The Da Vinci Code is bugging the crap out of me. If it weren't for the
reference to some box with a rose on it I'd probably stop reading it entirely.
I mean seriously - what's all the freaking hype about?
Watch out for those albino religious freaks y'all.
JP
**************************
Doing more stupid restoration work too. Just another shitty day in paradise I
guess....
Jay,
I am planning to build a cryptex and the box with the removable rose inlay.
Should be fun.
I enjoyed Dan Brown's other books as well. The DaVinci Code was a very good
read. I think most of the hype/controversy comes from the supposition Dan
makes about the Holy Grail.
Dave
"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> The Da Vinci Code is bugging the crap out of me. If it weren't for the
> reference to some box with a rose on it I'd probably stop reading it
entirely.
> I mean seriously - what's all the freaking hype about?
>
> Watch out for those albino religious freaks y'all.
>
> JP
> **************************
> Doing more stupid restoration work too. Just another shitty day in
paradise I
> guess....
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Just read a little more, the mix of history and pseudo history just gets
better.
Dave
"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I like the information about the church and the grail, it's the Robert
> Ludlum-esque "they're taking off cross country in a Range Rover
> pursued by a mad albino" stuff I can't seem to stomach.
>
> JP
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Agreed, to a point. It is after all, a work of fiction and as such, any
facts, historical or sience, have to be given a wide berth.
Dave
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> My problem with it is that his writing is that he doesn't get the
> pseudo-science close enough to right to avoid jarring me out of suspension
> of disbelief.
>
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Neil wrote:
> OWWR, you could use a copy of "Angels and Demons" like a mitt to hold
> your TS blade while you loosen the arbor nut.
LMAO!!
>
> That's the one where they were treating a hypersonic X-plane like a bizjet
> was it not?
> --John
How is that different that any other author? Including Clancy, Follet,
Michener, ect.
The Illuminati is at work in this NG!
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Mr. Clarke, If that's your real name. I think you are not so cleaver
disguising your real nom de plume, Arthur C Clarke. Nothing to far fetched
as you have created in most of your works.
Dave
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> TeamCasa wrote:
>
> > Neil wrote:
> >> OWWR, you could use a copy of "Angels and Demons" like a mitt to hold
> >> your TS blade while you loosen the arbor nut.
> >
> > LMAO!!
> >
> >>
> >> That's the one where they were treating a hypersonic X-plane like a
> >> bizjet was it not?
> >
> >> --John
> >
> > How is that different that any other author? Including Clancy, Follet,
> > Michener, ect.
>
> Sorry for the second post, but it just occurred to me a simpler way to
> explain the problem. "Our hero (who is not supposed to have super powers)
> looked that the 4-foot circular saw with the massive steam engine driving
> it at full power, stuck his finger in the way of the teeth, and the saw
> stalled instantly, thus saving the heroine".
>
> That's the kind of whopper we're talking about.
>
>
> > The Illuminati is at work in this NG!
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
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TeamCasa wrote:
> Just read a little more, the mix of history and pseudo history just gets
> better.
My problem with it is that his writing is that he doesn't get the
pseudo-science close enough to right to avoid jarring me out of suspension
of disbelief.
> Dave
>
>
>
> "Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> I like the information about the church and the grail, it's the Robert
>> Ludlum-esque "they're taking off cross country in a Range Rover
>> pursued by a mad albino" stuff I can't seem to stomach.
>>
>> JP
>>
>
>
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TeamCasa wrote:
> Agreed, to a point. It is after all, a work of fiction and as such, any
> facts, historical or sience, have to be given a wide berth.
Artistic license goes only so far. If he wants to introduce gratuitous
pseudo-science with the amount of detail that he uses, he needs to learn to
seduce the reader into accepting it instead of tossing it out in the middle
of the floor for the cat to sniff.
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> My problem with it is that his writing is that he doesn't get the
>> pseudo-science close enough to right to avoid jarring me out of
>> suspension of disbelief.
>>
>
>
>
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J. Clarke responds:
>
>> Agreed, to a point. It is after all, a work of fiction and as such, any
>> facts, historical or sience, have to be given a wide berth.
>
>Artistic license goes only so far. If he wants to introduce gratuitous
>pseudo-science with the amount of detail that he uses, he needs to learn to
>seduce the reader into accepting it instead of tossing it out in the middle
>of the floor for the cat to sniff.
Who you guys writing about? Someone compared his work to Ludlum, a guy who
never did learn that guns don't have "handles" and that knives do have hilts.
Didn't hurt his sales, though.
Charlie Self
"Property is not the sacred right. When a rich man becomes poor it is a
misfortune, it is not a moral evil. When a poor man becomes destitute, it is a
moral evil, teeming with consequences and injurious to society and morality."
Lord Acton
On 22 Apr 2004 23:37:23 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote:
>
>Who you guys writing about? Someone compared his work to Ludlum, a guy who
>never did learn that guns don't have "handles" and that knives do have hilts.
>
And then there is the myriad of authors who, after carefully identifying a handgun as being a revolver, go on to mention the
weapon's safety. They always lose me, then and there.
Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS USA
Tom Veatch responds:
>>
>>Who you guys writing about? Someone compared his work to Ludlum, a guy who
>>never did learn that guns don't have "handles" and that knives do have
>hilts.
>>
>
>
>And then there is the myriad of authors who, after carefully identifying a
>handgun as being a revolver, go on to mention the
>weapon's safety. They always lose me, then and there.
Not quite as large a number, but too many, also talk about silenced revolvers.
And then there are those who are always going on about .38 caliber, or, as in
the case of the guy who writes the Spenser novels, .12 gauge shotguns and .9mm
handguns.
Charlie Self
"A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance
of being right." Thomas Paine
Charlie Self wrote:
> J. Clarke responds:
>
>>
>>> Agreed, to a point. It is after all, a work of fiction and as such, any
>>> facts, historical or sience, have to be given a wide berth.
>>
>>Artistic license goes only so far. If he wants to introduce gratuitous
>>pseudo-science with the amount of detail that he uses, he needs to learn
>>to seduce the reader into accepting it instead of tossing it out in the
>>middle of the floor for the cat to sniff.
>
> Who you guys writing about?
Dan Brown.
> Someone compared his work to Ludlum, a guy who
> never did learn that guns don't have "handles" and that knives do have
> hilts.
>
> Didn't hurt his sales, though.
They're both proof of the notion that it's not what you say that counts,
it's how you say it--they both keep you wondering what's going to happen
next right up to the last page.
> Charlie Self
> "Property is not the sacred right. When a rich man becomes poor it is a
> misfortune, it is not a moral evil. When a poor man becomes destitute, it
> is a moral evil, teeming with consequences and injurious to society and
> morality." Lord Acton
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Neil wrote:
>> My problem with it is that his writing is that he doesn't get the
>> pseudo-science close enough to right to avoid jarring me out of
>> suspension of disbelief.
>
> He he, then you should stay away from his previous book "Angels and
> Demons" where the bad guys run around with a jar full of antimatter.
>
> OWWR, you could use a copy of "Angels and Demons" like a mitt to hold
> your TS blade while you loosen the arbor nut.
That's the one where they were treating a hypersonic X-plane like a bizjet
was it not?
> Neil
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TeamCasa wrote:
> Neil wrote:
>> OWWR, you could use a copy of "Angels and Demons" like a mitt to hold
>> your TS blade while you loosen the arbor nut.
>
> LMAO!!
>
>>
>> That's the one where they were treating a hypersonic X-plane like a
>> bizjet was it not?
>
>> --John
>
> How is that different that any other author? Including Clancy, Follet,
> Michener, ect.
So in which Clancy, Follet, Michener, etc novel did this happen? I'm sorry,
but the three you mention usually get their technical stuff fairly close.
Or perhaps you don't understand that "X-plane" doesn't mean "special
airplane that goes very fast", it means "one off prototype built using
unproven engineering principles for the purpose of proving those principles
or finding out the hard way that they are in error, that requires mountains
of infrastructure to keep in operation, usually needs major repairs of one
sort or another after a flight, is renowned for blowing up at engine start
or falling apart in mid-air, and that often has unusual flight
characteristics that make it nearly unflyable."
Now when has Clancy or Follet or Michener had something like that, developed
at great expense by the government, cut loose for a bunch of civilians to
use for personal transportation?
> The Illuminati is at work in this NG!
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
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TeamCasa wrote:
> Neil wrote:
>> OWWR, you could use a copy of "Angels and Demons" like a mitt to hold
>> your TS blade while you loosen the arbor nut.
>
> LMAO!!
>
>>
>> That's the one where they were treating a hypersonic X-plane like a
>> bizjet was it not?
>
>> --John
>
> How is that different that any other author? Including Clancy, Follet,
> Michener, ect.
Sorry for the second post, but it just occurred to me a simpler way to
explain the problem. "Our hero (who is not supposed to have super powers)
looked that the 4-foot circular saw with the massive steam engine driving
it at full power, stuck his finger in the way of the teeth, and the saw
stalled instantly, thus saving the heroine".
That's the kind of whopper we're talking about.
> The Illuminati is at work in this NG!
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
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> My problem with it is that his writing is that he doesn't get the
> pseudo-science close enough to right to avoid jarring me out of suspension
> of disbelief.
He he, then you should stay away from his previous book "Angels and
Demons" where the bad guys run around with a jar full of antimatter.
OWWR, you could use a copy of "Angels and Demons" like a mitt to hold
your TS blade while you loosen the arbor nut.
Neil
> Artistic license goes only so far. If he wants to introduce gratuitous
> pseudo-science with the amount of detail that he uses, he needs to learn to
> seduce the reader into accepting it instead of tossing it out in the middle
> of the floor for the cat to sniff.
I'm not sure what part you thought was pseudo-scientific, but my
suspension of disbelief was shot with the unveiling of the whole
historical conspiracy theory. Without giving it away, I found the
entire historical theory and the evidence given for it to be highly
uncompelling and bordering on the absurd.
I thought the gratuitous effort in the book was the fairly obvious
appeal to a Hollywood screen play. The story he chose to wrap his
unveiling of the conspiracy theory seemed tailor made for the silver
screen. I heard recently that there is a Davinci Code movie in the
works.
Despite my comments, I recommend the book to anyone I talk to about
it. It's a really entertaining read and a great conversation starter.
I shot through it in about three days and I am famous for starting and
not finishing books.
OWWR, one of the central themes of the book concerns a fairly well
known carpenter.
Neil
> That's the one where they were treating a hypersonic X-plane like a bizjet
> was it not?
>
Eezackly. Sounds like it already got to ya. It also was a very
entertaining read, but my eyes nearly stuck in the back of my head
from all the rolling they did. I was surprised he would use such a
similar story hook in the two books- Some guy dies in an interesting
way, Langdon gets called to the crime scene in the middle of the
night, a hot young female relative shows up to help solve the crime,
mayhem and car chases ensue...
But hey, both of them kept me turning the pages.
Neil
"TeamCasa" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Jay,
>I am planning to build a cryptex and the box with the removable rose inlay.
>Should be fun.
>
>I enjoyed Dan Brown's other books as well. The DaVinci Code was a very good
>read. I think most of the hype/controversy comes from the supposition Dan
>makes about the Holy Grail.
I like the information about the church and the grail, it's the Robert
Ludlum-esque "they're taking off cross country in a Range Rover
pursued by a mad albino" stuff I can't seem to stomach.
JP
>Dave
>
>
>"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> The Da Vinci Code is bugging the crap out of me. If it weren't for the
>> reference to some box with a rose on it I'd probably stop reading it
>entirely.
>> I mean seriously - what's all the freaking hype about?
>>
>> Watch out for those albino religious freaks y'all.
>>
>> JP
>> **************************
>> Doing more stupid restoration work too. Just another shitty day in
>paradise I
>> guess....
>
>
>
>
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On 23 Apr 2004 00:40:23 -0700, [email protected] (Neil) wrote:
-snip-
>
>OWWR, one of the central themes of the book concerns a fairly well
>known carpenter.
>
>Neil
OWWR?
DAGS of the Web:
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Tom Veatch
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