I need to get a new screwmachine,I`m sick to death of the makita as it
constantly jams up and I lose more screws than I use! My local supplier
has just got milwaukee tools in stock and I`m tempted by the dwse 4000mq
but I think you amercans are getting your revenge on us for exporting
festool to the states the prices are frightening here in Holland.anyway
I`d be interested to hear what the general concensus is over milwaukee
for quality/price
Regards
Russell
What's a screwmachine?
SH
"Russell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I need to get a new screwmachine,I`m sick to death of the makita as it
> constantly jams up and I lose more screws than I use! My local supplier
> has just got milwaukee tools in stock and I`m tempted by the dwse 4000mq
> but I think you amercans are getting your revenge on us for exporting
> festool to the states the prices are frightening here in Holland.anyway
> I`d be interested to hear what the general concensus is over milwaukee
> for quality/price
> Regards
> Russell
"Russell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I need to get a new screwmachine,I`m sick to death of the makita as it
> constantly jams up and I lose more screws than I use! My local supplier
> has just got milwaukee tools in stock and I`m tempted by the dwse 4000mq
> but I think you amercans are getting your revenge on us for exporting
> festool to the states the prices are frightening here in Holland.anyway
> I`d be interested to hear what the general concensus is over milwaukee
> for quality/price
> Regards
> Russell
You may well find the same tool in Eupope branded as Atlas Copco - it's
certainly true of the drill/drivers.
AC stuck with the industrial tools whereas AEG are often the same tool in
looks but lacking the guts of AC/Milwaukee.
I've got two AC tools at the moment - a small 9.6v cordless that is doing
sterling service, and a BXPL100 or whatever jigsaw, which is a lovely tool.
My local shop (here in the UK) have just started selling the Milwaukee
brand, and that's gradually pushing the AC stuff out - I'm assured that it's
every bit as robust.
I'd go with one.
--
Richard Sampson
email me at
richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 18:59:50 -0000, Russell <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I need to get a new screwmachine,I`m sick to death of the makita as it
>constantly jams up and I lose more screws than I use! My local supplier
>has just got milwaukee tools in stock and I`m tempted by the dwse 4000mq
>but I think you amercans are getting your revenge on us for exporting
>festool to the states the prices are frightening here in Holland.anyway
>I`d be interested to hear what the general concensus is over milwaukee
>for quality/price
>Regards
>Russell
I bought several Milwaukee tools for our Community Theater workshop a
couple of years ago and they are holding up very well under some
pretty intense use by a lot of different people: Super Sawzall (with
orbital action), Router, Hammer Drill, circular saw and panel saw. All
run smoothly and I'm very happy with them.
Bill
Ja hoor, ik heb en Milwaukee Sawzall 11amp en Circular Saw, en ik hou
van beiden. Vergelijkend met Festool: dezelfde qualiteit, maar nog
sterker en langdurende.
't spijt me voor mijn verschrijkelike Nederlands (vorall spelling),
het is nou 20+ jaar geleden sinds ik daar ben geweest.
H.
Russell <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I need to get a new screwmachine,I`m sick to death of the makita as it
> constantly jams up and I lose more screws than I use! My local supplier
> has just got milwaukee tools in stock and I`m tempted by the dwse 4000mq
> but I think you amercans are getting your revenge on us for exporting
> festool to the states the prices are frightening here in Holland.anyway
> I`d be interested to hear what the general concensus is over milwaukee
> for quality/price
> Regards
> Russell
Ha! Took a minute, but finally I remembered hearing that a lot, 20
years ago. Thanks for the replay,
H.
Jay Pique <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Smaklich aten damas en herren, applesin pairin.
>
> [email protected] (Hylourgos) wrote:
>
> >Ja hoor, ik heb en Milwaukee Sawzall 11amp en Circular Saw, en ik hou
> >van beiden. Vergelijkend met Festool: dezelfde qualiteit, maar nog
> >sterker en langdurende.
> >
> >'t spijt me voor mijn verschrijkelike Nederlands (vorall spelling),
> >het is nou 20+ jaar geleden sinds ik daar ben geweest.
> >
> >H.
> >
> >
> >Russell <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> >> I need to get a new screwmachine,I`m sick to death of the makita as it
> >> constantly jams up and I lose more screws than I use! My local supplier
> >> has just got milwaukee tools in stock and I`m tempted by the dwse 4000mq
> >> but I think you amercans are getting your revenge on us for exporting
> >> festool to the states the prices are frightening here in Holland.anyway
> >> I`d be interested to hear what the general concensus is over milwaukee
> >> for quality/price
> >> Regards
> >> Russell
They were GREAT tools (a few people here can probably attest to getting
bloody noses from the right angle drill that refused to stop after the drill
bit bound up... the handle would come and smack you for being so stupid).
Then the German connection came and AEG converted them to their "budget"
line hoping to sell their own as premium. They were real crap for a few
years (thinking late 90's period). That didn't last too long and from what
I see know I think they are again top of the line.
Already having the various Milwaukee Sawzalls, cordless drills and other
WMD's I bought a Milwaukee screw gun several years ago just to have a
dedicated screwgun on the bench and not have to change back and forth with
drill bits. It has served me well for bench work and also screwed down a
couple of decks but is in its final hours...most likely the deck work did it
in and it's my fault...time to buy another.
"Russell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <orb%[email protected]>, [email protected]
> says...
> > Don't let the name fool you. The last Milwaukee tool I used had "Made in
> > Germany" marked on it.
> > "Russell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I need to get a new screwmachine,I`m sick to death of the makita as it
> > > constantly jams up and I lose more screws than I use! My local
supplier
> > > has just got milwaukee tools in stock and I`m tempted by the dwse
4000mq
> > > but I think you amercans are getting your revenge on us for exporting
> > > festool to the states the prices are frightening here in
Holland.anyway
> > > I`d be interested to hear what the general concensus is over milwaukee
> > > for quality/price
> > > Regards
> > > Russell
> >
> >
> >
> AEG/Atlas Copco of course.Ok I`ll buy it
Hosenscheisser!
On 2/25/04 8:34 PM, in article
[email protected], "Hylourgos"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Ja hoor, ik heb en Milwaukee Sawzall 11amp en Circular Saw, en ik hou
> van beiden. Vergelijkend met Festool: dezelfde qualiteit, maar nog
> sterker en langdurende.
>
> 't spijt me voor mijn verschrijkelike Nederlands (vorall spelling),
> het is nou 20+ jaar geleden sinds ik daar ben geweest.
>
> H.
>
>
> Russell <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>> I need to get a new screwmachine,I`m sick to death of the makita as it
>> constantly jams up and I lose more screws than I use! My local supplier
>> has just got milwaukee tools in stock and I`m tempted by the dwse 4000mq
>> but I think you amercans are getting your revenge on us for exporting
>> festool to the states the prices are frightening here in Holland.anyway
>> I`d be interested to hear what the general concensus is over milwaukee
>> for quality/price
>> Regards
>> Russell
"Russell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> has just got milwaukee tools in stock and I`m tempted by the dwse 4000mq
> but I think you amercans are getting your revenge on us for exporting
> festool to the states the prices are frightening here in Holland.anyway
> I`d be interested to hear what the general concensus is over milwaukee
I bought a Milwaukee corded drill/hammer 15 years ago and it's operated
flawlessly ever since. The construction is solid and I was impressed enough
with it that a few years later I bought one of their 12v cordless drills
with a pair of batteries. The batteries have since died and been rebuilt and
the cordless drill is back in full functional condition. The next time I
need some type of hand power tool, I'm certainly going to see what Milwaukee
has to offer. So far to date, I can't say a bad thing about them and that's
good in my books.
In article <pr6%[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> well, they make a heck of great recip saw. I've got a Sawzall and like
> it except it doesn't have the orbital action like the newer one. OTOH,
> I love my 4 Makita cordless tools. what is a "screwmachine"?
>
> dave
>
> Russell wrote:
>
> > I need to get a new screwmachine,I`m sick to death of the makita as it
> > constantly jams up and I lose more screws than I use! My local supplier
> > has just got milwaukee tools in stock and I`m tempted by the dwse 4000mq
> > but I think you amercans are getting your revenge on us for exporting
> > festool to the states the prices are frightening here in Holland.anyway
> > I`d be interested to hear what the general concensus is over milwaukee
> > for quality/price
> > Regards
> > Russell
>
>
lol ,yep I`ve been in the Netherlands tooooo long,screwmachine is a
direct translation from schroefautomaat.
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 18:59:50 -0000, Russell <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >I need to get a new screwmachine,I`m sick to death of the makita as it
> >constantly jams up and I lose more screws than I use! My local supplier
> >has just got milwaukee tools in stock and I`m tempted by the dwse 4000mq
> >but I think you amercans are getting your revenge on us for exporting
> >festool to the states the prices are frightening here in Holland.anyway
> >I`d be interested to hear what the general concensus is over milwaukee
> >for quality/price
> >Regards
> >Russell
>
>
>
> milwaukee is at the high end here (AZ, USA) in both price and quality
> too. I like mine, and would rate the quality up with the best I've
> used. I can't compare milwaukee to festo, not having used any festo
> stuff, but I have a fein multimaster and I'd say the production
> standards are similar.
>
> consider availability of parts and service when making your decision.
>
I think that Milwaukee are committed to getting their product into
europe the have put together a nice site in different languages so I
reckon they mean to go on.The dealer has a lot of tools in stock,it
seems the mother company is atlas copco which is pretty big here as
well.He had some Flex machines as well some really bizzare drywall
sanderwhich I might give a try.
In article <orb%[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> Don't let the name fool you. The last Milwaukee tool I used had "Made in
> Germany" marked on it.
> "Russell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I need to get a new screwmachine,I`m sick to death of the makita as it
> > constantly jams up and I lose more screws than I use! My local supplier
> > has just got milwaukee tools in stock and I`m tempted by the dwse 4000mq
> > but I think you amercans are getting your revenge on us for exporting
> > festool to the states the prices are frightening here in Holland.anyway
> > I`d be interested to hear what the general concensus is over milwaukee
> > for quality/price
> > Regards
> > Russell
>
>
>
AEG/Atlas Copco of course.Ok I`ll buy it
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Ja hoor, ik heb en Milwaukee Sawzall 11amp en Circular Saw, en ik hou
> van beiden. Vergelijkend met Festool: dezelfde qualiteit, maar nog
> sterker en langdurende.
>
> 't spijt me voor mijn verschrijkelike Nederlands (vorall spelling),
> het is nou 20+ jaar geleden sinds ik daar ben geweest.
>
> H.
>
>
> Russell <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > I need to get a new screwmachine,I`m sick to death of the makita as it
> > constantly jams up and I lose more screws than I use! My local supplier
> > has just got milwaukee tools in stock and I`m tempted by the dwse 4000mq
> > but I think you amercans are getting your revenge on us for exporting
> > festool to the states the prices are frightening here in Holland.anyway
> > I`d be interested to hear what the general concensus is over milwaukee
> > for quality/price
> > Regards
> > Russell
>
excuse the dutch here guys
ik ben zelf engels maar ik woon ook al 12 jaar in nederland.ik heb
dezelfde probleem met mijn taal,het verwaterd ove de jaren.Ik heb nog
steeds moete om in het nederlands te schriven maar het gaat over
communicatie.
Im going to invest in both the machines and schould it turn out to be
dissapointing then its a lesson learned,I dont think I will be though
they seem a lot better built than some of the other dedicated machines
that I have had in my hands,and the only alternative for real heavey
duty is pneumatic tools duofast and the likes of......so Ill let you
know what the europeans think when I get it.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Smaklich aten damas en herren, applesin pairin.
>
> [email protected] (Hylourgos) wrote:
>
> >Ja hoor, ik heb en Milwaukee Sawzall 11amp en Circular Saw, en ik hou
> >van beiden. Vergelijkend met Festool: dezelfde qualiteit, maar nog
> >sterker en langdurende.
> >
> >'t spijt me voor mijn verschrijkelike Nederlands (vorall spelling),
> >het is nou 20+ jaar geleden sinds ik daar ben geweest.
> >
> >H.
> >
> >
> >Russell <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> >> I need to get a new screwmachine,I`m sick to death of the makita as it
> >> constantly jams up and I lose more screws than I use! My local supplier
> >> has just got milwaukee tools in stock and I`m tempted by the dwse 4000mq
> >> but I think you amercans are getting your revenge on us for exporting
> >> festool to the states the prices are frightening here in Holland.anyway
> >> I`d be interested to hear what the general concensus is over milwaukee
> >> for quality/price
> >> Regards
> >> Russell
>
>
ROFL .....goed geprobeerd,does everyone here speak dutch....even if it
is phronetic
>
> You may well find the same tool in Eupope branded as Atlas Copco - it's
> certainly true of the drill/drivers.
>
> AC stuck with the industrial tools whereas AEG are often the same tool in
> looks but lacking the guts of AC/Milwaukee.
>
> I've got two AC tools at the moment - a small 9.6v cordless that is doing
> sterling service, and a BXPL100 or whatever jigsaw, which is a lovely tool.
>
> My local shop (here in the UK) have just started selling the Milwaukee
> brand, and that's gradually pushing the AC stuff out - I'm assured that it's
> every bit as robust.
>
> I'd go with one.
>
>
>
> --
> Richard Sampson
>
> email me at
> richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk
Yep,your right.I may have started a war here in europe for AC,remember
the volkswagen/volvo price fixing where they got large fines Milwaukee
are trying that in Holland as well.The dealers arent allowed to discount
but the price difference for the machine I want is enormous,in Holland
1069.81eur in England 748.00eur plus they`ll give me another 22eur of if
I collect.I phoned AC and asked what was going on where they refused to
comment and said they would call me back tomorrow.Needless to say I
ordered in England.typical kraut tactics nothing changes
Nothing much wrong with Milwaukee. They build tough tools. Most of them
are heavier than some of the others cos. because they pride themselves on
industrializing the parts (heavy cases, iron instead of aluminum, etc.) I've
seen them take a beating. Sawzalls, "Hogs", and Hammerdrills are some of
the best out there.
--
Young Carpenter
"Violin playing and Woodworking are similar, it takes plenty of money,
plenty of practice, and you usually make way more noise than intended"
{Put the fiddler back "on" the roof to reply}
--
"Russell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I need to get a new screwmachine,I`m sick to death of the makita as it
> constantly jams up and I lose more screws than I use! My local supplier
> has just got milwaukee tools in stock and I`m tempted by the dwse 4000mq
> but I think you amercans are getting your revenge on us for exporting
> festool to the states the prices are frightening here in Holland.anyway
> I`d be interested to hear what the general concensus is over milwaukee
> for quality/price
> Regards
> Russell
Being from near Milwaukee I am probably biased towards them as being the
best. I just don't care for how they located the forward reverse switch on
the screwguns but I deal with it... From a construction point of view
jobsite to jobsite I see them everywhere and they are considered to be top
dog here in Wisconsin.
EJ
"Russell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I need to get a new screwmachine,I`m sick to death of the makita as it
> constantly jams up and I lose more screws than I use! My local supplier
> has just got milwaukee tools in stock and I`m tempted by the dwse 4000mq
> but I think you amercans are getting your revenge on us for exporting
> festool to the states the prices are frightening here in Holland.anyway
> I`d be interested to hear what the general concensus is over milwaukee
> for quality/price
> Regards
> Russell
Smaklich aten damas en herren, applesin pairin.
[email protected] (Hylourgos) wrote:
>Ja hoor, ik heb en Milwaukee Sawzall 11amp en Circular Saw, en ik hou
>van beiden. Vergelijkend met Festool: dezelfde qualiteit, maar nog
>sterker en langdurende.
>
>'t spijt me voor mijn verschrijkelike Nederlands (vorall spelling),
>het is nou 20+ jaar geleden sinds ik daar ben geweest.
>
>H.
>
>
>Russell <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> I need to get a new screwmachine,I`m sick to death of the makita as it
>> constantly jams up and I lose more screws than I use! My local supplier
>> has just got milwaukee tools in stock and I`m tempted by the dwse 4000mq
>> but I think you amercans are getting your revenge on us for exporting
>> festool to the states the prices are frightening here in Holland.anyway
>> I`d be interested to hear what the general concensus is over milwaukee
>> for quality/price
>> Regards
>> Russell
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> I need to get a new screwmachine,I`m sick to death of the makita as it
> constantly jams up and I lose more screws than I use! My local supplier
> has just got milwaukee tools in stock and I`m tempted by the dwse 4000mq
> but I think you amercans are getting your revenge on us for exporting
> festool to the states the prices are frightening here in Holland.anyway
> I`d be interested to hear what the general concensus is over milwaukee
> for quality/price
> Regards
> Russell
>
Recently replaced my 14.4 v Porter Cable drill with a 14.4 v Milwaukee
when the batteries on the PC were going out and replacing was only
slightly more expensive than new batteries. Comparing the two, the
Milwaukee is definitely better built and more solid. It is also heavier
however -- that's either a good thing or a bad thing; in my case, my
elbow definitely feels the additional weight.
I have used many tools in the construction trade and the Milwaukee power
tools always seem to be smoother running and better balanced. If I had my
choice I would pick up the Milwaukee tool every time.
William Lee
"Russell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I need to get a new screwmachine,I`m sick to death of the makita as it
> constantly jams up and I lose more screws than I use! My local supplier
> has just got milwaukee tools in stock and I`m tempted by the dwse 4000mq
> but I think you amercans are getting your revenge on us for exporting
> festool to the states the prices are frightening here in Holland.anyway
> I`d be interested to hear what the general concensus is over milwaukee
> for quality/price
> Regards
> Russell
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 18:59:50 -0000, Russell <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I need to get a new screwmachine,I`m sick to death of the makita as it
>constantly jams up and I lose more screws than I use! My local supplier
>has just got milwaukee tools in stock and I`m tempted by the dwse 4000mq
>but I think you amercans are getting your revenge on us for exporting
>festool to the states the prices are frightening here in Holland.anyway
>I`d be interested to hear what the general concensus is over milwaukee
>for quality/price
>Regards
>Russell
============================
I love Milwaukee tools... ..heck even have, and use, some that were
purchased by my dad .. (I am 60 he passed away at 86)..they look like
hell but function perfectly...
BUT the only cordless Milwaukee tool I own is a 14.4 V Drill that is
at least 6 years old... and it is used almost every day.. only problem
with it is the plastic body...have broken it twice dropping the drill
off a roof etc...not a big deal since a new body only costs about 8
bucks... bough 2 the last time...just to have a spare ..
Good, reliable tools...
Bob Griffiths
Don't let the name fool you. The last Milwaukee tool I used had "Made in
Germany" marked on it.
"Russell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I need to get a new screwmachine,I`m sick to death of the makita as it
> constantly jams up and I lose more screws than I use! My local supplier
> has just got milwaukee tools in stock and I`m tempted by the dwse 4000mq
> but I think you amercans are getting your revenge on us for exporting
> festool to the states the prices are frightening here in Holland.anyway
> I`d be interested to hear what the general concensus is over milwaukee
> for quality/price
> Regards
> Russell
well, they make a heck of great recip saw. I've got a Sawzall and like
it except it doesn't have the orbital action like the newer one. OTOH,
I love my 4 Makita cordless tools. what is a "screwmachine"?
dave
Russell wrote:
> I need to get a new screwmachine,I`m sick to death of the makita as it
> constantly jams up and I lose more screws than I use! My local supplier
> has just got milwaukee tools in stock and I`m tempted by the dwse 4000mq
> but I think you amercans are getting your revenge on us for exporting
> festool to the states the prices are frightening here in Holland.anyway
> I`d be interested to hear what the general concensus is over milwaukee
> for quality/price
> Regards
> Russell
>well, they make a heck of great recip saw. I've got a Sawzall and like
>it except it doesn't have the orbital action like the newer one. OTOH,
>I love my 4 Makita cordless tools. what is a "screwmachine"?
>
>dave
Commonly known as a screwgun or drywall screwdriver. It's a depth-adjustable
high-speed power screwdriver. The trades seem to use mainly DeWalt and
Milwaukee screwguns.
I have a Super Sawzall (without the orbital action) and I love it. Only brand
with a counterweight.
GTO(John)
On 25 Feb 2004 19:51:10 GMT, [email protected] (GTO69RA4) wrote:
>>well, they make a heck of great recip saw. I've got a Sawzall and like
>>it except it doesn't have the orbital action like the newer one. OTOH,
>>I love my 4 Makita cordless tools. what is a "screwmachine"?
>>
>>dave
>
>Commonly known as a screwgun or drywall screwdriver. It's a depth-adjustable
>high-speed power screwdriver.
Nope. He posted a picture of it over on WoodCentral. It's one of those
screwguns (sort of like you say) but it is self loading from a
collated strip of screws.
- -
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
I stand corrected. Suppose I was reaching for the more probable answer. I think
these things are called auto-feeding screwguns or deck screwdrivers. Don' t
have any personal experience with that type.
GTO(John)
>Nope. He posted a picture of it over on WoodCentral. It's one of those
>screwguns (sort of like you say) but it is self loading from a
>collated strip of screws.
>
>
>- -
>LRod
>
>Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
>
>Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
>
>http://www.woodbutcher.net
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 18:59:50 -0000, Russell <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I need to get a new screwmachine,I`m sick to death of the makita as it
>constantly jams up and I lose more screws than I use! My local supplier
>has just got milwaukee tools in stock and I`m tempted by the dwse 4000mq
>but I think you amercans are getting your revenge on us for exporting
>festool to the states the prices are frightening here in Holland.anyway
>I`d be interested to hear what the general concensus is over milwaukee
>for quality/price
>Regards
>Russell
milwaukee is at the high end here (AZ, USA) in both price and quality
too. I like mine, and would rate the quality up with the best I've
used. I can't compare milwaukee to festo, not having used any festo
stuff, but I have a fein multimaster and I'd say the production
standards are similar.
consider availability of parts and service when making your decision.