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Sam Shank

12/12/2003 2:40 PM

building cyclone - impeller & motor questions

I've been reading
http://cnets.net/~eclectic/woodworking/cyclone/CyclonePlan.cfm

and plan on making my own cyclone and blower.

My questions are for anyone who has actually done this.

In the process of deciding which combination of impeller and motor to
use, there are several factors. Price and ease of assembley probable
being the two most important.

I would like to use the less expensive 14" Jet DC1900 impeller. I can't
find exact specs, though, on it's arbor. I've read that it's metric, and
won't exactly fit any motor easily.

I am interrested in the Leeson 5HP motor. It has a 5/8" arbor. Exactly
how are the 2 mated together? I really don't want to monkey around with
this too much. I'd rather not have alternate arbors machined, etc. Is
there an easy solution?

Thanks for any advice, Sam

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This topic has 4 replies

CE

Clarke Echols

in reply to Sam Shank on 12/12/2003 2:40 PM

12/12/2003 4:38 PM

The Leeson 5-HP motor has a C-face mounting and a 7/8" shaft, not a
5/8" as you stated. The impeller from Sheldon's Engineering that
is on the same site as you cite (no pun intended :-) ) costs about $160
delivered, depending on destination and has a 7/8" keyed shaft that
mates well with the motor.

The Jet impeller needs a new hub. You can use a weld-in hub but need
a skilled welder who can keep the hub true and centered while welding
(there is a small difference in diamter between the hole in the Jet
impeller's backplate and the 2.00" diameter of the weld-in hub). I
supply a weldable hub as well as a split-tapered bushing for the Jet
for $45 (no shipping charge if ordered with a blower housing) or $60
if ordered separately, including shipping (and you still have to weld
it in. You're way ahead to use the Sheldon's impeller and forget the
Jet because you'll have a lot less hassle getting it together.

The housing I produce is all steel and described on Pentz's site. The
kit has a LOT of work into it and is a better choice if you're looking
for a good result without punishing yourself. No sane person would
want to do the layout work necessary nor can you do the precision cutting
in the cyclone kit with hand tools. Even experienced HVAC guys ask why
a sane person would attempt to cut and assemble from flat sheet when the
kit has so many convenient advantages.

See http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?threadid=5220

and http://cnets.net/~eclectic/woodworking/cyclone/ClarkesKits.cfm

Clarke

Sam Shank wrote:
>
> I've been reading
> http://cnets.net/~eclectic/woodworking/cyclone/CyclonePlan.cfm
>
> and plan on making my own cyclone and blower.
>
> My questions are for anyone who has actually done this.
>
> In the process of deciding which combination of impeller and motor to
> use, there are several factors. Price and ease of assembley probable
> being the two most important.
>
> I would like to use the less expensive 14" Jet DC1900 impeller. I can't
> find exact specs, though, on it's arbor. I've read that it's metric, and
> won't exactly fit any motor easily.
>
> I am interrested in the Leeson 5HP motor. It has a 5/8" arbor. Exactly
> how are the 2 mated together? I really don't want to monkey around with
> this too much. I'd rather not have alternate arbors machined, etc. Is
> there an easy solution?
>
> Thanks for any advice, Sam
>
> --
> please remove @com.com and change att and dott to @ and .
>
> Thanks, Sam (trying to minimize spam)

JS

"John Sellers"

in reply to Sam Shank on 12/12/2003 2:40 PM

12/12/2003 7:59 PM

I mean INSTRUCTIONS - whoops.

"John Sellers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I just received one of Clarke's kits. I'll back up his statement
> about the amount of work that's been done to produce them. Mine is
> still partially in the packaging (nice stuff job, BTW), but the
pieces
> I've removed are fabricated with precision. And the assembly
> intructions are detailed to a gnat's hair.
>

JS

"John Sellers"

in reply to Sam Shank on 12/12/2003 2:40 PM

12/12/2003 7:50 PM

I just received one of Clarke's kits. I'll back up his statement
about the amount of work that's been done to produce them. Mine is
still partially in the packaging (nice stuff job, BTW), but the pieces
I've removed are fabricated with precision. And the assembly
intructions are detailed to a gnat's hair.

I'm planning to use all the recommendations made by Clarke Echols and
Bill Pentz with my DC system.

John Sellers


"Clarke Echols" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The Leeson 5-HP motor has a C-face mounting and a 7/8" shaft, not a
> 5/8" as you stated. The impeller from Sheldon's Engineering that
> is on the same site as you cite (no pun intended :-) ) costs about
$160
> delivered, depending on destination and has a 7/8" keyed shaft that
> mates well with the motor.
>
> The Jet impeller needs a new hub. You can use a weld-in hub but
need
> a skilled welder who can keep the hub true and centered while
welding
> (there is a small difference in diamter between the hole in the Jet
> impeller's backplate and the 2.00" diameter of the weld-in hub). I
> supply a weldable hub as well as a split-tapered bushing for the Jet
> for $45 (no shipping charge if ordered with a blower housing) or $60
> if ordered separately, including shipping (and you still have to
weld
> it in. You're way ahead to use the Sheldon's impeller and forget
the
> Jet because you'll have a lot less hassle getting it together.
>
> The housing I produce is all steel and described on Pentz's site.
The
> kit has a LOT of work into it and is a better choice if you're
looking
> for a good result without punishing yourself. No sane person would
> want to do the layout work necessary nor can you do the precision
cutting
> in the cyclone kit with hand tools. Even experienced HVAC guys ask
why
> a sane person would attempt to cut and assemble from flat sheet when
the
> kit has so many convenient advantages.
>
> See http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?threadid=5220
>
> and http://cnets.net/~eclectic/woodworking/cyclone/ClarkesKits.cfm
>
> Clarke
>
> Sam Shank wrote:
> >
> > I've been reading
> > http://cnets.net/~eclectic/woodworking/cyclone/CyclonePlan.cfm
> >
> > and plan on making my own cyclone and blower.
> >
> > My questions are for anyone who has actually done this.
> >
> > In the process of deciding which combination of impeller and motor
to
> > use, there are several factors. Price and ease of assembley
probable
> > being the two most important.
> >
> > I would like to use the less expensive 14" Jet DC1900 impeller. I
can't
> > find exact specs, though, on it's arbor. I've read that it's
metric, and
> > won't exactly fit any motor easily.
> >
> > I am interrested in the Leeson 5HP motor. It has a 5/8" arbor.
Exactly
> > how are the 2 mated together? I really don't want to monkey around
with
> > this too much. I'd rather not have alternate arbors machined, etc.
Is
> > there an easy solution?
> >
> > Thanks for any advice, Sam
> >
> > --
> > please remove @com.com and change att and dott to @ and .
> >
> > Thanks, Sam (trying to minimize spam)

MJ

"Mark Jerde"

in reply to Sam Shank on 12/12/2003 2:40 PM

12/12/2003 9:19 PM

Sam Shank wrote:
> I've been reading
> http://cnets.net/~eclectic/woodworking/cyclone/CyclonePlan.cfm
>
> and plan on making my own cyclone and blower.
>
<snip>
> Thanks for any advice, Sam

Just to make sure you've seen it... There's more information on the Kits
page.
http://cnets.net/~eclectic/woodworking/cyclone/ClarkesKits.cfm

Scroll down to the Impeller Hubs paragraph. HTH.

-- Mark


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