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"Bob Abbott"

17/10/2008 1:27 PM

Recommendations for newsgroups access or woodworking sites

I have read and posted on rec.woodworking and
alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking (and other groups)for about 10 years.
These groups have been very helpful for the hobbiest woodworker to see other
peoples work, to post my work, and to ask questions regarding techniques,
etc. Unfortunately Comcast is now ending it's access to newsgroups in a
week or so, so I am looking for help regarding my options:
1. Are there any recommendations for woodworking web sites that provide
similar postings of technical questions and posting of project pictures? I
looked on line but haven't found anything equivalent.
2. Any recommendations regarding free or very cheap access to newsgroups?

Quick replys are appreciated as I will be cut off soon.

Thanks, I hate to give up on breadth of information available on these
sites.
Bob
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Chris

in reply to "Bob Abbott" on 17/10/2008 1:27 PM

26/10/2008 1:30 PM

Jack Stein wrote:
> A Lurker wrote:
>
>> I'll let this post be my swan song. My Comcast Service stops tomorrow.
>
> I've been using Motzarella for my text groups but today is the 25th and
> comcast still has not notified me they are dropping newsgroups? I'm
> posting this via comcast so if you are reading it, then comcast is still
> as of 10:00 a.m 0n 10/25/2007 still carrying newsgroups, and binary ones
> as well.
>
> Perhaps today is the last day? Still, I wonder why they haven't
> notified me yet?
>
> I might add that Motzarella has worked flawlessly for me so far for text
> stuff and there has been no discernible difference from Giganews and
> Motzarella.
I use http://www.news.astraweb.com/ and have had no problems. The prices seem fair.

Chris

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Dave Balderstone

in reply to "Bob Abbott" on 17/10/2008 1:27 PM

17/10/2008 3:12 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Bob Abbott
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I have read and posted on rec.woodworking and
> alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking (and other groups)for about 10 years.
> These groups have been very helpful for the hobbiest woodworker to see other
> peoples work, to post my work, and to ask questions regarding techniques,
> etc. Unfortunately Comcast is now ending it's access to newsgroups in a
> week or so, so I am looking for help regarding my options:
> 1. Are there any recommendations for woodworking web sites that provide
> similar postings of technical questions and posting of project pictures? I
> looked on line but haven't found anything equivalent.
> 2. Any recommendations regarding free or very cheap access to newsgroups?
>
> Quick replys are appreciated as I will be cut off soon.
>
> Thanks, I hate to give up on breadth of information available on these
> sites.
> Bob

Bob,

See the thread "newsgroup vs comcast" in this group (abpw) for more
info. It started on Oct 7.

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"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "Bob Abbott" on 17/10/2008 1:27 PM

19/10/2008 12:44 PM


"Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> "Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>
>>> That's good advice, but the retention on binary groups may not allow
>>> one to go back very far at all. So, just to start this all up anew,
>>> here would be my recommendation:
>>
>> Why? He's asking a question about providers, which really has nothing
>> to do with binary retention. To start this anew only makes yet
>> another thread on the same thing that is actively being discussed.
>>
> Huh? Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I thought the question was because
> Comcast is going to stop offering newsgroups, how the OP could stay "in
> the
> loop". Since this was posted in a binary group with likely low retention,
> I just made a short recommendation. OP can take it from there.
>

Argh! I see. I did not notice the post to the binaries group as well as
the regular group. My bad. I thought he was asking about the regular
group. All the same - there have been quite a few discussions on this very
thing over the past couple of months, in a regular manner. All the OP had
to do was read the newsgroup and he'd have found his answer, rather than
starting a new thread.

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<@.>

in reply to "Bob Abbott" on 17/10/2008 1:27 PM

23/10/2008 11:58 AM

Leonard Shapiro wrote:

>try teranews.com for about $4 you can get free account(4 sign up fee that's
>all ever) that gives you 50mgs a month download if your only into binaries
>that's all you will ever need.

Teranews allows the user to download 50megs a day.

>
>
>len
>

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "Bob Abbott" on 17/10/2008 1:27 PM

18/10/2008 11:46 PM


"Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>
> That's good advice, but the retention on binary groups may not allow one
> to go back very far at all. So, just to start this all up anew, here
> would be my recommendation:

Why? He's asking a question about providers, which really has nothing to do
with binary retention. To start this anew only makes yet another thread on
the same thing that is actively being discussed.


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-Mike-
[email protected]

BH

Bob Haar

in reply to "Bob Abbott" on 17/10/2008 1:27 PM

19/10/2008 12:00 PM

On 10/19/08 8:31 AMOct 19, "Han" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> "Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>
>>> That's good advice, but the retention on binary groups may not allow
>>> one to go back very far at all. So, just to start this all up anew,
>>> here would be my recommendation:
>>
>> Why? He's asking a question about providers, which really has nothing
>> to do with binary retention. To start this anew only makes yet
>> another thread on the same thing that is actively being discussed.
>>
> Huh? Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I thought the question was because
> Comcast is going to stop offering newsgroups, how the OP could stay "in the
> loop". Since this was posted in a binary group with likely low retention,
> I just made a short recommendation. OP can take it from there.

Check the cross posting. This also went to rec.woodworking, a text-only
group. That is a more appropriate place for this discussion anyway.

In any case, the notion fo retention applies to the news server, not to the
news group. Various providers may have different retention policies for text
versus binary groups, but ti is still a function of the NNTP server
policies.

Neither of these changes the basic point that this has been discussed a
number of times already. If the OP wanted to discuss this in a newsgroup
where it would be clearly on-topic, then he should have used
alt.online-service.comcast .

BA

"Bob Abbott"

in reply to "Bob Abbott" on 17/10/2008 1:27 PM

17/10/2008 4:44 PM

Thanks Tom,
I think Phil also mentioned this. I checked it out and it seems to have
some good stuff.
Bob
"Tom Veatch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mentioned in another post; not a "newsgroup" per se, but a web based
> moderated forum you access through your web browser. No special
> newsreader software necessary.
>
> www.sawmillcreek.org
>
> It's moderated so you don't get all the political raving or the ad
> hominem attacks that seem to be all some folks want or know how to do.
> There are a few rules that you have to respect (eschew political rants
> and raves is one) to retain membership, but unless you are addicted to
> posting ravings such a mentioned above, they are not a heavy burden
> and make for a congenial environment. A "family" place, the infantile
> "You stupid ****" behavior isn't tolerated.
>
> Guests can read messages, but registration and membership is required
> to post messages. There are two levels of membership. "Member" is free
> and allows reading and posting to all the public forums. "Contributor"
> requires a small annual contribution and opens access to a couple of
> "contributor-only" forums along with a few other "contributor-only"
> options. The hosting organization suggest an annual contribution of
> $6.00.
>
> If you want to read about woodworking related topics without having to
> wade through off-topic politics, trolling, wristwatch advertisements,
> pornography, .etc, I can recommend Sawmill Creek.
>
> Tom Veatch
> Wichita, KS
> USA

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Phil Again

in reply to "Bob Abbott" on 17/10/2008 1:27 PM

17/10/2008 4:33 PM

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:27:47 -0700, Bob Abbott wrote:

> I have read and posted on rec.woodworking and
> alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking (and other groups)for about 10 years.
> These groups have been very helpful for the hobbiest woodworker to see
> other peoples work, to post my work, and to ask questions regarding
> techniques, etc. Unfortunately Comcast is now ending it's access to
> newsgroups in a week or so, so I am looking for help regarding my
> options: 1. Are there any recommendations for woodworking web sites
> that provide similar postings of technical questions and posting of
> project pictures? I looked on line but haven't found anything
> equivalent. 2. Any recommendations regarding free or very cheap access
> to newsgroups?
>
> Quick replys are appreciated as I will be cut off soon.
>
> Thanks, I hate to give up on breadth of information available on these
> sites.
> Bob
> --

http://www.sawmillcreek.org (note the dot 'org')

the forum hosted by publisher of WoodSmith magazine:
http://www.forums.woodnet.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php

the publisher of Fine Woodworking (Taunton Press) has a forum I followed
a few years ago, a few like that forum. Not my cup of coffee.
You have to wander around the Fine Woodworking pages, and look for
community and then click on Knots. Registration seems mandatory.

There are others, don't forget to search within MSN groups.

Hn

Han

in reply to "Bob Abbott" on 17/10/2008 1:27 PM

18/10/2008 1:47 PM

"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> "Bob Abbott" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I have read and posted on rec.woodworking and
>>alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking (and other groups)for about 10
>>years. These groups have been very helpful for the hobbiest woodworker
>>to see other peoples work, to post my work, and to ask questions
>>regarding techniques, etc. Unfortunately Comcast is now ending it's
>>access to newsgroups in a week or so, so I am looking for help
>>regarding my options:
>> 1. Are there any recommendations for woodworking web sites that
>> provide similar postings of technical questions and posting of
>> project pictures? I looked on line but haven't found anything
>> equivalent. 2. Any recommendations regarding free or very cheap
>> access to newsgroups?
>>
>> Quick replys are appreciated as I will be cut off soon.
>>
>
> There have been several threads on this very topic over the past few
> weeks. Rather than start a new thread asking exactly the same question
> that has been asked and answered in these threads, why not just look
> at what is already in the active threads?

That's good advice, but the retention on binary groups may not allow one
to go back very far at all. So, just to start this all up anew, here
would be my recommendation:

For the groups I'm interested in that were dropped by Verizon, I use
astraweb. Specifically, look at news.astraweb.com and search for the
different subscription plans. The one I am using since June is the pay
$10, get 25 GB of downloads (headers not included) until this runs out.
I still have 24 GB in the "bank".

Using Xnews, I can set up as many servers as I like. That includes
Verizon, Astraweb, Microsoft, Motzarella (free non-binary access).


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Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Hn

Han

in reply to "Bob Abbott" on 17/10/2008 1:27 PM

19/10/2008 12:31 PM

"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> "Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>
>> That's good advice, but the retention on binary groups may not allow
>> one to go back very far at all. So, just to start this all up anew,
>> here would be my recommendation:
>
> Why? He's asking a question about providers, which really has nothing
> to do with binary retention. To start this anew only makes yet
> another thread on the same thing that is actively being discussed.
>
Huh? Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I thought the question was because
Comcast is going to stop offering newsgroups, how the OP could stay "in the
loop". Since this was posted in a binary group with likely low retention,
I just made a short recommendation. OP can take it from there.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

AL

A Lurker

in reply to "Bob Abbott" on 17/10/2008 1:27 PM

24/10/2008 2:39 PM

<@.> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Leonard Shapiro wrote:
>
>>try teranews.com for about $4 you can get free account(4 sign up fee
>>that's all ever) that gives you 50mgs a month download if your only
>>into binaries that's all you will ever need.
>
> Teranews allows the user to download 50megs a day.
>
>>
>>
>>len
>>
>

I'll let this post be my swan song. My Comcast Service stops tomorrow.
Free TerraNews is fine for reading all groups. The problem is posting.
Sometimes the posting will show up quickly but other times it will
magically appear on the group days later, long after responses to the
thread are relavant. Having used TerraNews before getting Comcast a few
months ago, I am "Alurker" since in order to post effectively with
TerraNews I switch to Google Groups to post even though reading
unfiltered threads on Google is too painful. So tomorrow I'm relagated
to lurking again.

Jerry

Hn

Han

in reply to "Bob Abbott" on 17/10/2008 1:27 PM

25/10/2008 12:47 PM

A Lurker <[email protected]> wrote in news:Xns9B419F3E638B8aLurker@
216.196.97.136:

> <@.> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> Leonard Shapiro wrote:
>>
>>>try teranews.com for about $4 you can get free account(4 sign up fee
>>>that's all ever) that gives you 50mgs a month download if your only
>>>into binaries that's all you will ever need.
>>
>> Teranews allows the user to download 50megs a day.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>len
>>>
>>
>
> I'll let this post be my swan song. My Comcast Service stops tomorrow.
> Free TerraNews is fine for reading all groups. The problem is posting.
> Sometimes the posting will show up quickly but other times it will
> magically appear on the group days later, long after responses to the
> thread are relavant. Having used TerraNews before getting Comcast a few
> months ago, I am "Alurker" since in order to post effectively with
> TerraNews I switch to Google Groups to post even though reading
> unfiltered threads on Google is too painful. So tomorrow I'm relagated
> to lurking again.
>
> Jerry
>
Once again, Motzarella is pretty good for non-binary groups and free.
Astraweb has this nifty $10 contribution account that will let you
download 25 GB, it doesn't expire, so I am still using it now. I paid in
June and still have a bout 24GB left to spend. Other subscriptinos
available too. Check it out. <http://news.astraweb.com/>

Satisfied user ...


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Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

TV

Tom Veatch

in reply to "Bob Abbott" on 17/10/2008 1:27 PM

17/10/2008 6:29 PM

Mentioned in another post; not a "newsgroup" per se, but a web based
moderated forum you access through your web browser. No special
newsreader software necessary.

www.sawmillcreek.org

It's moderated so you don't get all the political raving or the ad
hominem attacks that seem to be all some folks want or know how to do.
There are a few rules that you have to respect (eschew political rants
and raves is one) to retain membership, but unless you are addicted to
posting ravings such a mentioned above, they are not a heavy burden
and make for a congenial environment. A "family" place, the infantile
"You stupid ****" behavior isn't tolerated.

Guests can read messages, but registration and membership is required
to post messages. There are two levels of membership. "Member" is free
and allows reading and posting to all the public forums. "Contributor"
requires a small annual contribution and opens access to a couple of
"contributor-only" forums along with a few other "contributor-only"
options. The hosting organization suggest an annual contribution of
$6.00.

If you want to read about woodworking related topics without having to
wade through off-topic politics, trolling, wristwatch advertisements,
pornography, .etc, I can recommend Sawmill Creek.

Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS
USA

DP

"Dave - Parkville, MD"

in reply to "Bob Abbott" on 17/10/2008 1:27 PM

18/10/2008 4:36 AM

On Oct 17, 4:27=A0pm, "Bob Abbott" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have read and posted on rec.woodworking and
> alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking (and other groups)for about 10 years.
> These groups have been very helpful for the hobbiest woodworker to see ot=
her
> peoples work, to post my work, and to ask questions regarding techniques,
> etc. =A0Unfortunately Comcast is now ending it's access to newsgroups in =
a
> week or so, so I am looking for help regarding my options:
> 1. Are there any recommendations for =A0woodworking web sites that provid=
e
> similar postings of technical questions and posting of project pictures? =
I
> looked on line but haven't found anything equivalent.
> 2. Any recommendations regarding free or very cheap access to newsgroups?
>
> Quick replys are appreciated as I will be cut off soon.
>
> Thanks, I hate to give up on breadth of information available on these
> sites.
> Bob
> --
>
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A relatively new site (couple of years) is LumberJocks. Members
(free) can post blogs, discussions, post pics, authur tool tests, etc.

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "Bob Abbott" on 17/10/2008 1:27 PM

18/10/2008 8:44 AM


"Bob Abbott" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have read and posted on rec.woodworking and
>alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking (and other groups)for about 10 years.
>These groups have been very helpful for the hobbiest woodworker to see
>other peoples work, to post my work, and to ask questions regarding
>techniques, etc. Unfortunately Comcast is now ending it's access to
>newsgroups in a week or so, so I am looking for help regarding my options:
> 1. Are there any recommendations for woodworking web sites that provide
> similar postings of technical questions and posting of project pictures? I
> looked on line but haven't found anything equivalent.
> 2. Any recommendations regarding free or very cheap access to newsgroups?
>
> Quick replys are appreciated as I will be cut off soon.
>

There have been several threads on this very topic over the past few weeks.
Rather than start a new thread asking exactly the same question that has
been asked and answered in these threads, why not just look at what is
already in the active threads?

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

TV

Tom Veatch

in reply to "Bob Abbott" on 17/10/2008 1:27 PM

17/10/2008 6:01 PM

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:27:47 -0700, "Bob Abbott"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Any recommendations regarding free or very cheap access to newsgroups?

http://www.newsgroupreviews.com/

Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS
USA

LN

Lee

in reply to "Bob Abbott" on 17/10/2008 1:27 PM

25/10/2008 12:45 PM

I also lost usenet access from Time Warner Roadrunner several months ago.

Have been happy with Forte. http://www.forteinc.com/apn/ Agent Premium
Newsgroups.

Just $2.95 for 12gig/month. More than sufficient for me.

Bb

"Bob"

in reply to "Bob Abbott" on 17/10/2008 1:27 PM

17/10/2008 4:10 PM

Thanks to Dave, Phil and Tom. These plus the info from the other threads
should get me set again. Bob

JS

Jack Stein

in reply to "Bob Abbott" on 17/10/2008 1:27 PM

25/10/2008 10:04 AM

A Lurker wrote:

> I'll let this post be my swan song. My Comcast Service stops tomorrow.

I've been using Motzarella for my text groups but today is the 25th and
comcast still has not notified me they are dropping newsgroups? I'm
posting this via comcast so if you are reading it, then comcast is still
as of 10:00 a.m 0n 10/25/2007 still carrying newsgroups, and binary ones
as well.

Perhaps today is the last day? Still, I wonder why they haven't
notified me yet?

I might add that Motzarella has worked flawlessly for me so far for text
stuff and there has been no discernible difference from Giganews and
Motzarella.
--
Jack
Using FREE News Server: http://Motzarella.org
http://jbstein.com

LS

"Leonard Shapiro"

in reply to "Bob Abbott" on 17/10/2008 1:27 PM

22/10/2008 5:31 PM

try teranews.com for about $4 you can get free account(4 sign up fee that's
all ever) that gives you 50mgs a month download if your only into binaries
that's all you will ever need.


len


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