Thanks Frank,
I just set it up to run with Outlook Express. Easy install.
Denny
"Frank McVey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi CW,
>
> Read David Eisan's FAQ on troll posts, especially wrt NewsProxy. This is
a
> small filtering program which intercepts news posts from the server,
filters
> them and passes them on to your newsreader. It is now hosted by Robert
> Bonomi and you can download it from him at:
>
> http://www.r-bonomi.com/rec.woodworking/index.html
>
> I'm no computer expert, but by shamelessly plagiarising David's suggested
> filters and Robert's latest filters, it does a very effective job of
> blocking the current crop of clowns.
>
> It's not that hard to set up and doesn't seem to compromise performance at
> all. I use it with Outlook Express, but Robert reckons it works with most
> MS/Windows newsreaders.
>
> It really is worth the effort.
>
> HTH
>
> Frank
>
>
>
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>
In article <[email protected]>, CW
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I am using Outlook (not express). Is there some way I can block this dizum
> fool?
Framk's given you a good response. I've sent you an email with the
specifics on what works for me (non-Windows).
djb
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In article <[email protected]>, Tom Veatch
<[email protected]> wrote:
> That's assuming an Intel
> based machine (or virtual machine) at least.
With Mac OS x (which is BSD Unix based) there are similar tools, but
they are also Unix based and I haven't sorted them out yet.
But bottom line is there are tools available for Windows, Linux and Mac
OS X that will allow one to filter the crap.
djb
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to it."
That does not block the CORRECT person does it? Does that not block the
putz and the person that he is impersonating?
"Kyle Boatright" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Click on an offending message, then choose the "message" drop down at the
> top of the screen and choose "Block sender".
>
>
> "CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I am using Outlook (not express). Is there some way I can block this
dizum
> > fool?
> >
> >
>
>
>
Yes, that's the problem.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> That does not block the CORRECT person does it? Does that not block the
> putz and the person that he is impersonating?
>
>
In article <[email protected]>,
Han <[email protected]> wrote:
>"Frank McVey" <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> Hi CW,
>>
>> Read David Eisan's FAQ on troll posts, especially wrt NewsProxy. This
>> is a small filtering program which intercepts news posts from the
>> server, filters them and passes them on to your newsreader. It is now
>> hosted by Robert Bonomi and you can download it from him at:
>>
>> http://www.r-bonomi.com/rec.woodworking/index.html
>>
>> I'm no computer expert, but by shamelessly plagiarising David's
>> suggested filters and Robert's latest filters, it does a very
>> effective job of blocking the current crop of clowns.
>>
>> It's not that hard to set up and doesn't seem to compromise
>> performance at all. I use it with Outlook Express, but Robert reckons
>> it works with most MS/Windows newsreaders.
>>
>> It really is worth the effort.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Frank
>>
>I am running with some basic filtering, after I got the program finally
>installed. I am just thoroughly confused by the *.bin files. How are
>they converted into language for the nfilter.dat file?
>
For the ones from www.r-bonomi.com/rec.woodworking/ simply _rename_ them.
All they are is text files. *exactly* what you see on the screen if you
view the filter set on the web-page.
The 'download' links are named as '.bin' so that web browsers will _not_
try to display the contents on screen, but automatically download to disk.
If you 'look at' the filter sets on the web-site, the directions are at
the beginning of the file. Obviously, they're _inside_ the '.bin' file,
too, but you have to know how to look at the downloaded file, before you
can see that.
Doesn't work for this situation.
"Kyle Boatright" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Click on an offending message, then choose the "message" drop down at the
> top of the screen and choose "Block sender".
>
>
> "CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I am using Outlook (not express). Is there some way I can block this
dizum
> > fool?
> >
> >
>
>
Click on an offending message, then choose the "message" drop down at the
top of the screen and choose "Block sender".
"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am using Outlook (not express). Is there some way I can block this dizum
> fool?
>
>
"Frank McVey" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Hi CW,
>
> Read David Eisan's FAQ on troll posts, especially wrt NewsProxy. This
> is a small filtering program which intercepts news posts from the
> server, filters them and passes them on to your newsreader. It is now
> hosted by Robert Bonomi and you can download it from him at:
>
> http://www.r-bonomi.com/rec.woodworking/index.html
>
> I'm no computer expert, but by shamelessly plagiarising David's
> suggested filters and Robert's latest filters, it does a very
> effective job of blocking the current crop of clowns.
>
> It's not that hard to set up and doesn't seem to compromise
> performance at all. I use it with Outlook Express, but Robert reckons
> it works with most MS/Windows newsreaders.
>
> It really is worth the effort.
>
> HTH
>
> Frank
>
I am running with some basic filtering, after I got the program finally
installed. I am just thoroughly confused by the *.bin files. How are
they converted into language for the nfilter.dat file?
(I feel stupid)
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
[email protected] (Robert Bonomi) wrote in news:7b36a$408b0d8c
[email protected]:
> If you 'look at' the filter sets on the web-site, the directions are at
> the beginning of the file. Obviously, they're _inside_ the '.bin' file,
> too, but you have to know how to look at the downloaded file, before you
> can see that.
>
Thanks Robert, much obliged!
Thanks to Frank as well!
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:28:45 -0400, Kyle Boatright <[email protected]> wrote:
> Click on an offending message, then choose the "message" drop down at the
> top of the screen and choose "Block sender".
That blocks the people being impersonated as well, allowing said problem
people to more effectively disrupt the group. In all honesty, Outlook
isn't very well suited for reading Usenet, many other programs out there
have much better capabilities (including blocking troublesome senders
while not blocking the people they're imitating).
Hi CW,
Read David Eisan's FAQ on troll posts, especially wrt NewsProxy. This is a
small filtering program which intercepts news posts from the server, filters
them and passes them on to your newsreader. It is now hosted by Robert
Bonomi and you can download it from him at:
http://www.r-bonomi.com/rec.woodworking/index.html
I'm no computer expert, but by shamelessly plagiarising David's suggested
filters and Robert's latest filters, it does a very effective job of
blocking the current crop of clowns.
It's not that hard to set up and doesn't seem to compromise performance at
all. I use it with Outlook Express, but Robert reckons it works with most
MS/Windows newsreaders.
It really is worth the effort.
HTH
Frank
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"Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Frank McVey" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
> I am running with some basic filtering, after I got the program finally
> installed. I am just thoroughly confused by the *.bin files. How are
> they converted into language for the nfilter.dat file?
<snip>
Hi, Han.
I didn't really download the .bin files. NP uses a .dat file, which is
basically a text file. If you're using basic filtering, then you'll already
have set NFilter.dat file up.
All I did was to open nfilter.dat by maximising NP, selecting >Edit >
Filters from the menu bar. You'll see the lines of text in Notepad (if
that's your default text editor).
Then you click on the .bin file download link- for example, on Robert's
website you'll see as part of para 4 :
<Quote>
Robert Bonomi's filter sets:
The basic filters Last update: Apr 9 03:15 (download)
a conservative set of filters that drops messages originating from
"anonymous remailers" and other identified troll-only sources. Also drops
anything posted to four or more newsgroups. <Unquote>
If you click on the (download) link, it opens a text file containg the
filter information. By simply copying and and pasting this text into the
nfilter.dat text file you already have open for NP in Notepad, then saving
it, you have added that series of filters to the .dat file. Do the same for
the other filters Robert suggests. You don't really have to understand how
they work, only how to copy them into your nfilter.dat text file. Note that
you don't really have to copy any lines with a # symbol in front of them -
these are simply comment lines, written by the author to let you know what
he's doing - the program doesn't use them.
The only other thing to note is that nfilter doesn't like to see blank lines
in its .dat file. Delete any that you might have introduced as part of your
pasting process. The file should consist of a solid block of text, no
blanks.
Don't forget to save it when you've finished editing it.
> (I feel stupid)
Nah, not at all - it took me a bit of figuring, digging and seeking advice
before I got it to work. The majority of us on this ng are woodworkers, not
computer whizzes, but I'm very grateful to those who do know something about
it and are prepared to help the rest of us out.
Come back if you still have problems. Not guaranteeing that I can fix it,
but there certainly will be other people who can - there's a world of talent
on this ng.
Best of luck,
Frank
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 16:55:37 -0600, Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote:
>
> With Mac OS x (which is BSD Unix based) there are similar tools, but
> they are also Unix based and I haven't sorted them out yet.
I'm using "slrn" as a newsreader on OSX, which has very configurable
killfiles (score files). Watch for (blah) in (place) and (act).
Pretty much any newsreading software should be able to do that, but
you may have to use something intended specifically for News, rather than
an email or browser tool that "also works with news".
> But bottom line is there are tools available for Windows, Linux and Mac
> OS X that will allow one to filter the crap.
Yup.
Dave Hinz
CW If Outlook has the same filters as OE, you can use the filter for news
groups to filter this out.
You do have to run this step manually and choose the news group but it works
well.
Simply choose to look at the header or title and to look for certain words
and make the list as big as you want. For the special characters simply
copy the word and its special character and past in into the filter list.
"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yes, that's the problem.
>
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > That does not block the CORRECT person does it? Does that not block the
> > putz and the person that he is impersonating?
> >
> >
>
>
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 18:53:23 +0000 (UTC), "Frank McVey" <[email protected]> wrote:
=snip=
>
>It's not that hard to set up and doesn't seem to compromise performance at
>all. I use it with Outlook Express, but Robert reckons it works with most
>MS/Windows newsreaders.
>
>It really is worth the effort.
>
I'll testify to the fact that it works flawlessly with Agent on Windows XP Pro. Its method of operation is such that I see no reason
it wouldn't work for any newsreader that allows you to specify the name or address of the news server. That's assuming an Intel
based machine (or virtual machine) at least. I don't know enough about the code to know if it makes calls to the Windows API and
requires a Windows OS.
Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS USA