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"Highland Pairos"

16/02/2004 4:59 PM

Newbie glueing question

If I recall correctly from reading this group for a while, glueing long
grain to long grain creates a very stong glue joint. If I am correct in my
recollection, then glueing two 2x4's face to face should create a pretty
strong piece. I want to cut half laps in a pair of 2x4's and glue them
together making a mortice rather then trying to chop it out of a 4x4. Is my
memory correct or am I headed for a disaster?

I plan to tenon the aprons and stretchers to go into the resulting mortices.
I want to then use them as legs for a work bench. This will just be a bench
to get me going as I get my new shop setup.

Thanks,

SteveP


This topic has 7 replies

Rn

"Rob-J"

in reply to "Highland Pairos" on 16/02/2004 4:59 PM

16/02/2004 11:09 AM

This would make a strong joint. Use a good quality glue (possibly gorilla
glue). If you use gorilla glue, buy a small bottle since the shelf life is
short. Plus, make sure you read and follow the directions. If you use it
wrong the glue is worthless, better of using maple syrup.

"Highland Pairos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If I recall correctly from reading this group for a while, glueing long
> grain to long grain creates a very stong glue joint. If I am correct in
my
> recollection, then glueing two 2x4's face to face should create a pretty
> strong piece. I want to cut half laps in a pair of 2x4's and glue them
> together making a mortice rather then trying to chop it out of a 4x4. Is
my
> memory correct or am I headed for a disaster?
>
> I plan to tenon the aprons and stretchers to go into the resulting
mortices.
> I want to then use them as legs for a work bench. This will just be a
bench
> to get me going as I get my new shop setup.
>
> Thanks,
>
> SteveP
>
>

SP

"Steven P"

in reply to "Highland Pairos" on 16/02/2004 4:59 PM

19/02/2004 10:09 AM

Thanks to everyone for your answers. I was pretty confident that I had it
right. I just didn't want to find out otherwise in the middle of a project
when the whole thing collapsed on me.

Thanks again,
SteveP

"Highland Pairos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If I recall correctly from reading this group for a while, glueing long
> grain to long grain creates a very stong glue joint. If I am correct in
my
> recollection, then glueing two 2x4's face to face should create a pretty
> strong piece. I want to cut half laps in a pair of 2x4's and glue them
> together making a mortice rather then trying to chop it out of a 4x4. Is
my
> memory correct or am I headed for a disaster?
>
> I plan to tenon the aprons and stretchers to go into the resulting
mortices.
> I want to then use them as legs for a work bench. This will just be a
bench
> to get me going as I get my new shop setup.
>
> Thanks,
>
> SteveP
>
>

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Highland Pairos" on 16/02/2004 4:59 PM

16/02/2004 5:05 PM

Almost any surface that you use EXCEPT the end grain will be a good glue
surface.
But, if you run the grains at a 90 degree direction to each other the bond
will eventually fail because with climate changes the wood will expand and
contract in different directions. If you are going to half lap these boards
using half laps at 90 degrees to each other I would also add screws.

"Highland Pairos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If I recall correctly from reading this group for a while, glueing long
> grain to long grain creates a very stong glue joint. If I am correct in
my
> recollection, then glueing two 2x4's face to face should create a pretty
> strong piece. I want to cut half laps in a pair of 2x4's and glue them
> together making a mortice rather then trying to chop it out of a 4x4. Is
my
> memory correct or am I headed for a disaster?
>
> I plan to tenon the aprons and stretchers to go into the resulting
mortices.
> I want to then use them as legs for a work bench. This will just be a
bench
> to get me going as I get my new shop setup.
>
> Thanks,
>
> SteveP
>
>

JM

John McCoy

in reply to "Highland Pairos" on 16/02/2004 4:59 PM

16/02/2004 6:26 PM

"Highland Pairos" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> If I recall correctly from reading this group for a while, glueing
> long grain to long grain creates a very stong glue joint. If I am
> correct in my recollection, then glueing two 2x4's face to face should
> create a pretty strong piece. I want to cut half laps in a pair of
> 2x4's and glue them together making a mortice rather then trying to
> chop it out of a 4x4. Is my memory correct or am I headed for a
> disaster?

Cutting "half mortices" (really they'd be wide dados) into two
planks and glueing them face to face is a common practice, and
works well. Plain old yellow glue will be fine (unless you're
going to leave this outside, in which case you'll want epoxy).
You will need a bunch of clamps, tho - if these are 4' long
pieces, you'd need at least 5 clamps and likely more.

John

Bn

Bridger

in reply to "Highland Pairos" on 16/02/2004 4:59 PM

16/02/2004 11:15 AM

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 16:59:55 GMT, "Highland Pairos"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>If I recall correctly from reading this group for a while, glueing long
>grain to long grain creates a very stong glue joint. If I am correct in my
>recollection, then glueing two 2x4's face to face should create a pretty
>strong piece. I want to cut half laps in a pair of 2x4's and glue them
>together making a mortice rather then trying to chop it out of a 4x4. Is my
>memory correct or am I headed for a disaster?
>
>I plan to tenon the aprons and stretchers to go into the resulting mortices.
>I want to then use them as legs for a work bench. This will just be a bench
>to get me going as I get my new shop setup.
>
>Thanks,
>
>SteveP
>


no problem with this plan.

note that glue only has strength when the mating surfaces fit together
well. if you have a way to do so, go ahead and flatten the faces of
the 2x4s before glueup and use plenty of clamps to keep them tight
while the glue dries.

LG

"Leslie G"

in reply to "Highland Pairos" on 16/02/2004 4:59 PM

16/02/2004 5:12 PM

Thats exactly how I made my bench. Strong as a boulder and weighs about as
much!

Leslie

--
She's got tools, and she knows how to use them.
The legs aren't too bad either!


"Highland Pairos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If I recall correctly from reading this group for a while, glueing long
> grain to long grain creates a very stong glue joint. If I am correct in
my
> recollection, then glueing two 2x4's face to face should create a pretty
> strong piece. I want to cut half laps in a pair of 2x4's and glue them
> together making a mortice rather then trying to chop it out of a 4x4. Is
my
> memory correct or am I headed for a disaster?
>
> I plan to tenon the aprons and stretchers to go into the resulting
mortices.
> I want to then use them as legs for a work bench. This will just be a
bench
> to get me going as I get my new shop setup.
>
> Thanks,
>
> SteveP
>
>

JC

John Crea

in reply to "Highland Pairos" on 16/02/2004 4:59 PM

16/02/2004 3:33 PM

Yep, that would be pretty strong joint, and what I did many years ago
when I first built a workbench for the garage. Still standing and
still solid as a rock. Of course, I also reinforced with carriage
bolts

Go for it, it will work

John

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 16:59:55 GMT, "Highland Pairos"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>If I recall correctly from reading this group for a while, glueing long
>grain to long grain creates a very stong glue joint. If I am correct in my
>recollection, then glueing two 2x4's face to face should create a pretty
>strong piece. I want to cut half laps in a pair of 2x4's and glue them
>together making a mortice rather then trying to chop it out of a 4x4. Is my
>memory correct or am I headed for a disaster?
>
>I plan to tenon the aprons and stretchers to go into the resulting mortices.
>I want to then use them as legs for a work bench. This will just be a bench
>to get me going as I get my new shop setup.
>
>Thanks,
>
>SteveP
>


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