I have a General 350 TS. I bought a pair of Freud blade stiffeners and several Freud
TS blades. Should I install only one stiffener outboard of the blade or one on each
side of the blade? My concern is shifting the blade too far to the left such that the
blade is not centered in the table insert or may even touch it from the bottom. Sure,
I can try it both ways and see, but I thought you guys would save me the trouble of
doing that.
Thank you Bob. I thought that was correct but I wanted to check first.
Hoyt W.
"Bob S." wrote:
> Place one on the side of the arbor nut.
>
> Bob S.
>
> "Hoyt Weathers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I have a General 350 TS. I bought a pair of Freud blade stiffeners and
> several Freud
> > TS blades. Should I install only one stiffener outboard of the blade or
> one on each
> > side of the blade? My concern is shifting the blade too far to the left
> such that the
> > blade is not centered in the table insert or may even touch it from the
> bottom. Sure,
> > I can try it both ways and see, but I thought you guys would save me the
> trouble of
> > doing that.
> >
John, my stiffeners are of the type with a raised rim as you described. I will try
them, positioned as you suggested, and see how the blade sits with respect to the
table insert. BTW, I removed the splitter several years ago.
Hoyt
John Siegel wrote:
> Juergen Hannappel wrote:
> > Hoyt Weathers <[email protected]> writes:
> >
> >
> >>I have a General 350 TS. I bought a pair of Freud blade stiffeners and
> >>several Freud TS blades. Should I install only one stiffener outboard
> >
> >
> > How big is the flange on the arbor? On the Metabo TS i worked width
> > the flange was about 3 1/2" in diameter, so i don't see the point of
> > the stiffener...
> >
>
> There are two types of stiffeners that I know of on the market.
> One type is basically a large diameter flat washer. A single one of
> these is used on the nut side of the blade.
> There is a second type which is flat only near the rim and curves
> away from the blade closer to the arbor. This type is meant to be used
> in pairs - one on each side of the blade.
> I don't know off hand which type the Freud is. However I suspect that
> if Freud sells them in pairs that is the way they were meant to be used.
> I use the type that is flat and only use one on the outside of the blade.
> John
Barry, right on! You said it much better than I could. If I recall correctly, I
removed the splitter because it was in the way when I needed to do some cove cutting
and never felt the need to reinstall it. There may have been other reasons, but I
forget what they may have been. Since then, I have never, ever had a situation where
a splitter would have made a difference. Yes, I have ripped 4' x 8' stock and no
problem whatsoever. Case closed.
Hoyt
"B a r r y B u r k e J r ." wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 22:15:40 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
> wrote:
>
> >Why on earth would you remove the splitter?
>
> Probably the same reason I've removed every splitter I've ever owned.
> Stock splitters suck! They don't stay aligned, they're in the way
> when you don't need them, and they're a PITA to take off and put on.
>
> I've had more safety problems with misaligned plates, malfunctioning
> pawls, etc... than kickbacks due to not using one. In other words,
> the crappy stock splitters have CAUSED problems.
>
> Understanding what causes kickback, staying out of the line of fire,
> and using other safety devices, like featherboards on the fence, push
> sticks and blocks, etc... can make ripping plenty safe with no
> splitter.
>
> I'd LIKE to use one, so I'm looking for a good aftermarket splitter
> for my General. A local dealer is checking on availability of the
> Bies snap-in model for the 650. The Merlin still needs a rear
> connection, so I don't see it as a viable replacement for the stock
> version.
>
> Barry
Andrew, I need to find the splitter first. I have no idea where I may have put it.
That was several years ago. If and when I find it, I will jump back in here with a
new post about it. We can then take the topic off line with e-mails to each other for
the details. Your cost would be zero.
Hoyt
The Good Bohemian wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Hoyt Weathers
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Barry, right on! You said it much better than I could. If I recall correctly,
> > I
> > removed the splitter because it was in the way when I needed to do some cove
> > cutting
> > and never felt the need to reinstall it. There may have been other reasons,
> > but I
> > forget what they may have been. Since then, I have never, ever had a
> > situation where
> > a splitter would have made a difference. Yes, I have ripped 4' x 8' stock and
> > no
> > problem whatsoever. Case closed.
> > Hoyt
>
> If you aren't going to use it ever again, will you part with it? I am
> looking to retrofit a splitter on an older Beaver/Rockwell saw.
>
> If you can help, please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew.
In article <[email protected]>, Hoyt Weathers
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Barry, right on! You said it much better than I could. If I recall correctly,
> I
> removed the splitter because it was in the way when I needed to do some cove
> cutting
> and never felt the need to reinstall it. There may have been other reasons,
> but I
> forget what they may have been. Since then, I have never, ever had a
> situation where
> a splitter would have made a difference. Yes, I have ripped 4' x 8' stock and
> no
> problem whatsoever. Case closed.
> Hoyt
If you aren't going to use it ever again, will you part with it? I am
looking to retrofit a splitter on an older Beaver/Rockwell saw.
If you can help, please let me know.
Thanks,
Andrew.
Hoyt Weathers <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have a General 350 TS. I bought a pair of Freud blade stiffeners and
> several Freud TS blades. Should I install only one stiffener outboard of
> the blade or one on each side of the blade? My concern is shifting the
> blade too far to the left such that the blade is not centered in the table
> insert or may even touch it from the bottom. Sure, I can try it both ways
> and see, but I thought you guys would save me the trouble of doing that.
The Freud stiffeners are designed only to be used in pairs. If you use
just one, you will retension the blade and it will no longer be
perpendicular to the table top. If you don't believe me, adjust your
blade perpendicular to the table without the stiffener. Than install
just one stiffener and check the blade with an engineers square. You
can easily see that it is now out. I made cuts with both stiffeners on,
and then without and could not tell the difference so I don't use them.
All of my blades are full kerf. The stiffeners might make a noticeable
difference if you are using thin kerf blades. There is a different
type of stiffener that is used on just one side of the blade - Forrest
makes one.
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Juergen Hannappel wrote:
> Hoyt Weathers <[email protected]> writes:
>
>
>>I have a General 350 TS. I bought a pair of Freud blade stiffeners and
>>several Freud TS blades. Should I install only one stiffener outboard
>
>
> How big is the flange on the arbor? On the Metabo TS i worked width
> the flange was about 3 1/2" in diameter, so i don't see the point of
> the stiffener...
>
There are two types of stiffeners that I know of on the market.
One type is basically a large diameter flat washer. A single one of
these is used on the nut side of the blade.
There is a second type which is flat only near the rim and curves
away from the blade closer to the arbor. This type is meant to be used
in pairs - one on each side of the blade.
I don't know off hand which type the Freud is. However I suspect that
if Freud sells them in pairs that is the way they were meant to be used.
I use the type that is flat and only use one on the outside of the blade.
John
Typically you just use ONE stiffener, between the arbor nut and the
blade
John
On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 11:12:28 -0600, Hoyt Weathers <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I have a General 350 TS. I bought a pair of Freud blade stiffeners and several Freud
>TS blades. Should I install only one stiffener outboard of the blade or one on each
>side of the blade? My concern is shifting the blade too far to the left such that the
>blade is not centered in the table insert or may even touch it from the bottom. Sure,
>I can try it both ways and see, but I thought you guys would save me the trouble of
>doing that.
Place one on the side of the arbor nut.
Bob S.
"Hoyt Weathers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have a General 350 TS. I bought a pair of Freud blade stiffeners and
several Freud
> TS blades. Should I install only one stiffener outboard of the blade or
one on each
> side of the blade? My concern is shifting the blade too far to the left
such that the
> blade is not centered in the table insert or may even touch it from the
bottom. Sure,
> I can try it both ways and see, but I thought you guys would save me the
trouble of
> doing that.
>
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>John, my stiffeners are of the type with a raised rim as you described. I will
> try
>them, positioned as you suggested, and see how the blade sits with respect to
> the
>table insert. BTW, I removed the splitter several years ago.
Why on earth would you remove the splitter?
--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?
On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 11:12:28 -0600, Hoyt Weathers <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I have a General 350 TS. I bought a pair of Freud blade stiffeners and several Freud
>TS blades.
If you have full-kerf blades, vs. thin-kerf, you may not even need
them.
Barry
On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 22:15:40 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
wrote:
>Why on earth would you remove the splitter?
Probably the same reason I've removed every splitter I've ever owned.
Stock splitters suck! They don't stay aligned, they're in the way
when you don't need them, and they're a PITA to take off and put on.
I've had more safety problems with misaligned plates, malfunctioning
pawls, etc... than kickbacks due to not using one. In other words,
the crappy stock splitters have CAUSED problems.
Understanding what causes kickback, staying out of the line of fire,
and using other safety devices, like featherboards on the fence, push
sticks and blocks, etc... can make ripping plenty safe with no
splitter.
I'd LIKE to use one, so I'm looking for a good aftermarket splitter
for my General. A local dealer is checking on availability of the
Bies snap-in model for the 650. The Merlin still needs a rear
connection, so I don't see it as a viable replacement for the stock
version.
Barry
Hoyt Weathers <[email protected]> writes:
> I have a General 350 TS. I bought a pair of Freud blade stiffeners and
> several Freud TS blades. Should I install only one stiffener outboard
How big is the flange on the arbor? On the Metabo TS i worked width
the flange was about 3 1/2" in diameter, so i don't see the point of
the stiffener...
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