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"Tod Weber"

24/05/2004 4:45 PM

Help with Jointer

I am trying to joint some 72" long Ash planks. I have a 6" Craftsman jointer
(their benchtop model). I have jointed short pieces of hardwood, but these
longer pieces are not working out so well. In fact I have ruined a very nice
piece of wood.

Can someone explain the best way of jointing these longer boards to me?
Buying a larger jointer is not an option at this point and I really want to
use this beautiful Ash wood.

Thanks,

--
Tod E Weber


This topic has 11 replies

DW

Doug Winterburn

in reply to "Tod Weber" on 24/05/2004 4:45 PM

24/05/2004 9:56 PM

On Mon, 24 May 2004 16:45:31 -0500, Tod Weber wrote:

> I am trying to joint some 72" long Ash planks. I have a 6" Craftsman
> jointer (their benchtop model). I have jointed short pieces of hardwood,
> but these longer pieces are not working out so well. In fact I have ruined
> a very nice piece of wood.
>
> Can someone explain the best way of jointing these longer boards to me?
> Buying a larger jointer is not an option at this point and I really want
> to use this beautiful Ash wood.

Assuming you really need your final pieces to be nearly 72" long and you
are jointing for glueup and not flattening, a router with a straight bit
run between the two pieces to be glued up will produce a perfect glue
joint. Of course, you must clamp the two pieces to scrap so that they
are about 1/8" to 1/4" less apart than the router bit width at the
widest gap and use a straight edge clamped to the whole mess to guide the
router so that 1/16" to 1/8" will be taken from each edge in one pass.

If your final dimensions are much less than 72", rough cut the work
slightly longer than the final dimension before jointing.

-Doug

"A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support
of Paul." - George Bernard Shaw

Gg

"George"

in reply to "Tod Weber" on 24/05/2004 4:45 PM

24/05/2004 6:04 PM

1) Sight the edge to be joined and determine high spots.

2) Remove high spots to approximate straight edge. I prefer to take the
concave edge, remove the ends by straddling the knives near the middle, then
joining out both ends. You can do convex edges, too, but they demand a bit
of forbearance, You take short passes JUST over the middle, lifting before
the ends.

3) Join the full edge.

"Tod Weber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am trying to joint some 72" long Ash planks. I have a 6" Craftsman
jointer
> (their benchtop model). I have jointed short pieces of hardwood, but these
> longer pieces are not working out so well. In fact I have ruined a very
nice
> piece of wood.
>
> Can someone explain the best way of jointing these longer boards to me?
> Buying a larger jointer is not an option at this point and I really want
to
> use this beautiful Ash wood.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Tod E Weber
>
>

Gg

"George"

in reply to "Tod Weber" on 24/05/2004 4:45 PM

25/05/2004 9:33 AM

With a "bed" length of 24" ?

Work a bit on theory, and you can pick up the practice on the jointer.

"Mike G" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> First, it isn't going to happen on a bench top jointer unless you get
> extremely lucky. So forget that. Rule of thumb for length of stock is 1
1/2
> times the length of the bed.
>
> The best way to accomplish the job if you do not have a jointer with
> sufficient bed length is to use a hand plane.

Ba

B a r r y

in reply to "Tod Weber" on 24/05/2004 4:45 PM

25/05/2004 8:15 PM

On Tue, 25 May 2004 13:17:12 GMT, "John" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> >I also have a toy jointer. No way it will ever do 72".
>>
>> I've done this many a time on a 4' long, 6" jointer.
>>
>Good for you. If he had a 4' long jointer, he wouldn't need to ask advice.
>

How short is this thing? By 4', I mean total, not each bed.

I thought I did provide some advice.

Barry

TW

"Tod Weber"

in reply to "Tod Weber" on 24/05/2004 4:45 PM

25/05/2004 9:17 AM

Thanks for the help everyone.

Tod E Weber

"Tod Weber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am trying to joint some 72" long Ash planks. I have a 6" Craftsman
jointer
> (their benchtop model). I have jointed short pieces of hardwood, but these
> longer pieces are not working out so well. In fact I have ruined a very
nice
> piece of wood.
>
> Can someone explain the best way of jointing these longer boards to me?
> Buying a larger jointer is not an option at this point and I really want
to
> use this beautiful Ash wood.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Tod E Weber
>
>

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "Tod Weber" on 24/05/2004 4:45 PM

25/05/2004 8:20 PM

B a r r y wrote:

> On Tue, 25 May 2004 13:17:12 GMT, "John" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> >I also have a toy jointer. No way it will ever do 72".
>>>
>>> I've done this many a time on a 4' long, 6" jointer.
>>>
>>Good for you. If he had a 4' long jointer, he wouldn't need to ask
>>advice.
>>
>
> How short is this thing? By 4', I mean total, not each bed.
>
> I thought I did provide some advice.

I believe the OP said he had a Craftsman benchtop model. If it's the one
I'm thinking of it's even shorter than the Delta J160, which is 30"
overall.
>
> Barry

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Ba

B a r r y

in reply to "Tod Weber" on 24/05/2004 4:45 PM

25/05/2004 9:40 AM

On Tue, 25 May 2004 00:04:40 GMT, "John" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Tod Weber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I am trying to joint some 72" long Ash planks. I have a 6" Craftsman
>jointer
>> (their benchtop model).
>
>I also have a toy jointer. No way it will ever do 72".

I've done this many a time on a 4' long, 6" jointer.

Use some sort of support at each end, like a roller stand. Remove the
obvious high parts from either the convex or concave end by jointing
only those areas, with the jointer or a hand plane. The last step is
to joint the whole board.

Be very careful attempting to rip a curved board on the tablesaw. As
different parts of the board touch the fence, ugly things can happen,
in a hurry.

Barry

MG

"Mike G"

in reply to "Tod Weber" on 24/05/2004 4:45 PM

25/05/2004 2:27 PM

Ok, what ever the hell that means.

--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"George" <george@least> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> With a "bed" length of 24" ?
>
> Work a bit on theory, and you can pick up the practice on the jointer.
>
> "Mike G" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > First, it isn't going to happen on a bench top jointer unless you get
> > extremely lucky. So forget that. Rule of thumb for length of stock is 1
> 1/2
> > times the length of the bed.
> >
> > The best way to accomplish the job if you do not have a jointer with
> > sufficient bed length is to use a hand plane.
>
>

JJ

"John"

in reply to "Tod Weber" on 24/05/2004 4:45 PM

25/05/2004 12:04 AM


"Tod Weber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am trying to joint some 72" long Ash planks. I have a 6" Craftsman
jointer
> (their benchtop model).

I also have a toy jointer. No way it will ever do 72".
What I have done successfully with 50" (never tried longer) is to rip a
edge, and then run it on the jointer set to 1/32nd. It works fine, assuming
you have a table saw that cuts straight.

JJ

"John"

in reply to "Tod Weber" on 24/05/2004 4:45 PM

25/05/2004 1:17 PM

> >I also have a toy jointer. No way it will ever do 72".
>
> I've done this many a time on a 4' long, 6" jointer.
>
Good for you. If he had a 4' long jointer, he wouldn't need to ask advice.

MG

"Mike G"

in reply to "Tod Weber" on 24/05/2004 4:45 PM

24/05/2004 7:22 PM

First, it isn't going to happen on a bench top jointer unless you get
extremely lucky. So forget that. Rule of thumb for length of stock is 1 1/2
times the length of the bed.

The best way to accomplish the job if you do not have a jointer with
sufficient bed length is to use a hand plane.

--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Tod Weber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am trying to joint some 72" long Ash planks. I have a 6" Craftsman
jointer
> (their benchtop model). I have jointed short pieces of hardwood, but these
> longer pieces are not working out so well. In fact I have ruined a very
nice
> piece of wood.
>
> Can someone explain the best way of jointing these longer boards to me?
> Buying a larger jointer is not an option at this point and I really want
to
> use this beautiful Ash wood.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Tod E Weber
>
>


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