Hi Edwin, I agree totally, no way would I not put either a reserve or a min.
starting price on something of value. They can bid on it if they want to,
if not, don't bid on it. I guess just another case of ppl. wanting
something for nothing.
Tony
Edwin Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:P%[email protected]...
> rhncue wrote:
> > I agree with Joe 1000%. If an item has a reserve I won't bid and
> > I never look at it again. Got no time for silly games.
> > Dick
> >
>
> I don't think I completely agree. If something has a reserve of $100 but
is
> truly worth $1000, you may be missing a good deal by not bidding an honest
> $200 or $500 up front..
>
> Maybe someone that has been selling on eBay can give some insight.
>
> Let's say you have a widget that cost $500 new, has little use, and you
> really want to get a minimum of $300 for it. It is worth at least that
> amount, probably more. You post it to eBay and the only bid you get is
$20.
> Do you really want to let it go for that? Of course not. Perhaps you just
> did not get the traffic looking for widgets this week. Should you be
forced
> to sell at an unrealistic low price?
>
> So, do you set a minimum of $250 or $300 or do you set a reserve. If the
> minimum is set, people will hesitate to bit hoing to nab it for that price
> at the end. --OR-- do you set a reserve and hope the bidding gets pushed
up
> to even higher amounts.
>
> I've not tried selling anything on eBay, but if I did, I'd want to h ave a
> minimum on valuable items. Peddling "yard sale" stuff for $20 would not
be
> a big deal, but cars, machines, etc, is a big deal.
> Ed
> [email protected]
> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
>
>
LOL!
dave
Mike in Mystic wrote:
> Unisaw gray, of course.
>
> "Tony" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>What color is your Enzo?
>>Mike in Mystic <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>Yes, it is. Just not favorably hehe :)
>>>
>>>A Ford Taurus is a car. A Ferrari Enzo is also a car. Are they
>>
>>comparable?
>>
>>>;-)
>>>
>>>"Tony" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>>It is comparable, is it not?
>>>>
>>>>Tony
>>>>Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>>>I noticed a little "puffery" in your ad Tony. Comparing it to the
>>>>>Powermatic? tsk tsk.
>>>>>
>>>>>dave
>>>>>
>>>>>Tony wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi, I have my bandsaw for sale on ebay, if anyone is interested.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.tinyurl.com/25j99
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks.......
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Unisaw gray, of course.
"Tony" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What color is your Enzo?
> Mike in Mystic <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Yes, it is. Just not favorably hehe :)
> >
> > A Ford Taurus is a car. A Ferrari Enzo is also a car. Are they
> comparable?
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > "Tony" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > It is comparable, is it not?
> > >
> > > Tony
> > > Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > I noticed a little "puffery" in your ad Tony. Comparing it to the
> > > > Powermatic? tsk tsk.
> > > >
> > > > dave
> > > >
> > > > Tony wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi, I have my bandsaw for sale on ebay, if anyone is interested.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.tinyurl.com/25j99
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.......
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Greetings and Salutations....
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 01:07:43 -0500, "Tony" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I really don't appreciate the insinuation, I don't know who the bidder
>is./....
>Edwin Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Myxylplyk wrote:
>>
>> >
*snip*.
Sigh...don't take it personally, Tony...it is the way
of the Net. Folks tend to be a bit suspicious, and, rather blunter
than they might be in person. I don't think that Tony is
misrepresenting the saw in any way, or is trying to screw anyone.
Of course, that opening bid of $300 WILL scare off the folks
that want to STEAL the bloody saw!
For those of you that are concerned...Tell you what...
Send me a payment of $30 and a list of things you
want checked, and I will be happy ( If Tony is willing) to stop
by...look at them...and send you a notorized report. Cashier's
checks and money orders preferred. Paypal accepted...
As for Ebay...I don't so much mind reserve prices...
although it can be annoying. I do find, though, that a moderate
reserve, and, starting bidding off at $1.00 is a great way to
engender bidding interest. I am given to understand that
if an item with a reserve does not sell, that some private Emails
between an interested party and the seller can produce a
result satisfactory to both.
Regards
Dave Mundt
>Just for the record, while I know people that are happy with hErBAY,
>I know more that have been raped buying crap. Always their fault sure, but anyone
>willing to gamble on that "system" needs a good Vaseline supply anyway.
>
I'm surprised that you know "more" that have been raped that those
that are happy. If that were the case I believe eBay would be out of
business. I've done hundreds of transactions and sold everything from
$1.00 to a $10,000 disassembled building. I have 100% feedback so
obviously I've never stuck it to anyone and I've only been screwed one
time for $20.00. It's become a better vehicle for selling than buying
as good deals are hard to come by now but I still find an occasional
"bargain". All in all I've been very happy with it and so have most of
the folks I know who have participated (but you do need to use
caution).
"Tony" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi, I have my bandsaw for sale on ebay, if anyone is interested.
>
> http://www.tinyurl.com/25j99
>
I see the usual ebbbyyyy BS is in full swing on this little "gem".
One bid, $300....hmmmmm
From a first timer that created his account when...oh yeah...today...
Pretty sleezy tony
Myx
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<P%[email protected]>...
> rhncue wrote:
> > I agree with Joe 1000%. If an item has a reserve I won't bid and
> > I never look at it again. Got no time for silly games.
> > Dick
> >
>
> I don't think I completely agree. If something has a reserve of $100 but is
> truly worth $1000, you may be missing a good deal by not bidding an honest
> $200 or $500 up front..
>
> Maybe someone that has been selling on eBay can give some insight.
>
> Let's say you have a widget that cost $500 new, has little use, and you
> really want to get a minimum of $300 for it. It is worth at least that
> amount, probably more. You post it to eBay and the only bid you get is $20.
> Do you really want to let it go for that? Of course not. Perhaps you just
> did not get the traffic looking for widgets this week. Should you be forced
> to sell at an unrealistic low price?
The only reason to have a reserve is if you want to generate lots of
views of the listing and maybe some bidding interest by starting the
bid way below what you think is fair market value. As both a seller
and a buyer I'd rather have the auction start somewhere at or near
fair value. As a seller, starting at a fair price keeps the
moron-bidder factor down --- yeah right bidder really thought you'd
get that Uni for $96.50? either bidder is playing around or stupid and
either way I probably don't want to sell to them. As a bidder, I'd
rather not play games and waste my time --- if the seller's notion of
fair market value (encoded in the reservce) is out of line I don't
want to buy from them.
>
> So, do you set a minimum of $250 or $300 or do you set a reserve. If the
> minimum is set, people will hesitate to bit hoing to nab it for that price
> at the end. --OR-- do you set a reserve and hope the bidding gets pushed up
> to even higher amounts.
That's the theory.
>
> I've not tried selling anything on eBay, but if I did, I'd want to h ave a
> minimum on valuable items. Peddling "yard sale" stuff for $20 would not be
> a big deal, but cars, machines, etc, is a big deal.
Agreed, for trinkets who cares -- you can't lose much. On the other
hand I've sold over hundred items at about $500 per and bought things
up at up $5-6k -- at those levels you want to deal with people who are
straight forward,
hex
-30-
> Ed
> [email protected]
> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
[email protected] (Dave Mundt) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Greetings and Salutations....
>
*snip*
> I am given to understand that
> if an item with a reserve does not sell, that some private Emails
> between an interested party and the seller can produce a
> result satisfactory to both.
That was a bothersome sentence on many levels. It does happen but the
following should be mentioned 1) it's against the E-bay terms of
service and if found out is grounds for throwing both the buy and
seller out 2) it's dishonest -- I'm not saying that E-bay is some
benevolent charity that needs support but for every "didn't make
reserve, sell it using harvested e-mails" they lose final value fees
and have to pass that loss on to *MY* fees as seller. Definitely
another case where the honest guys get screwed again.
hex
-30-
It is comparable, is it not?
Tony
Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I noticed a little "puffery" in your ad Tony. Comparing it to the
> Powermatic? tsk tsk.
>
> dave
>
> Tony wrote:
>
> > Hi, I have my bandsaw for sale on ebay, if anyone is interested.
> >
> > http://www.tinyurl.com/25j99
> >
> > Thanks.......
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
I really don't appreciate the insinuation, I don't know who the bidder
is./....
Edwin Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Myxylplyk wrote:
>
> > hmm
> > Just for the record, while I know people that are happy with hErBAY,
> > I know more that have been raped buying crap. Always their fault
> > sure, but anyone willing to gamble on that "system" needs a good
> > Vaseline supply anyway.
>
> I've bought a dozen items, most expensive was $100. Every one wa s a good
> deal and as stated in the listing. Maybe I've been lucky, but I've also
> been cautious. There are many things I'll pass on. I even passed on the
> engine head line that started at $12,000,000 even though it would have
been
> a good price if not bid up.
>
> >
> > I was only making the point that this "bandsaw" is a $300 pig in a
> > poke...unseen, untouched
> > with only someon's word that you never met it has some value.
>
> Agreed.
>
> > Add to that a first bid by a "user" that just opened an account today
> > and it still smells fishy.
>
> Just a guess, but the guy was probably covering his ass, or so he thought.
> I've bid on items early on and dropped out early on. I've gotten a couple
> of bargains that way, like a book for $5 that should normally have gone
for
> $20. The seller lost out, but I'm sure his family is not destitute
because
> of it. OTOH, if a was the only bidder at $5 for an expensive tool with no
> reserve, the seller may hurt a bit.
> --
> Ed
> [email protected]
> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
>
>
I wouldn't have gone as far as to say it was sleazy. He could put a
reserve on it of $300. He could start it at $300. He could start it at
something less and submit his own bid of $300 (not allowed per eBay
rules). All three get the auction to the same point which is if you
want it you have to pay at least $300. Seems like a reasonable price
for it.
Good catch on the new buyer that just registered today. It could be a
legit buyer, but it sure seems coincidental. If it's the seller it
could backfire. Some buyers won't bid if someone else has already bid
so it could scare someone away rather than trying to indicate interest.
--
Larry C in Auburn WA
"Myxylplyk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Tony" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hi, I have my bandsaw for sale on ebay, if anyone is interested.
> >
> > http://www.tinyurl.com/25j99
> >
>
> I see the usual ebbbyyyy BS is in full swing on this little "gem".
>
> One bid, $300....hmmmmm
> From a first timer that created his account when...oh yeah...today...
>
> Pretty sleezy tony
>
>
> Myx
>
>
>
rhncue wrote:
> I agree with Joe 1000%. If an item has a reserve I won't bid and
> I never look at it again. Got no time for silly games.
> Dick
>
I don't think I completely agree. If something has a reserve of $100 but is
truly worth $1000, you may be missing a good deal by not bidding an honest
$200 or $500 up front..
Maybe someone that has been selling on eBay can give some insight.
Let's say you have a widget that cost $500 new, has little use, and you
really want to get a minimum of $300 for it. It is worth at least that
amount, probably more. You post it to eBay and the only bid you get is $20.
Do you really want to let it go for that? Of course not. Perhaps you just
did not get the traffic looking for widgets this week. Should you be forced
to sell at an unrealistic low price?
So, do you set a minimum of $250 or $300 or do you set a reserve. If the
minimum is set, people will hesitate to bit hoing to nab it for that price
at the end. --OR-- do you set a reserve and hope the bidding gets pushed up
to even higher amounts.
I've not tried selling anything on eBay, but if I did, I'd want to h ave a
minimum on valuable items. Peddling "yard sale" stuff for $20 would not be
a big deal, but cars, machines, etc, is a big deal.
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
Tony wrote:
> I really don't appreciate the insinuation, I don't know who the bidder
> is./....
Neither do we. OTOH, if I put a bandaw on eBay, I'd want to cover my ass
somehow.
Any time you post in a public forum, you are subject to many opinions, be
they right or wrong. Most of the time it is best just to chuckle at them
and move on. The followups were more general comments about the auction
media that a personal attack on you and your auction. Yours just happend
tobe the example.
Good luck selling it and I really do hope you get a good price.
--
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
Thank you Edwin. $300 is fine with me, if it brings more, that's fine, if
not, that's fine to.......
Tony
Edwin Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Tony wrote:
> > I really don't appreciate the insinuation, I don't know who the bidder
> > is./....
>
> Neither do we. OTOH, if I put a bandaw on eBay, I'd want to cover my ass
> somehow.
>
> Any time you post in a public forum, you are subject to many opinions, be
> they right or wrong. Most of the time it is best just to chuckle at them
> and move on. The followups were more general comments about the auction
> media that a personal attack on you and your auction. Yours just happend
> tobe the example.
>
> Good luck selling it and I really do hope you get a good price.
> --
> Ed
> [email protected]
> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
>
>
Easy boys. I have the same band saw, plus the riser block.
It does look rather new. Don't know why it needs a tuneup, but if
it's nothing serious, $300 is a good price, and I don't see anything
about "reserve not met". The reserves piss me off more than anything.
What type of game is that? Let us know the starting price and have
at it.
Joe
>
> One bid, $300....hmmmmm
> From a first timer that created his account when...oh yeah...today...
>
> Pretty sleezy tony
>
>
> Myx
I agree. I don't mind seeing the Ebay posts here. On the other hand,
be prepared for people to comment on your product, since that's what
we do here.
Joe
>
> Tony,
>
> First off, lighten up or stop posting eBay auctions here on
> the wreck (1).
>
> Second, the people who are casting the aspersions, they
> ain't your public. The people who are looking at your
> auction, they don't give a shit what anyone else says. They
> only want to find the deal of the century.
>
> Third, lighten up. We don't know you, we don't know where
> you live and the truth of the matter is, we will have
> forgotten you by this time next week.
>
> (1) This is not an encouragement to stop posting auctions.
> She-it and boy howdy you'd have to be a fool to not post
> your auctions here. You can double the number on your hit
> counter by posting the auction here.
>
> UA100
I really don't appreciate my ethics being called in to question, not one
bit!! I have no idea who the bidder is on the bandsaw. I take care of my
equipment, I don't trash it like some ppl.
Larry C <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I wouldn't have gone as far as to say it was sleazy. He could put a
> reserve on it of $300. He could start it at $300. He could start it at
> something less and submit his own bid of $300 (not allowed per eBay
> rules). All three get the auction to the same point which is if you
> want it you have to pay at least $300. Seems like a reasonable price
> for it.
>
> Good catch on the new buyer that just registered today. It could be a
> legit buyer, but it sure seems coincidental. If it's the seller it
> could backfire. Some buyers won't bid if someone else has already bid
> so it could scare someone away rather than trying to indicate interest.
>
> --
> Larry C in Auburn WA
> "Myxylplyk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Tony" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Hi, I have my bandsaw for sale on ebay, if anyone is interested.
> > >
> > > http://www.tinyurl.com/25j99
> > >
> >
> > I see the usual ebbbyyyy BS is in full swing on this little "gem".
> >
> > One bid, $300....hmmmmm
> > From a first timer that created his account when...oh yeah...today...
> >
> > Pretty sleezy tony
> >
> >
> > Myx
> >
> >
> >
>
"Tony" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> It is comparable, is it not?
>
Tony,
It doesn't have the little air blower thingy so how could it be
comparable. Just that it has the same frame, wheels, pullies,
bearings, etc is irrelevant.
Rich
What color is your Enzo?
Mike in Mystic <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yes, it is. Just not favorably hehe :)
>
> A Ford Taurus is a car. A Ferrari Enzo is also a car. Are they
comparable?
>
> ;-)
>
> "Tony" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > It is comparable, is it not?
> >
> > Tony
> > Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I noticed a little "puffery" in your ad Tony. Comparing it to the
> > > Powermatic? tsk tsk.
> > >
> > > dave
> > >
> > > Tony wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi, I have my bandsaw for sale on ebay, if anyone is interested.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.tinyurl.com/25j99
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.......
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Myxylplyk wrote:
> hmm
> Just for the record, while I know people that are happy with hErBAY,
> I know more that have been raped buying crap. Always their fault
> sure, but anyone willing to gamble on that "system" needs a good
> Vaseline supply anyway.
I've bought a dozen items, most expensive was $100. Every one wa s a good
deal and as stated in the listing. Maybe I've been lucky, but I've also
been cautious. There are many things I'll pass on. I even passed on the
engine head line that started at $12,000,000 even though it would have been
a good price if not bid up.
>
> I was only making the point that this "bandsaw" is a $300 pig in a
> poke...unseen, untouched
> with only someon's word that you never met it has some value.
Agreed.
> Add to that a first bid by a "user" that just opened an account today
> and it still smells fishy.
Just a guess, but the guy was probably covering his ass, or so he thought.
I've bid on items early on and dropped out early on. I've gotten a couple
of bargains that way, like a book for $5 that should normally have gone for
$20. The seller lost out, but I'm sure his family is not destitute because
of it. OTOH, if a was the only bidder at $5 for an expensive tool with no
reserve, the seller may hurt a bit.
--
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
I agree with Joe 1000%. If an item has a reserve I won't bid and I never
look at it again. Got no time for silly games.
Dick
--
Building and repair of fine custom cues at affordable
prices for real poolplayers. Over 35yrs. exp.
Richard H. Neighbors 318 Linden st. Cinti. OH
ph.# (513) 242-1700
web-site: http://www.dickiecues.com
"BIG JOE" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Easy boys. I have the same band saw, plus the riser block.
>
> It does look rather new. Don't know why it needs a tuneup, but if
> it's nothing serious, $300 is a good price, and I don't see anything
> about "reserve not met". The reserves piss me off more than anything.
> What type of game is that? Let us know the starting price and have
> at it.
>
> Joe
>
>
> >
> > One bid, $300....hmmmmm
> > From a first timer that created his account when...oh yeah...today...
> >
> > Pretty sleezy tony
> >
> >
> > Myx
"Tony" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:%[email protected]...
> Hi Edwin, I agree totally, no way would I not put either a reserve or a min.
> starting price on something of value. They can bid on it if they want to,
> if not, don't bid on it. I guess just another case of ppl. wanting
> something for nothing.
>
hmm
Just for the record, while I know people that are happy with hErBAY,
I know more that have been raped buying crap. Always their fault sure, but anyone
willing to gamble on that "system" needs a good Vaseline supply anyway.
I was only making the point that this "bandsaw" is a $300 pig in a poke...unseen,
untouched
with only someon's word that you never met it has some value.
Add to that a first bid by a "user" that just opened an account today and it still smells
fishy.
Good luck any deal between a happy seller and buyer is ok.
(Or was that between a grifter and his mark.. I get confused...)
Myx
Yes, it is. Just not favorably hehe :)
A Ford Taurus is a car. A Ferrari Enzo is also a car. Are they comparable?
;-)
"Tony" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It is comparable, is it not?
>
> Tony
> Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I noticed a little "puffery" in your ad Tony. Comparing it to the
> > Powermatic? tsk tsk.
> >
> > dave
> >
> > Tony wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, I have my bandsaw for sale on ebay, if anyone is interested.
> > >
> > > http://www.tinyurl.com/25j99
> > >
> > > Thanks.......
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
Tony wrote:
>I really don't appreciate the insinuation, I don't know who the bidder
>is./....
Tony,
First off, lighten up or stop posting eBay auctions here on
the wreck (1).
Second, the people who are casting the aspersions, they
ain't your public. The people who are looking at your
auction, they don't give a shit what anyone else says. They
only want to find the deal of the century.
Third, lighten up. We don't know you, we don't know where
you live and the truth of the matter is, we will have
forgotten you by this time next week.
(1) This is not an encouragement to stop posting auctions.
She-it and boy howdy you'd have to be a fool to not post
your auctions here. You can double the number on your hit
counter by posting the auction here.
UA100