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"RickS"

31/05/2004 5:31 PM

Drywall on the Table Saw

Would anyone consider cutting drywall/sheetrock on their table saw?
Of course this presupposes using the worst blade in the arsenal, and a large
enough infeed/outfeed/rip capacity to do so.

Or is this just the stupidest idea you have ever heard (lately)?

/rick.


This topic has 36 replies

Tt

Trent©

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

01/06/2004 11:04 PM

On 01 Jun 2004 02:57:22 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:

> No dust to get into the tablesaw and ruin it.

Everybody says this...but I don't think there's any more risk than
with saw dust.


Have a nice week...

Trent©

Dyslexics of the world ... UNTIE !

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

01/06/2004 2:57 AM

RickS writes:

>Would anyone consider cutting drywall/sheetrock on their table saw?
>Of course this presupposes using the worst blade in the arsenal, and a large
>enough infeed/outfeed/rip capacity to do so.

I don't understand why you would want to. A utility knife with a straightedge
for a guide does a fast, neat job with almost no effort. Score and snap. No
dust.

Running it through a table saw means horsing the sheet onto the saw and guiding
it, while with the utility knife, you get it on your sawhorse/2x4 stand and
move the knife. Much easier. No dust to get into the tablesaw and ruin it.

Charlie Self
"The test and the use of man's education is that he finds pleasure in the
exercise of his mind." Jacques Barzun


bB

[email protected] (BUB 209)

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

01/06/2004 11:53 AM

Those small Stanley Surform (or generic,
cabbage shredder type) planes are
good for beveling drywall edges, as long
as you don't have to do it to 100 sheets.

Tt

Trent©

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

01/06/2004 10:55 PM

On Mon, 31 May 2004 20:24:26 -0400, Mike Patterson
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Mon, 31 May 2004 17:31:13 -0400, "RickS" <rick --dot-- s --at--
>comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Would anyone consider cutting drywall/sheetrock on their table saw?
>>Of course this presupposes using the worst blade in the arsenal, and a large
>>enough infeed/outfeed/rip capacity to do so.
>>
>>Or is this just the stupidest idea you have ever heard (lately)?
>>
>>/rick.
>>
>
>byyye byyye bearings...

Aren't bearings sealed?


Have a nice week...

Trent©

Dyslexics of the world ... UNTIE !

RR

RB

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

01/06/2004 9:40 AM

It's hard to imagine how nitrocellulose or the solvent its in would
degrade. I have a couple of gallons that are at least 10 years old and
they are still fine.

RB

Jeffrey Thunder wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Unisaw A100 <[email protected]> writes:
>
>>>Or is this just the stupidest idea you have ever heard (lately)?
>>
>>Yes.
>>
>>Hey! You asked.
>>
>>UA100
>
>
> But couldn't you mix the gypsum dust with drool and snot to make
> a good adhesive for Corian?
>
> OBWW (Well, kind of): I have at least 1/2 a gallon of n.c. lacquer
> which was openned awhile ago, where "awhile" means somewhere between
> one and two years. Should I even entertain the idea it may still be
> good, or just dispose of it? (If so, how?)
>
>

Nn

Nova

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

01/06/2004 6:07 PM

Rudy wrote:

> > So thanks everyone, for allowing me to avoid the School of Hard Knocks.
>
> Another reason, the drywall dust will stick to the "pork chop" sawdust on
> the trunnion/motor that got there when you sliced up that whole pork loin
> last week. Should have used the mitersaw for that.
> R

I thought everybody knew you use a radial arm saw for pork?

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
(Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)

RR

RB

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

02/06/2004 9:00 AM

This is a good way to destroy a table saw. Why not use a utility knife
and a straight edge?

RB

RickS wrote:
> Would anyone consider cutting drywall/sheetrock on their table saw?
> Of course this presupposes using the worst blade in the arsenal, and a large
> enough infeed/outfeed/rip capacity to do so.
>
> Or is this just the stupidest idea you have ever heard (lately)?
>
> /rick.
>
>

Ji

"John, in MN"

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

31/05/2004 4:40 PM

On Mon, 31 May 2004 17:31:13 -0400, "RickS" <rick --dot-- s --at--
comcast.net> wrote:

>Would anyone consider cutting drywall/sheetrock on their table saw?
>Of course this presupposes using the worst blade in the arsenal, and a large
>enough infeed/outfeed/rip capacity to do so.
>
>Or is this just the stupidest idea you have ever heard (lately)?
>
>/rick.
>
Never used a table saw, but tried it with a skilsaw and a straight
edge once. Needed a good clean angle cut. Worked great.
One downside was the dust is still probally in the air. This was
about 5 years ago.

--
John, in Minnesota

xD

[email protected] (Dave Mundt)

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

02/06/2004 5:03 PM

Greetings and Salutations...

On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 09:15:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 31 May 2004 17:31:13 -0400, "RickS" <rick --dot-- s --at--
>comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Would anyone consider cutting drywall/sheetrock on their table saw?
>>Of course this presupposes using the worst blade in the arsenal, and a large
>>enough infeed/outfeed/rip capacity to do so.
>>
>>Or is this just the stupidest idea you have ever heard (lately)?
>YES!!
>>try using a box cutter, or spiral saw I have no idea what advantage you gain by trying to cut it on a table saw?
>Try using your circular saw on it and report to the group how that
>goes!!!
>
>>/rick.
>>
>
It is a bad idea. Once, quite some years ago,
I cut some blueboard on the tablesaw for a friend. She had
this idea that it would make a good board for pins, etc.
It worked ok, as she got it set up, but, luckily, it was
an old, crappy carbide blade I put on the saw, because
it DID chip several teeth.
Cut really nice, though.
If I were to do it again, I would do it the
smart (usual) way -Score with a knife, break, and smooth
with a surform plane.
Even the concrete-based blueboard produced a lot of
nasty, abrasive, irritating dust.
Regards
Dave Mundt

Tt

Trent©

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

01/06/2004 11:03 PM

On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 02:53:20 GMT, "Gary" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"RickS" <rick --dot-- s --at-- comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Would anyone consider cutting drywall/sheetrock on their table saw?
>> Of course this presupposes using the worst blade in the arsenal, and a
>large
>> enough infeed/outfeed/rip capacity to do so.
>>
>> Or is this just the stupidest idea you have ever heard (lately)?
>>
>> /rick.
>>
>>
>
>I don't think using a table saw would be wise, but did discover recently
>that a cheap jig saw is handy for cutting out holes for electrical outlets
>and for irregular edges.
>
>Gary
>

Spiral saw is best.


Have a nice week...

Trent©

Dyslexics of the world ... UNTIE !

Gg

"Gary"

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

01/06/2004 2:53 AM


"RickS" <rick --dot-- s --at-- comcast.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Would anyone consider cutting drywall/sheetrock on their table saw?
> Of course this presupposes using the worst blade in the arsenal, and a
large
> enough infeed/outfeed/rip capacity to do so.
>
> Or is this just the stupidest idea you have ever heard (lately)?
>
> /rick.
>
>

I don't think using a table saw would be wise, but did discover recently
that a cheap jig saw is handy for cutting out holes for electrical outlets
and for irregular edges.

Gary

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

31/05/2004 9:52 PM


"RickS" <rick --dot-- s --at-- comcast.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Would anyone consider cutting drywall/sheetrock on their table saw?
> Of course this presupposes using the worst blade in the arsenal, and a
large
> enough infeed/outfeed/rip capacity to do so.
>
> Or is this just the stupidest idea you have ever heard (lately)?
>
> /rick.


The blade would be the least of your worries.

Cut the sheetrock with a utility knife, bend and break the sheetrock along
that cut line and then cut the paper from the back side along the fold.

Vv

VRadin

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

01/06/2004 12:27 AM

In article <[email protected]>, "RickS" <rick --dot-- s
--at-- comcast.net> says...
> Would anyone consider cutting drywall/sheetrock on their table saw?
> Of course this presupposes using the worst blade in the arsenal, and a large
> enough infeed/outfeed/rip capacity to do so.
>
> Or is this just the stupidest idea you have ever heard (lately)?
>
> /rick.

Don't listen to dem other guys. Go ahead and use yer bestest tablesaur
and a nice blade to precision cut the drywall. It'll be okey-doke just
as soon as the dust settles (3 or 4 months), and you'll get a brand-
spankin new replacement saw from the deal too.

And don't forget to say "hi" to the pulmonologist and respiratory
therapist.

/vic

lL

[email protected] (Lawrence Wasserman)

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

01/06/2004 1:17 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
RickS <rick --dot-- s --at-- comcast.net> wrote:
>Would anyone consider cutting drywall/sheetrock on their table saw?
>Of course this presupposes using the worst blade in the arsenal, and a large
>enough infeed/outfeed/rip capacity to do so.
>
>Or is this just the stupidest idea you have ever heard (lately)?
>
>/rick.
>
>

Sounds reasonable to me. Just lower the TS blade all the way,
remove the fence, guard & splitter, lay the drywall down on the tablesaw,
and cut it with a utility knife like everyone else does.


--

Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]

ML

"Mark L."

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

31/05/2004 10:13 PM

I tried cutting sheetrock with a saw once, never again. Damn dust was
EVERYWHERE. Utility knives work much better and just as
accurate. Mark L.

RickS wrote:

> Would anyone consider cutting drywall/sheetrock on their table saw?
> Of course this presupposes using the worst blade in the arsenal, and a large
> enough infeed/outfeed/rip capacity to do so.
>
> Or is this just the stupidest idea you have ever heard (lately)?
>
> /rick.
>
>

Rr

"RickS"

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

31/05/2004 9:55 PM

<snip unanimous replies, confirming the stupidest idea ever>

I know I asked.... but.... alright, already!

I've done enough drywalling recently to do the score, bend, cut routine in
my sleep (almost literally). But when one has a table saw, just beconing to
Vrroooom right through it all without so much as getting on your hands and
knees, well....

But alas, I suppose in life there are too many things that becon, only to
learn that they really are Just Not A Good Idea.

So thanks everyone, for allowing me to avoid the School of Hard Knocks.

/rick.

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

01/06/2004 2:50 AM



"Jeffrey Thunder" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> OBWW (Well, kind of): I have at least 1/2 a gallon of n.c. lacquer
> which was openned awhile ago, where "awhile" means somewhere between
> one and two years. Should I even entertain the idea it may still be
> good, or just dispose of it? (If so, how?)
>

Just sell it to some of the huffers in the neighborhood.

KH

"Kentucky Highlander"

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

31/05/2004 8:00 PM

If your going to cut much of it get one of those large T-Squares made by
Johnson they make it much easier. As for the saw don't, I get enough dust up
my nose with the utility knife method.

KY
"RickS" <rick --dot-- s --at-- comcast.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Would anyone consider cutting drywall/sheetrock on their table saw?
> Of course this presupposes using the worst blade in the arsenal, and a
large
> enough infeed/outfeed/rip capacity to do so.
>
> Or is this just the stupidest idea you have ever heard (lately)?
>
> /rick.
>
>

DV

Dave Van Vugt

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

01/06/2004 5:26 AM

LMAO... you got me there, good thing I didn't have a mouthful of
anything... "pork chop sawdust"... heheh.

Dave

"Rudy" <[email protected]> wrote in news:l2Uuc.637793$Ig.395226
@pd7tw2no:

>> So thanks everyone, for allowing me to avoid the School of Hard Knocks.
>
> Another reason, the drywall dust will stick to the "pork chop" sawdust on
> the trunnion/motor that got there when you sliced up that whole pork loin
> last week. Should have used the mitersaw for that.
> R
>
>

VD

"Victor De Long"

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

23/06/2004 5:09 PM

I've used a jig saw a number of times for outlets or for tricky cuts, and
almost always been happy. At my wife's behest (to shut her up) I used a
Dremel last time I drywalled (the only tool she brought to the marriage, so
naturally the tool she thinks is best for every freaking job) and it did
seem to be the best tool for the job. That is, if the job that you're doing
involves carefully placing the Dremel spiral cutting blade in the hole then
randomly cutting nonlinear slices in wholly arbitrary spots on the drywall.


"RB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This is a good way to destroy a table saw. Why not use a utility knife
> and a straight edge?
>
> RB
>
> RickS wrote:
> > Would anyone consider cutting drywall/sheetrock on their table saw?
> > Of course this presupposes using the worst blade in the arsenal, and a
large
> > enough infeed/outfeed/rip capacity to do so.
> >
> > Or is this just the stupidest idea you have ever heard (lately)?
> >
> > /rick.
> >
> >
>

jJ

[email protected] (Jeffrey Thunder)

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

01/06/2004 12:10 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Unisaw A100 <[email protected]> writes:
>>Or is this just the stupidest idea you have ever heard (lately)?
>
> Yes.
>
> Hey! You asked.
>
> UA100

But couldn't you mix the gypsum dust with drool and snot to make
a good adhesive for Corian?

OBWW (Well, kind of): I have at least 1/2 a gallon of n.c. lacquer
which was openned awhile ago, where "awhile" means somewhere between
one and two years. Should I even entertain the idea it may still be
good, or just dispose of it? (If so, how?)


--
Jeff Thunder, one-upping RickS
Dept. of Mathematical Sciences
Northern Illinois Univ.
jthunder at math dot niu dot edu

MP

Mike Patterson

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

31/05/2004 8:24 PM

On Mon, 31 May 2004 17:31:13 -0400, "RickS" <rick --dot-- s --at--
comcast.net> wrote:

>Would anyone consider cutting drywall/sheetrock on their table saw?
>Of course this presupposes using the worst blade in the arsenal, and a large
>enough infeed/outfeed/rip capacity to do so.
>
>Or is this just the stupidest idea you have ever heard (lately)?
>
>/rick.
>

byyye byyye bearings...
Super-fine, very abrasive dust that gets -everywhere-.
I destroyed a nice Shop Vac this way.

Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
"I always wanted to be somebody. I should have been more specific..."

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

31/05/2004 6:58 PM


"RickS" <rick --dot-- s --at-- comcast.net> wrote in message
> Would anyone consider cutting drywall/sheetrock on their table saw?
> Of course this presupposes using the worst blade in the arsenal, and a
large
> enough infeed/outfeed/rip capacity to do so.
>
> Or is this just the stupidest idea you have ever heard (lately)?

Pretty damn close. There is absolutely no need for that type of precision
when cutting/installing sheetrock ... use a utility knife and "let the
mudman fix it".

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 5/15/04

WS

Wes Stewart

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

01/06/2004 7:39 AM

On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 04:58:57 GMT, "Rudy" <[email protected]>
wrote:

|> So thanks everyone, for allowing me to avoid the School of Hard Knocks.
|
|Another reason, the drywall dust will stick to the "pork chop" sawdust on
|the trunnion/motor that got there when you sliced up that whole pork loin
|last week. Should have used the mitersaw for that.


Come on, everybody knows you use the bandsaw for that.

Tt

Trent©

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

01/06/2004 11:02 PM

On Mon, 31 May 2004 21:55:06 -0400, "RickS" <rick --dot-- s --at--
comcast.net> wrote:

><snip unanimous replies, confirming the stupidest idea ever>
>
>I know I asked.... but.... alright, already!
>
>I've done enough drywalling recently to do the score, bend, cut routine in
>my sleep (almost literally). But when one has a table saw, just beconing to
>Vrroooom right through it all without so much as getting on your hands and
>knees, well....
>
>But alas, I suppose in life there are too many things that becon, only to
>learn that they really are Just Not A Good Idea.
>
>So thanks everyone, for allowing me to avoid the School of Hard Knocks.
>
>/rick.
>

CUTTING it wouldn't be the bad idea, IMHO. You could use a good
planeing blade...and I don't think the dust would be
unbearable...although I'd definitely wear a dust mask (most folks
should anyway...but don't).

But the HANDLING would be the bad idea. Yer always starting with
4x8...which crack easily if you don't have the proper support. But
the time you set up all the equipment, you can just as easily knife it
on the floor...or cut it with a sabre saw on some horses.

I think you'd have more chance of damaging the cuts with a table
saw...than cutting it or sabreing it.


Have a nice week...

Trent©

Dyslexics of the world ... UNTIE !

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

01/06/2004 5:52 PM

Nova wrote:
>I thought everybody knew you use a radial arm saw for pork?


My Dad always cut frozen sausage on the band saw.

UA100

Aw

"ATP"

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

01/06/2004 11:30 PM

Charlie Self wrote:
> RickS writes:
>
>> Would anyone consider cutting drywall/sheetrock on their table saw?
>> Of course this presupposes using the worst blade in the arsenal, and
>> a large enough infeed/outfeed/rip capacity to do so.
>
> I don't understand why you would want to. A utility knife with a
> straightedge for a guide does a fast, neat job with almost no effort.
> Score and snap. No dust.
>
> Running it through a table saw means horsing the sheet onto the saw
> and guiding it, while with the utility knife, you get it on your
> sawhorse/2x4 stand and move the knife. Much easier. No dust to get
> into the tablesaw and ruin it.
>
Most any basic cut can be made with the sheetrock leaning against the wall,
although some intricate or precise cuts might benefit from setting the rock
up on a stand. That type of fine tuning is usually done on the wall, though.
Same with cutouts for boxes. On another note, some amateurs try to save
L-shaped pieces of rock, which is almost always a waste, the savings in time
by making full-width cuts offsets the slight increase in material used.

BR

Bill Rogers

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

02/06/2004 5:57 PM

On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 17:03:36 GMT, [email protected] (Dave Mundt) wrote:

> If I were to do it again, I would do it the
>smart (usual) way -Score with a knife, break, and smooth
>with a surform plane.

Why are people even discussing this? You are not a serious woodworker
if you'd abuse your tools this way. Also, you aren't a plasterer.
The plasterer is the one who covers over a multitude of errors. You
simply don't have to cut drywall to fit. Smooth with a plane ?????
You score, break, then cut the paper with the same blade. Period.

I imagine the next question will be should I stop the saw before I
change the blade.

Bill.

RN

"Rudy"

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

01/06/2004 4:58 AM

> So thanks everyone, for allowing me to avoid the School of Hard Knocks.

Another reason, the drywall dust will stick to the "pork chop" sawdust on
the trunnion/motor that got there when you sliced up that whole pork loin
last week. Should have used the mitersaw for that.
R

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

31/05/2004 8:12 PM

Jeffrey Thunder wrote:
>But couldn't you mix the gypsum dust with drool and snot to make
>a good adhesive for Corian?

I don't think DuPont would approve.

>OBWW (Well, kind of): I have at least 1/2 a gallon of n.c. lacquer
>which was openned awhile ago, where "awhile" means somewhere between
>one and two years. Should I even entertain the idea it may still be
>good, or just dispose of it? (If so, how?)

I would use it as a fire starter (in the fall) for all those
pesky leaves we suburbanites have to be raking up.

Just be sure to cover your eye brows.

UA100

m

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

02/06/2004 9:15 AM

On Mon, 31 May 2004 17:31:13 -0400, "RickS" <rick --dot-- s --at--
comcast.net> wrote:

>Would anyone consider cutting drywall/sheetrock on their table saw?
>Of course this presupposes using the worst blade in the arsenal, and a large
>enough infeed/outfeed/rip capacity to do so.
>
>Or is this just the stupidest idea you have ever heard (lately)?
YES!!
>try using a box cutter, or spiral saw I have no idea what advantage you gain by trying to cut it on a table saw?
Try using your circular saw on it and report to the group how that
goes!!!

>/rick.
>

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

31/05/2004 11:49 PM

>Or is this just the stupidest idea you have ever heard (lately)?


Yes.

Hey! You asked.

UA100

Tt

Trent©

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

01/06/2004 10:51 PM

On Mon, 31 May 2004 17:31:13 -0400, "RickS" <rick --dot-- s --at--
comcast.net> wrote:

>Would anyone consider cutting drywall/sheetrock on their table saw?
>Of course this presupposes using the worst blade in the arsenal, and a large
>enough infeed/outfeed/rip capacity to do so.
>
>Or is this just the stupidest idea you have ever heard (lately)?
>
>/rick.
>

Maybe not the stupidest...but pretty darn close! lol


Have a nice week...

Trent©

Dyslexics of the world ... UNTIE !

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

31/05/2004 8:37 PM

On 1 Jun 2004 00:10:35 GMT, [email protected] (Jeffrey Thunder)
wrote:


>But couldn't you mix the gypsum dust with drool and snot to make
>a good adhesive for Corian?

Only if'n yer taking crystal meth that ain't made by Dupont...or,
something like that...




Regards,
Tom.

Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1

An

"AL"

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

31/05/2004 9:42 PM

Drywall dust is highly abrasive and will destroy your saw's motor, bears,
arbor, etc. It will also produce lots of dust which, over time, will
destroy the rest of your tools.

Cutting drywall by hand is easy. Just score both paper sides with a utility
knife, and then snap off the section. Changed blades often.

"RickS" <rick --dot-- s --at-- comcast.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Would anyone consider cutting drywall/sheetrock on their table saw?
> Of course this presupposes using the worst blade in the arsenal, and a
large
> enough infeed/outfeed/rip capacity to do so.
>
> Or is this just the stupidest idea you have ever heard (lately)?
>
> /rick.
>
>

BR

Bill Rogers

in reply to "RickS" on 31/05/2004 5:31 PM

31/05/2004 8:05 PM

On Mon, 31 May 2004 17:31:13 -0400, "RickS" <rick --dot-- s --at--
comcast.net> wrote:

>Or is this just the stupidest idea you have ever heard (lately)?

Yes; not lately ...ever.

Bill.


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