Any suggestions on the best surface/thickness planer to purchase. I had a
12" Jet for years. There are so many options out there now. I've been
looking at the new DeWalt DW735 model, but I haven't seen any comparison
reviews of this machine. Or, should I step up to a heavier 3hp model
($900-$1100 range) or stay with the bench type? I'm a weekend woodworker
who likes quality tools for making 3-4 pieces of furniture per year. Thanks
for any suggestions. Tom
Uhhhh I really think Ed was being cynical/funny. Read into the written
words. I personally found it funny as hell!!!
--
"Cartoons don't have any deep meaning.
They're just stupid drawings that give you a cheap laugh."
Homer Simpson
Jerry© The Phoneman®
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:%[email protected]...
> > To go with the planer, a DJ-30 12" jointer is the norm. Just about
> everone
> > here has that size, at leas the serious guys. The rest are a bunch of
> silly
> > guys that think they can get buy with wimpy 6" or 8" jointers. I hate to
>
> That's as about an arrogant statement as I've seen here. And learn how to
> spell you arrogant ass. It's "everyone" and "least" and "by" and that's in
> just one paragraph. There's over a dozen other errors in the rest. Your
> assumed arrogance is highly overrated.
>
>
Yea, regrettably she is. The boy's got a helluva lot to learn. He's a design
engineer for G.E. and about as common sense smart as a box of hair. That's
one reason there ain't no G.E. appliances in this house!
--
"Cartoons don't have any deep meaning.
They're just stupid drawings that give you a cheap laugh."
Homer Simpson
Jerry© The Phoneman®
"Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> oups!!!
>
> I hope your daugther is happy with him in that case...otherwise it is very
> sad....
>
> --
> Mike
> "Jerry Gilreath" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
> news:fyyWb.9296$jk2.25493@attbi_s53...
> > In this case some imbecile looming! That would be my Son In Law. Not by
> > choice either!!
> >
> > --
>
>
Sbtypesetter wrote:
> Hi Tom,
> Sorry for the bad information on this n.g..
> A lot of people here are very helpful but
> lack the years of experience to have a
> fully informed opinion.
> As for a good small planer, my choice is
> a Parks 15", or a Powermatic 15".
I have to agree with this. A solid cast iron planer is a must for any
woodworker. If you don't have one, you should not be in the hobby. Let's
face it a good shop needs good tools, so save up until you get about $15,000
to get started. Anything less is only going to buy useless junk.
To go with the planer, a DJ-30 12" jointer is the norm. Just about everone
here has that size, at leas the serious guys. The rest are a bunch of silly
guys that think they can get buy with wimpy 6" or 8" jointers. I hate to
bring it up to them, but I feel so bad when they waste their money on the
small stuff. I never buy lumber less than a food wide anywan. You just
never know when you will be called upon to make the wife an extra set of
shelves for the closet and if all you have is 8" mahogany, you'd have to
glue it up.
Hundreds of thousands or people bought some of the low end planers bcause
they only use them maybe once a month or so. Poor excuse to buy poorly made
tools. They'd have a lot more fun from the hobby if they had the right
eqpment. With the low interest rates on home equity loans today, there is
just no excuse to buy low end good.
As for table saws, you can find the 14" ones, but they are just not as
abundant as the 10" toys in the supply stores, Keep looking for that 7.5 HP
model with the three phase motor.
--
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
Hi Tom,
Sorry for the bad information on this n.g..
A lot of people here are very helpful but
lack the years of experience to have a
fully informed opinion.
As for a good small planer, my choice is
a Parks 15", or a Powermatic 15". Delta
also makes a good 13" planer. Always
buy a good quality cast iron unit. The portables
are really nothing more than toys and are
actually more expensive than a quality tool.
Poor quality planing, thin cut with many
repeated passes, sniping, and just wearing
out too soon make them a poor choice.
Instead of spending $350 for a portable, spend
$750 on a very nice used cast iron planer.
Long life, long duty cycle, and a good cut
make them a wise choice. When you're finished
with a portable, they are usually thrown away.
A cast iron planer can be resold for at least
what you paid for it.
The uninformed have always, without fail given
me grief for this stance, but my experience has
proven me correct. I no longer do the volume of
work I once produced but in spite of that I would
still choose the cast iron planer. Just good
common sense.
>Any suggestions on the best surface/thickness planer to purchase. I had a
>12" Jet for years. There are so many options out there now. I've been
>looking at the new DeWalt DW735 model, but I haven't seen any comparison
>reviews of this machine. Or, should I step up to a heavier 3hp model
>($900-$1100 range) or stay with the bench type? I'm a weekend woodworker
>who likes quality tools for making 3-4 pieces of furniture per year. Thanks
for any suggestions. Tom
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>Regardless of which speed you use you still need to go over the
surface with
>a scraper or sandpaper.
I use the slow speed exclusively on my DW735, and it is completely
shiny smooth. A light sanding with #220 is only needed if you want to
rough it up a little . . . I've yet to try the faster speed as the
slow works so well, and is plenty fast enough for me.
Cheers,
Scott
"DexAZ" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> For those of us scraping to get by, the DW735 is one _fine_ machine! (can
> not imagine trying to convince SWMBO that we need to spend $750 to get a
> _good_ planer.) Like most, I'd love to have a shop full of "big Iron" but
> my shop, like my bank account simply is not big enough. Therefore, the 735
> fits my needs perfectly.
>
> No snipe, built in chip blower and a glass smooth finish for $450...what
> more could I want? Oh yeah, forgot to mention, BOY is it ever yellow!!!
>
> DexAZ
Well, I do get SOME snipe with mine: about 0.003" Not a big deal,
and it's easily sanded. But if you want to cut your 1" board into 1"
strips, then rotate the strips 90 degrees and join them back together
in breadboard fashion, then you have a problem at the ends. I plan to
do this for the tops of my Mission bedroom set, essentially converting
flatsawn lumber into quarter-sawn. The result is pleasing, and I look
forward to getting started. But because I wanted to essentially use
it as a jointer, I was hoping for "no snipe" when I bought my 735.
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "DexAZ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > No snipe, built in chip blower and a glass smooth finish for $450...what
> > more could I want? Oh yeah, forgot to mention, BOY is it ever yellow!!!
>
> You realize of course that Dewalt makes their stuff yellow so you can find
> it in the mess of a workshop?
>
And in my shop that IS a definite plus!
DexAZ
Well, not really. The blade just isn't properly severing/ejecting the chip.
Thus the variable speed so that woods of several characteristics may be more
properly accommodated with a fixed sharpness angle. One size damn near fits
all, of course, but hand-planing or scraping is still preferred.
Slow feed rates and less-than-perfect knives can make for some tough
case-hardening. And a burnished surface looks great right up until the
point that you put some oil on it, revealing the differential absorption
between the burnished bottoms and torn edges.
"John Crea" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If you could run the planner wood feed rate SLOW ENOUGH the scalloped
> areas are essentially gone. You ONLY get scallops if the wood moves
> forward a greater distance than the next blade hitting cannot
> straighten out.
>
um, up, he was being facetious! Can't recognize humor? bummer...
dave
Upscale wrote:
> "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:%[email protected]...
>
>>To go with the planer, a DJ-30 12" jointer is the norm. Just about
>
> everone
>
>>here has that size, at leas the serious guys. The rest are a bunch of
>
> silly
>
>>guys that think they can get buy with wimpy 6" or 8" jointers. I hate to
>
>
> That's as about an arrogant statement as I've seen here. And learn how to
> spell you arrogant ass. It's "everyone" and "least" and "by" and that's in
> just one paragraph. There's over a dozen other errors in the rest. Your
> assumed arrogance is highly overrated.
>
>
"gabriel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Leon wrote:
>
> > I would look for one with an adjustable stop for various finished
> > thicknesses. Also I would not put much weight into a 2 speed feed
> > model unless getting a bigger stationary one. While the 2 speed in
> > the portables is cool, once a blade gets a nick in it, the slow speed
> > is a moot point.
>
> Uuuuhh, you could of course shift one of the blades to the side,
> eliminating the effect of the nick.
Regardless, you should still scrape or finish sand the surface.
> > > own blades I would prefer one without disposable blades. If you don't
> > sharpen your own blades, the cost of replacing the disposable ones and
> > having the permanent ones resharpened is just about a wash.
>
> Here's another take on the issue: I have the DW735 with disposable
> blades. I see the disposable blades as a plus for two reasons:
>
> 1) The blades are self-centering (at least on the DW735), which means I
> cannot make a mistake installing the blades, nor do I need an adjuster
> thingie, nor do I need to spend all that time getting it right: making
> test cuts, measuring, adjusting, testing again, etc... Apparently blade
> alignment is a big problem, given that there are so many devices out
> there for aligning blades. I'm just glad I do not have to deal with it.
I am using a 10" Ryobi that I bought in 1988... Blade change takes me 15
minutes and blade alignment is done outside the planer. Really no adjusting
at all. You bolt the blade to its carrier setting on a jig, then bolt the
blade to the planer. I think you may be seeing alignment devices for
jointers or stationary planers. I have never seen anything for portable
planers myself.
> 2) The blades are reversible, so when it is time to reverse them, it is a
> warning that you might need new blades sometime in the near future. In
> other words you are not left with your pants down in the middle of a
> project.
Unless they have already been reversed... ;~) For me that has never been
a problem anyway at least in the last 16 years.
> At a cost of $45 for a new set of reversible blades, I do not mind at
> all. I have had the DW735 for about 5-6 months now, and have not had to
> even reverse the blades yet.
I would hope not...
Granted, I am not running the planer 24x7,
> but my point is that $45 is inconsequential for a weekend warrior,
> specially if it saves me from all the issues around blade adjustment.
I think the alignment issues on portable planers may be blown up a bit...
> Of course, $45 is an even better deal if you have no sharpening equipment
> or skills. I certainly fall into this category.
The last I paid to have my blades sharpened I paid 45 cents an inch...
> > head lock should go without saying on the portable models and many
> > models now feature an automatic lock which would be preferable to the
> > manual locking ones.
>
> I'm only aware of one that locks automatically (the DW735).
Makita came out with one with this feature about 2 or 3 years ago. IIRC the
new Delta does also.
If you could run the planner wood feed rate SLOW ENOUGH the scalloped
areas are essentially gone. You ONLY get scallops if the wood moves
forward a greater distance than the next blade hitting cannot
straighten out.
With most planners, you have 1 or 2 speeds, and you take what you get.
Some of the more expensive planners have a infinitiely variable wood
feedrate, and for that last past you can crank it down where the wood
crawls thru the planner, and the scalloping is virutally non-existant
John
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 22:34:03 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Scott" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>
>> I use the slow speed exclusively on my DW735, and it is completely
>> shiny smooth. A light sanding with #220 is only needed if you want to
>> rough it up a little . . .
>
>If you are happy with that... but scraping and or sanding will help to
>smooth out the small scallops left by the blade. Granted they are very
>difficult to see but they are there and with some stains you may see them
>more easily.
>
Bay Area Dave wrote:
> Morris Dovey wrote:
>
>> Mike G wrote:
>>
>>> Hello anybody home? Does the word "sarcasm" ring any
>>> bells?
>>
>> 'Twould seem not today. Sarcasm doesn't seem to work very
>> well on usenet if unaccompanied by an appropriate emoticon
>> to remove any possible sting. If/when someone is having a
>> bad day it produces hurt feelings, angry responses, and
>> wasteful consumption of bandwidth - even when those involved
>> are friends. )-:
>
> MOrris, I can't count how many times my "smart aleck" remarks
> have been taken wrong. I'll be damned if I can always
> remember to put the smiley's in...
>
> So, yes, sarcasm doesn't work to well in print...
Well, welcome to the human race. Occasionally we all produce a
little scrap. I think the answer is to make the best repairs we
can, figure out how to avoid repeating the mistake, and move on.
I've never met a person who felt (or would admit to) having too
many friends. Forgiveness of others is a gift we give ourselves -
so be selfishly generous. Remember that people are ever so much
more fragile than wood or iron and need to be treated gently.
Practice by being gentle with yourself.
--
Morris Dovey
West Des Moines, Iowa USA
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Upscale, ;~) Edwin was just carrying out what Sbtypesetter had started.
> Something that sounded serious but ended up being ridiculous. He was
sorta
> making fun of sbtypesetter.
Well, then I missed it. Not the first time and it won't be the last.
Arrogant people drive me right up the tree and if Edwin was only joking
around, then I owe him an apology. I'll try to contain myself the next time.
Hello anybody home? Does the word "sarcasm" ring any bells?
--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:%[email protected]...
> > To go with the planer, a DJ-30 12" jointer is the norm. Just about
> everone
> > here has that size, at leas the serious guys. The rest are a bunch of
> silly
> > guys that think they can get buy with wimpy 6" or 8" jointers. I hate to
>
> That's as about an arrogant statement as I've seen here. And learn how to
> spell you arrogant ass. It's "everyone" and "least" and "by" and that's in
> just one paragraph. There's over a dozen other errors in the rest. Your
> assumed arrogance is highly overrated.
>
>
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:my4Xb.2610
>
> That's as about an arrogant statement as I've seen here. And learn how to
> spell you arrogant ass.
It is you that is the ass with no sense of humor. Please read the entire
post and take it in context and you will, hopefully, see that it is so
ludicrous that anyone with common sense can see it.
Get your head out of said ass. If you have followed my posts recently,
you'd know that I still do not have a jointer, let alone a 12" DJ-30
(although I did use one once.) When I do get one, it will be a 6", probably
a Bridgewood.
'Tis you that is arrogant. So what if my spell checker did not work on that
post? I don't feel demeaned by my mediocre typing skills when applied to
a USENET group.
Ed
While most of what you say is correct, remember that this is a recreation
group. The OP indicated that he had a 12" Jet for years, indicating that
his experience with his planer proves your opinion on life expectancy a moot
point. For making furniture 3 or 5 times a year as indicated by the OP a
stationary planer would most likely be a waste of money. I'd say that the
information or advice you are giving is neither worse or better than any one
else's. You apology of bad information on this news group on your part
seems to reek of arrogance.
The new DeWalt is the way to go if you want the best of cuts. It's 3 blade
configuration means that it's slowest speed provides just under twice the
cuts per inch than the two speed Delta's highest speed and CPI is the name
of the game.
As for whether you should get another bench top or a 3 HP, I'll pass you
wouldn't like my answer.
--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"takeith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:C%pWb.282006$na.445098@attbi_s04...
> Any suggestions on the best surface/thickness planer to purchase. I had a
> 12" Jet for years. There are so many options out there now. I've been
> looking at the new DeWalt DW735 model, but I haven't seen any comparison
> reviews of this machine. Or, should I step up to a heavier 3hp model
> ($900-$1100 range) or stay with the bench type? I'm a weekend woodworker
> who likes quality tools for making 3-4 pieces of furniture per year.
Thanks
> for any suggestions. Tom
>
>
Watch your in&outfeed support real close and I think you will reduce the
snipe to zero.
No planer is perfect, I guess, but the 735 is real close!
"Scott" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "DexAZ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > For those of us scraping to get by, the DW735 is one _fine_ machine!
(can
> > not imagine trying to convince SWMBO that we need to spend $750 to get a
> > _good_ planer.) Like most, I'd love to have a shop full of "big Iron"
but
> > my shop, like my bank account simply is not big enough. Therefore, the
735
> > fits my needs perfectly.
> >
> > No snipe, built in chip blower and a glass smooth finish for $450...what
> > more could I want? Oh yeah, forgot to mention, BOY is it ever yellow!!!
> >
> > DexAZ
>
> Well, I do get SOME snipe with mine: about 0.003" Not a big deal,
> and it's easily sanded. But if you want to cut your 1" board into 1"
> strips, then rotate the strips 90 degrees and join them back together
> in breadboard fashion, then you have a problem at the ends. I plan to
> do this for the tops of my Mission bedroom set, essentially converting
> flatsawn lumber into quarter-sawn. The result is pleasing, and I look
> forward to getting started. But because I wanted to essentially use
> it as a jointer, I was hoping for "no snipe" when I bought my 735.
Hi, Tom,
Sorry for the misinformation that sbt is handing out again. He's a real
maverick when it comes to planers. A "portable" planer like a Dewalt is
almost 100 lbs and very capable. He is woefully behind the times and
should be ignored. He is to cast planers what Rumpty is to RAS's. :)
The Dewalts don't give poor quality planing, or snipe. I've used my 733
for quite a few years and it's going strong.
dave
Sbtypesetter wrote:
> Hi Tom,
> Sorry for the bad information on this n.g..
> A lot of people here are very helpful but
> lack the years of experience to have a
> fully informed opinion.
> As for a good small planer, my choice is
> a Parks 15", or a Powermatic 15". Delta
> also makes a good 13" planer. Always
> buy a good quality cast iron unit. The portables
> are really nothing more than toys and are
> actually more expensive than a quality tool.
> Poor quality planing, thin cut with many
> repeated passes, sniping, and just wearing
> out too soon make them a poor choice.
> Instead of spending $350 for a portable, spend
> $750 on a very nice used cast iron planer.
> Long life, long duty cycle, and a good cut
> make them a wise choice. When you're finished
> with a portable, they are usually thrown away.
> A cast iron planer can be resold for at least
> what you paid for it.
> The uninformed have always, without fail given
> me grief for this stance, but my experience has
> proven me correct. I no longer do the volume of
> work I once produced but in spite of that I would
> still choose the cast iron planer. Just good
> common sense.
>
>
>>Any suggestions on the best surface/thickness planer to purchase. I had a
>>12" Jet for years. There are so many options out there now. I've been
>>looking at the new DeWalt DW735 model, but I haven't seen any comparison
>>reviews of this machine. Or, should I step up to a heavier 3hp model
>>($900-$1100 range) or stay with the bench type? I'm a weekend woodworker
>>who likes quality tools for making 3-4 pieces of furniture per year. Thanks
>
> for any suggestions. Tom
>
>
>
I would look for one with an adjustable stop for various finished
thicknesses. Also I would not put much weight into a 2 speed feed model
unless getting a bigger stationary one. While the 2 speed in the portables
is cool, once a blade gets a nick in it, the slow speed is a moot point.
Regardless of which speed you use you still need to go over the surface with
a scraper or sandpaper. Because I sharpen my own blades I would prefer one
without disposable blades. If you don't sharpen your own blades, the cost
of replacing the disposable ones and having the permanent ones resharpened
is just about a wash. A cutter head lock should go without saying on the
portable models and many models now feature an automatic lock which would be
preferable to the manual locking ones.
"takeith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:C%pWb.282006$na.445098@attbi_s04...
> Any suggestions on the best surface/thickness planer to purchase. I had a
> 12" Jet for years. There are so many options out there now. I've been
> looking at the new DeWalt DW735 model, but I haven't seen any comparison
> reviews of this machine. Or, should I step up to a heavier 3hp model
> ($900-$1100 range) or stay with the bench type? I'm a weekend woodworker
> who likes quality tools for making 3-4 pieces of furniture per year.
Thanks
> for any suggestions. Tom
>
>
MOrris, I can't count how many times my "smart aleck" remarks have been
taken wrong. I'll be damned if I can always remember to put the
smiley's in...
So, yes, sarcasm doesn't work to well in print...
dave
Morris Dovey wrote:
> Mike G wrote:
>
>> Hello anybody home? Does the word "sarcasm" ring any bells?
>
>
> 'Twould seem not today. Sarcasm doesn't seem to work very well on usenet
> if unaccompanied by an appropriate emoticon to remove any possible
> sting. If/when someone is having a bad day it produces hurt feelings,
> angry responses, and wasteful consumption of bandwidth - even when those
> involved are friends. )-:
>
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It is you that is the ass with no sense of humor. Please read the entire
> post and take it in context and you will, hopefully, see that it is so
> ludicrous that anyone with common sense can see it.
Nice try. There's too many idiots like you who throw around thinly veiled
insults under the guise of jokes and banter. Consider the joke returned to
you. And please understand Edwin, take this message as it's intended. It's
just a joke, I don't mean it, read between the lines, ok? How does it feel?
Sbtypesetter wrote:
> Sorry for the bad information on this n.g..
> A lot of people here are very helpful but
> lack the years of experience to have a
> fully informed opinion.
Well, years of experience and a closed mindset make you tend to not
accept other points of view, and blind you to technological advances.
> Poor quality planing, thin cut with many
> repeated passes, sniping, and just wearing
> out too soon make them a poor choice.
Care to substantiate that with hard evidence? If your only explanation
is that you've never had to use these "toys" because your "cast iron"
machines work so well, then you have made my point.
For example, what's so bad about a DW735 planer?
> Instead of spending $350 for a portable, spend
> $750 on a very nice used cast iron planer.
>[...]
> A cast iron planer can be resold for at least
> what you paid for it.
LOL! Wouldn't the OP be better off buying a new one then, if the used
one will cost at least what the old owner paid for it?
> The uninformed have always, without fail given
> me grief for this stance, but my experience has
> proven me correct.
I suspect you problem is in the delivery of your message, not in the
message itself (who could argue with "buy as much quality as you can
afford"?). No one likes an old, closed-minded codger.
--
gabriel
I have not personally used the 3HP models, but when I asked the same
questions, the impressions that I was left with was that the 15" stationary
units did not offer better quality of cut (perhaps less so), but they did
offer quicker stock removal, and of course, the extra couple of inches in
width.
As a weekend warrier myself, I could not justify double the cost for some
time savings and a minimal increase in width capacity.
I'm sure this big boys last longer, but is that significant for a hobbyist?
Just my 2 cents.
-Steve
"takeith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:C%pWb.282006$na.445098@attbi_s04...
> Any suggestions on the best surface/thickness planer to purchase. I had a
> 12" Jet for years. There are so many options out there now. I've been
> looking at the new DeWalt DW735 model, but I haven't seen any comparison
> reviews of this machine. Or, should I step up to a heavier 3hp model
> ($900-$1100 range) or stay with the bench type? I'm a weekend woodworker
> who likes quality tools for making 3-4 pieces of furniture per year.
Thanks
> for any suggestions. Tom
>
>
I run a portable Hitachi but would like a second, heavier, planer to do the bulk
of my work. That way I could keep my Hitachi tuned up real sweet for the light
finish work that it is really designed for. My guess is that it would stay
sharp longer last longer overall.
So this puts me in a good position to wait for a good deal on a quality used
piece of equipment at auction or similar.
Just some thoughts,
David
In article <C%pWb.282006$na.445098@attbi_s04>, takeith says...
>
>Any suggestions on the best surface/thickness planer to purchase. I had a
>12" Jet for years. There are so many options out there now. I've been
>looking at the new DeWalt DW735 model, but I haven't seen any comparison
>reviews of this machine. Or, should I step up to a heavier 3hp model
>($900-$1100 range) or stay with the bench type? I'm a weekend woodworker
>who likes quality tools for making 3-4 pieces of furniture per year. Thanks
>for any suggestions. Tom
>
>
Leon wrote:
> I would look for one with an adjustable stop for various finished
> thicknesses. Also I would not put much weight into a 2 speed feed
> model unless getting a bigger stationary one. While the 2 speed in
> the portables is cool, once a blade gets a nick in it, the slow speed
> is a moot point.
Uuuuhh, you could of course shift one of the blades to the side,
eliminating the effect of the nick.
> own blades I would prefer one without disposable blades. If you don't
> sharpen your own blades, the cost of replacing the disposable ones and
> having the permanent ones resharpened is just about a wash.
Here's another take on the issue: I have the DW735 with disposable
blades. I see the disposable blades as a plus for two reasons:
1) The blades are self-centering (at least on the DW735), which means I
cannot make a mistake installing the blades, nor do I need an adjuster
thingie, nor do I need to spend all that time getting it right: making
test cuts, measuring, adjusting, testing again, etc... Apparently blade
alignment is a big problem, given that there are so many devices out
there for aligning blades. I'm just glad I do not have to deal with it.
2) The blades are reversible, so when it is time to reverse them, it is a
warning that you might need new blades sometime in the near future. In
other words you are not left with your pants down in the middle of a
project.
At a cost of $45 for a new set of reversible blades, I do not mind at
all. I have had the DW735 for about 5-6 months now, and have not had to
even reverse the blades yet. Granted, I am not running the planer 24x7,
but my point is that $45 is inconsequential for a weekend warrior,
specially if it saves me from all the issues around blade adjustment.
Of course, $45 is an even better deal if you have no sharpening equipment
or skills. I certainly fall into this category.
> head lock should go without saying on the portable models and many
> models now feature an automatic lock which would be preferable to the
> manual locking ones.
I'm only aware of one that locks automatically (the DW735).
--
gabriel
In this case some imbecile looming! That would be my Son In Law. Not by
choice either!!
--
"Cartoons don't have any deep meaning.
They're just stupid drawings that give you a cheap laugh."
Homer Simpson
Jerry© The Phoneman®
"gabriel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Jerry Gilreath wrote:
>
> > it. I did have to replace my infeed roller after I let SIL use it.
> > Just my opinion.
>
> SIL? Someone In Lingerie? Some Idiot Lurking? Some In-Law?
>
> What does "SIL" mean?
>
> --
> gabriel
Mike G wrote:
> Hello anybody home? Does the word "sarcasm" ring any bells?
'Twould seem not today. Sarcasm doesn't seem to work very well on
usenet if unaccompanied by an appropriate emoticon to remove any
possible sting. If/when someone is having a bad day it produces
hurt feelings, angry responses, and wasteful consumption of
bandwidth - even when those involved are friends. )-:
--
Morris Dovey
West Des Moines, Iowa USA
C links at http://www.iedu.com/c
Read my lips: The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
"DexAZ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> No snipe, built in chip blower and a glass smooth finish for $450...what
> more could I want? Oh yeah, forgot to mention, BOY is it ever yellow!!!
You realize of course that Dewalt makes their stuff yellow so you can find
it in the mess of a workshop?
oups!!!
I hope your daugther is happy with him in that case...otherwise it is very
sad....
--
Mike
"Jerry Gilreath" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
news:fyyWb.9296$jk2.25493@attbi_s53...
> In this case some imbecile looming! That would be my Son In Law. Not by
> choice either!!
>
> --
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:%[email protected]...
> To go with the planer, a DJ-30 12" jointer is the norm. Just about
everone
> here has that size, at leas the serious guys. The rest are a bunch of
silly
> guys that think they can get buy with wimpy 6" or 8" jointers. I hate to
That's as about an arrogant statement as I've seen here. And learn how to
spell you arrogant ass. It's "everyone" and "least" and "by" and that's in
just one paragraph. There's over a dozen other errors in the rest. Your
assumed arrogance is highly overrated.
Well, I like my Ridgid 13". Like Gabriel, I like the 2 sided blade feature.
When I have to switch to the second side, I've still got plenty of time to
get a set of replacement blades. FWIW, the head lock on mine is manual,
right underneath the height adjustment wheel. I've had mine for about 5
years now, and I now have my 3rd set of blades in it. I did have to replace
my infeed roller after I let SIL use it. Just my opinion.
--
"Cartoons don't have any deep meaning.
They're just stupid drawings that give you a cheap laugh."
Homer Simpson
Jerry© The Phoneman®
"Scott" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
>
> >Regardless of which speed you use you still need to go over the
> surface with
> >a scraper or sandpaper.
>
> I use the slow speed exclusively on my DW735, and it is completely
> shiny smooth. A light sanding with #220 is only needed if you want to
> rough it up a little . . . I've yet to try the faster speed as the
> slow works so well, and is plenty fast enough for me.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Scott
For those of us scraping to get by, the DW735 is one _fine_ machine! (can
not imagine trying to convince SWMBO that we need to spend $750 to get a
_good_ planer.) Like most, I'd love to have a shop full of "big Iron" but
my shop, like my bank account simply is not big enough. Therefore, the 735
fits my needs perfectly.
No snipe, built in chip blower and a glass smooth finish for $450...what
more could I want? Oh yeah, forgot to mention, BOY is it ever yellow!!!
DexAZ
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi, Tom,
>
> Sorry for the misinformation that sbt is handing out again. He's a real
> maverick when it comes to planers. A "portable" planer like a Dewalt is
> almost 100 lbs and very capable. He is woefully behind the times and
> should be ignored. He is to cast planers what Rumpty is to RAS's. :)
>
> The Dewalts don't give poor quality planing, or snipe. I've used my 733
> for quite a few years and it's going strong.
>
> dave
>
> Sbtypesetter wrote:
>
> > Hi Tom,
> > Sorry for the bad information on this n.g..
> > A lot of people here are very helpful but
> > lack the years of experience to have a
> > fully informed opinion.
> > As for a good small planer, my choice is
> > a Parks 15", or a Powermatic 15". Delta
> > also makes a good 13" planer. Always
> > buy a good quality cast iron unit. The portables
> > are really nothing more than toys and are
> > actually more expensive than a quality tool.
> > Poor quality planing, thin cut with many
> > repeated passes, sniping, and just wearing
> > out too soon make them a poor choice.
> > Instead of spending $350 for a portable, spend
> > $750 on a very nice used cast iron planer.
> > Long life, long duty cycle, and a good cut
> > make them a wise choice. When you're finished
> > with a portable, they are usually thrown away.
> > A cast iron planer can be resold for at least
> > what you paid for it.
> > The uninformed have always, without fail given
> > me grief for this stance, but my experience has
> > proven me correct. I no longer do the volume of
> > work I once produced but in spite of that I would
> > still choose the cast iron planer. Just good
> > common sense.
> >
> >
> >>Any suggestions on the best surface/thickness planer to purchase. I had
a
> >>12" Jet for years. There are so many options out there now. I've been
> >>looking at the new DeWalt DW735 model, but I haven't seen any comparison
> >>reviews of this machine. Or, should I step up to a heavier 3hp model
> >>($900-$1100 range) or stay with the bench type? I'm a weekend
woodworker
> >>who likes quality tools for making 3-4 pieces of furniture per year.
Thanks
> >
> > for any suggestions. Tom
> >
> >
> >
>
I really like my DeWalt...now they do have the same with three cutter
head....without the two speed selector you still have a huge amount of cuts
per inch.
If it was me, my money would go on this one.
--
Mike
"takeith" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
news:C%pWb.282006$na.445098@attbi_s04...
> Any suggestions on the best surface/thickness planer to purchase. I had a
> 12" Jet for years. There are so many options out there now. I've been
> looking at the new DeWalt DW735 model, but I haven't seen any comparison
> reviews of this machine. Or, should I step up to a heavier 3hp model
> ($900-$1100 range) or stay with the bench type? I'm a weekend woodworker
> who likes quality tools for making 3-4 pieces of furniture per year.
Thanks
> for any suggestions. Tom
>
>
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 15:16:09 GMT, "Upscale" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> It is you that is the ass with no sense of humor. Please read the entire
>> post and take it in context and you will, hopefully, see that it is so
>> ludicrous that anyone with common sense can see it.
>
>Nice try. There's too many idiots like you who throw around thinly veiled
>insults under the guise of jokes and banter. Consider the joke returned to
>you. And please understand Edwin, take this message as it's intended. It's
>just a joke, I don't mean it, read between the lines, ok? How does it feel?
>
ummmm.... upscale?
I got it the first time around, no problem, and I'm known for being
especially dense.
lighten up, dude.
"Scott" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I use the slow speed exclusively on my DW735, and it is completely
> shiny smooth. A light sanding with #220 is only needed if you want to
> rough it up a little . . .
If you are happy with that... but scraping and or sanding will help to
smooth out the small scallops left by the blade. Granted they are very
difficult to see but they are there and with some stains you may see them
more easily.
If you live near a Rockler store, some of the stores have the Dewalt finish
planer (about the equivalent of the Dewalt 735) on sale for $349.
Bob
"takeith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:C%pWb.282006$na.445098@attbi_s04...
> Any suggestions on the best surface/thickness planer to purchase. I had a
> 12" Jet for years. There are so many options out there now. I've been
> looking at the new DeWalt DW735 model, but I haven't seen any comparison
> reviews of this machine. Or, should I step up to a heavier 3hp model
> ($900-$1100 range) or stay with the bench type? I'm a weekend woodworker
> who likes quality tools for making 3-4 pieces of furniture per year.
Thanks
> for any suggestions. Tom
>
>
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:%[email protected]...
> > To go with the planer, a DJ-30 12" jointer is the norm. Just about
> everone
> > here has that size, at leas the serious guys. The rest are a bunch of
> silly
> > guys that think they can get buy with wimpy 6" or 8" jointers. I hate to
>
> That's as about an arrogant statement as I've seen here. And learn how to
> spell you arrogant ass. It's "everyone" and "least" and "by" and that's in
> just one paragraph. There's over a dozen other errors in the rest. Your
> assumed arrogance is highly overrated.
>
>
That Mepps Spinner *does* complement your jawline:)