instead make your block of
UHMWPE (ultra high molecular weight polyethylene). It's available
from most woodworking ssources. It's not cheap but it /works/.

You don't need to drill your workbench to do this. I have a web
page at http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/assembly.html that describes
how to build the kind of clamp you're describing.

BTW, I use an old recycled refrigerator compressor to provide the
vacuum for my CNC router. It works /well/ (and the price was right!)

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA


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