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"Bill Rittner"

11/02/2004 9:37 AM

OT - FTP Freeware?

Is there a freeware download of ws_ftp?

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"Greg O"

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

11/02/2004 9:31 PM


"Bob Davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Its now educational only. Personal use is not included.
>
> "

thank god my daughter needed it for school! ;-)
Greg

gn

gabriel

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

11/02/2004 4:03 PM

Leon wrote:

> What is ws_ftp?

If the name doesn't tell you anything, you don't need it.

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gabriel

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[email protected] (skimhoff)

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

11/02/2004 4:47 PM

Leech FTP is still available as a free download. Its no longer being
developed or supported, though, but works great...

http://tinyurl.com/2gh9x

"Bill Rittner" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<p6rWb.32161$fZ6.8198@lakeread06>...
> Is there a freeware download of ws_ftp?
>
> --
> Bill Rittner
> R & B ENTERPRISES
> Manchester, CT
>
> [email protected]
>
> "Don't take this life too seriously.......nobody
> gets out alive" (Unknown)
>
> Remove "no" to reply

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Lance Spaulding

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

12/02/2004 10:42 AM

Bill Rittner <[email protected]> wrote:
> Is there a freeware download of ws_ftp?

Don't know about ws_ftp, but smartftp is free for
personal use. You can get it at smartftp.com

Lance

gn

gabriel

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

11/02/2004 9:43 PM

One note: If what you want to do is do FTP transfers (upload and download)
with an FTP server that requires a login, you can use the Internet
Explorer. Enter your URL like this:

ftp://<username>:<password>@<ftpserver>

So like this:

ftp://gabriel:[email protected]

There are other reasons to buy an actual FTP client like ws_ftp, such as:
Needing a non-passive FTP connection (IE can only do passive), or needing
to run custom FTP commands, or havnig an FTP server that IE does not
understand, etc...

Just wanted to give you a heads up in case authentication was your reason
for getting a different FTP client.

--
gabriel

gn

gabriel

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

12/02/2004 3:19 PM

Bill Rittner wrote:

> Is there a freeware download of ws_ftp?

LOL, sorry about inciting this "my free FTP client is better than your free
FTP client" discussion. All I meant to say is that you don't have to spend
money if you don't want to. WS FTP costs about $60, so it may or may not
be worth it to you depending on how good a fit the program is and how much
transferring you do. At least now you have more info.

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gabriel

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[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

11/02/2004 10:43 PM

gabriel <[email protected]> writes:

>I brought it up because I have dealt with it before, it works, and most
>people don't realize that it's pretty easy to use IE as a non-anomous FTP
>client.

Any web browser that supports the Uniform Resource Locator (URL) RFC 1738
will support non-anonymous FTP access. The RFC describes URL's for the
following services, in addition to http[s] (hypertext transfer protocol):

ftp - file transfer protocol (RFC 959)
gopher - gopher protocol (early type of search engine) (RFC 1436)
mailto - SMTP (RFC 821)
news - Usenet News
nntp - Usenet News using NNTP (RFC 977)
telnet - Telnet (RFC 854)
wais - Wide area information service (RFC 1625)

scott

gn

gabriel

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

12/02/2004 6:30 PM

Leon wrote:

>> > What is ws_ftp?
>> If the name doesn't tell you anything, you don't need it.
> I suspect it is a big secret or you don't know either, but I have no
> problem myself transferring large files with DSL.

All right, I'll tell ya: FTP is File Transfer Protocol, which is simply
a way of transferring files throught the TCP/IP protocol. You need an
FTP server as well as a client to transfer files this way.

FTP is a protocol that runs on top of your internet connection, so on
your DSL connection you would use an FTP client to upload and download
files to a server.

Most people use FTP without knowing they are using it, as the web browser
(at least most web browsers) seamlessly implement the FTP protocol
without problems. Unless you look very carefully while downloading
something, you will not realize that the transfer protocol is FTP.

Sorry for my smart-ass response. My point was that, unless you needed
some of the extended features of the FTP protocol (or will transfer lots
of files regularly), you probably do not need a separate FTP client. If
you don't know what an FTP client is, then you probably don't need one.

Now WS FTP is one of many commercially-available FTP clients. WS FTP is
widely seen as the best FTP client there is, but you nkow how everyone
has their own opinion about such things. You can find WS FTP at
ipswitch.com which is the manufacturer's web site.

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gabriel

gn

gabriel

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

12/02/2004 3:15 PM

Bob Haar wrote:

> One of the recently announced security fixes for MSIE turns off the
> ability to send the ID and password as part of the URL.

PLEASE don't spread misinformation. This patch turns off URL
username/password ONLY for HTTP and HTTPS, not anything else.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/?
url=/technet/security/bulletin/MS04-004.asp

> In any case, many operating systems, including recent versions of MS
> Windows, include command line FTP that serves for most casual usage.

For the computer nerd, yes. For the typical woodworker, anything command
line sucks.

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gabriel

BH

Bob Haar

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

11/02/2004 10:20 PM

On 2004/2/11 4:43 PM, "gabriel" <[email protected]> wrote:

> One note: If what you want to do is do FTP transfers (upload and download)
> with an FTP server that requires a login, you can use the Internet
> Explorer. Enter your URL like this:
>
> ftp://<username>:<password>@<ftpserver>
>
> So like this:
>
> ftp://gabriel:[email protected]
>


One of the recently announced security fixes for MSIE turns off the ability
to send the ID and password as part of the URL.

In any case, many operating systems, including recent versions of MS
Windows, include command line FTP that serves for most casual usage.

MH

"Mark Hopkins"

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

11/02/2004 6:18 PM

That's just a Microsoft "feature" in their software... Linux Rules..

"Bridger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:43:47 +0000, gabriel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >One note: If what you want to do is do FTP transfers (upload and
download)
> >with an FTP server that requires a login, you can use the Internet
> >Explorer. Enter your URL like this:
> >
> >ftp://<username>:<password>@<ftpserver>
> >
> >So like this:
> >
> >ftp://gabriel:[email protected]
> >
> >There are other reasons to buy an actual FTP client like ws_ftp, such as:
> >Needing a non-passive FTP connection (IE can only do passive), or needing
> >to run custom FTP commands, or havnig an FTP server that IE does not
> >understand, etc...
> >
> >Just wanted to give you a heads up in case authentication was your reason
> >for getting a different FTP client.
>
>
>
> using IE for an ftp client will get you banned from a lot of boards.
> it pounsd the servers something bad....

FF

"FMB"

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

11/02/2004 2:41 PM

check out www.tucows.com for downloads

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"Bill Rittner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:p6rWb.32161$fZ6.8198@lakeread06...
> Is there a freeware download of ws_ftp?
>
> --
> Bill Rittner
> R & B ENTERPRISES
> Manchester, CT
>
> [email protected]
>
> "Don't take this life too seriously.......nobody
> gets out alive" (Unknown)
>
> Remove "no" to reply
>
>
>

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

12/02/2004 6:38 PM

Thanks..

VR

Victor Radin

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

11/02/2004 3:30 PM

In article <p6rWb.32161$fZ6.8198@lakeread06>, [email protected] says...
> Is there a freeware download of ws_ftp?
>
Bill- I don't know about ws_ftp, but I've been using FTP Commander for
years and it's been pretty much bullet proof, holds a good sized list of
FTP sites, and allows server-side file manipulation.

DL at tucows, or your favorite freeware source.

/vic
disclaimer: not affiliated with program or sources... etc.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

11/02/2004 3:36 PM

What is ws_ftp?

Aside from that question, I get a LOT of freeware from Nonags.com


"Bill Rittner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:p6rWb.32161$fZ6.8198@lakeread06...
> Is there a freeware download of ws_ftp?
>
> --
> Bill Rittner
> R & B ENTERPRISES
> Manchester, CT
>
> [email protected]
>
> "Don't take this life too seriously.......nobody
> gets out alive" (Unknown)
>
> Remove "no" to reply
>
>

BD

"Bob Davis"

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

11/02/2004 3:05 PM

Its now educational only. Personal use is not included.

"Rob Walters" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> You can download the "LE" version from their site. You can only qualify
to
> use it for free, IIRC, if you are a student, use if for personal purposes
> only, and a couple other things I can't remember. What you do with that
> information is your own bidness :)

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

12/02/2004 6:04 PM


"gabriel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Leon wrote:
>
> > What is ws_ftp?
>
> If the name doesn't tell you anything, you don't need it.


I suspect it is a big secret or you don't know either, but I have no problem
myself transferring large files with DSL.

gn

gabriel

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

11/02/2004 10:09 PM

Bridger wrote:

> using IE for an ftp client will get you banned from a lot of boards.
> it pounsd the servers something bad....

Boards? What boards? Message boards?

Anyway, with the servers we run here, IE clients do send more chatter
back and forth, but nowhere near enough to be a problem. We are talking
very, very few extra bytes.

For what it's worth, an organization that bans users for their choice of
client software just plain sucks at many levels. If the extra chatter
from IE breaks a server, then there's a big problem with the
organization.

I brought it up because I have dealt with it before, it works, and most
people don't realize that it's pretty easy to use IE as a non-anomous FTP
client.

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gabriel

RW

"Rob Walters"

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

11/02/2004 10:51 AM


"Bob Davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Its now educational only. Personal use is not included.
>

I stand corrected. Been a while since I have installed WS_FTP...

Thanks,
Rob

bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

12/02/2004 2:20 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
gabriel <[email protected]> wrote:
>One note: If what you want to do is do FTP transfers (upload and download)
>with an FTP server that requires a login, you can use the Internet
>Explorer. Enter your URL like this:
>
>ftp://<username>:<password>@<ftpserver>
>
>So like this:
>
>ftp://gabriel:[email protected]
>
>There are other reasons to buy an actual FTP client like ws_ftp, such as:
>Needing a non-passive FTP connection (IE can only do passive), or needing
>to run custom FTP commands, or havnig an FTP server that IE does not
>understand, etc...

There is a perfectly good _command-line_ FTP client bundled with
all the recent versions of MS-Windows.

just open a MS-DOS (aka "command") window, and type FTP at the dos prompt


If you need an FTP _server_, ws_ftp is worth considering.

RS

"Rob Stokes"

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

12/02/2004 4:42 AM

Bill, I said it before, and I'll say it again, That thing is awesome!

Rob

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"Bill Rittner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:rfxWb.32406$fZ6.12659@lakeread06...
> Thanks to all who replied. Your help is greatly appreciated. I went to the
> company site and downloaded a 30 day trial of ws_ftp. It is a very easy
> application to use and I have posted some pics of an antique workbench I
am
> cleanning for use. Here are the pics.
>
> http://members.cox.net/wcrittner/Bench%201.jpg
>
> http://members.cox.net/wcrittner/Bench%202.jpg
>
> http://members.cox.net/wcrittner/Bench%203.jpg
>
> http://members.cox.net/wcrittner/Bench%204.jpg
>
>
> --
> Bill Rittner
> R & B ENTERPRISES
> Manchester, CT
>
> [email protected]
>
> "Don't take this life too seriously.......nobody
> gets out alive" (Unknown)
>
> Remove "no" to reply
> "Bill Rittner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:p6rWb.32161$fZ6.8198@lakeread06...
> > Is there a freeware download of ws_ftp?
> >
> > --
> > Bill Rittner
> > R & B ENTERPRISES
> > Manchester, CT
> >
> > [email protected]
> >
> > "Don't take this life too seriously.......nobody
> > gets out alive" (Unknown)
> >
> > Remove "no" to reply
> >
> >
>
>

Bn

Bridger

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

11/02/2004 2:57 PM

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:43:47 +0000, gabriel <[email protected]> wrote:

>One note: If what you want to do is do FTP transfers (upload and download)
>with an FTP server that requires a login, you can use the Internet
>Explorer. Enter your URL like this:
>
>ftp://<username>:<password>@<ftpserver>
>
>So like this:
>
>ftp://gabriel:[email protected]
>
>There are other reasons to buy an actual FTP client like ws_ftp, such as:
>Needing a non-passive FTP connection (IE can only do passive), or needing
>to run custom FTP commands, or havnig an FTP server that IE does not
>understand, etc...
>
>Just wanted to give you a heads up in case authentication was your reason
>for getting a different FTP client.



using IE for an ftp client will get you banned from a lot of boards.
it pounsd the servers something bad....

fF

[email protected] (Frank Shute)

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

12/02/2004 5:43 AM

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 20:43:30 -0600, Morris Dovey wrote:
>
> Robert Bonomi wrote:
>
>> There is a perfectly good _command-line_ FTP client bundled
>> with all the recent versions of MS-Windows.
>>
>> just open a MS-DOS (aka "command") window, and type FTP at the
>> dos prompt
>>
>> If you need an FTP _server_, ws_ftp is worth considering.
>
> You can get more information about the Windows ftp client
> invocation by entering "ftp -h" (w/o quotes) at the command prompt.

The commandline ftp client shipped with Windows is based on
BSD, at least mine is:

$ strings /mnt/dos/WINNT/system32/FTP.EXE | grep Regents

@(#) Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California.

>
> Once the ftp client is running you can use the standard "help"
> ftp command to display the list of commands supported.

You might find the manpage for FreeBSD ftp useful, although the one
shipped with Windows is probably archaic and probably doesn't support
all the commands mentioned in the manpage:

http://tinyurl.com/26bj6

--

Frank

http://www.freebsd.org/

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

11/02/2004 8:43 PM

Robert Bonomi wrote:

> There is a perfectly good _command-line_ FTP client bundled
> with all the recent versions of MS-Windows.
>
> just open a MS-DOS (aka "command") window, and type FTP at the
> dos prompt
>
> If you need an FTP _server_, ws_ftp is worth considering.

You can get more information about the Windows ftp client
invocation by entering "ftp -h" (w/o quotes) at the command prompt.

Once the ftp client is running you can use the standard "help"
ftp command to display the list of commands supported.

--
Morris Dovey
West Des Moines, Iowa USA
C links at http://www.iedu.com/c
Read my lips: The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Tt

"Toller"

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

11/02/2004 2:41 PM


"Bill Rittner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:p6rWb.32161$fZ6.8198@lakeread06...
> Is there a freeware download of ws_ftp?
>
Can't imagine why you are posting here, but I use FTP-Works. It was free
and works fine.

MB

Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com>

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

11/02/2004 2:57 PM

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:37:13 -0500, "Bill Rittner" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Is there a freeware download of ws_ftp?

<http://download.com.com/3000-2160-10018456.html>

BR

"Bill Rittner"

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

11/02/2004 4:36 PM

Thanks to all who replied. Your help is greatly appreciated. I went to the
company site and downloaded a 30 day trial of ws_ftp. It is a very easy
application to use and I have posted some pics of an antique workbench I am
cleanning for use. Here are the pics.

http://members.cox.net/wcrittner/Bench%201.jpg

http://members.cox.net/wcrittner/Bench%202.jpg

http://members.cox.net/wcrittner/Bench%203.jpg

http://members.cox.net/wcrittner/Bench%204.jpg


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R & B ENTERPRISES
Manchester, CT

[email protected]

"Don't take this life too seriously.......nobody
gets out alive" (Unknown)

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"Bill Rittner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:p6rWb.32161$fZ6.8198@lakeread06...
> Is there a freeware download of ws_ftp?
>
> --
> Bill Rittner
> R & B ENTERPRISES
> Manchester, CT
>
> [email protected]
>
> "Don't take this life too seriously.......nobody
> gets out alive" (Unknown)
>
> Remove "no" to reply
>
>

BD

"Bob Davis"

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

11/02/2004 8:01 PM

They have changed their license agreement to where its only free for
educational use, not personal use. The download link you referenced does
not say anything about it, but when you download it and try to install it,
you are immediately taken to a registration site before installation. The
licensing terms on the site clearly say educational use only.

Bob

"Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com>" <mbaglio<NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:37:13 -0500, "Bill Rittner" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Is there a freeware download of ws_ftp?
>
> <http://download.com.com/3000-2160-10018456.html>

RW

"Rob Walters"

in reply to "Bill Rittner" on 11/02/2004 9:37 AM

11/02/2004 9:44 AM


"Bill Rittner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:p6rWb.32161$fZ6.8198@lakeread06...
> Is there a freeware download of ws_ftp?
>
> --
> Bill Rittner
> R & B ENTERPRISES
> Manchester, CT

Bill,

You can download the "LE" version from their site. You can only qualify to
use it for free, IIRC, if you are a student, use if for personal purposes
only, and a couple other things I can't remember. What you do with that
information is your own bidness :)

If you want a truly freeware ftp client, try SmartFTP (smartftp.com). The
interface is a little different, but once you get used to it it seems to
work well.

Good luck,
Rob


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