Does anyone else think that Milwaukee's "Quik-Lok" cord is an incredibly stupid
idea? Sure, it makes it easy to change the cord or take it off if you need to
store the tool in a small space. However, it introduces a whole new weak link
(connector) and it costs a fortune. So you end up with a $17.00 (Home Despot
price) 8' cord that will need replacement sooner or later when the connector
fails (and I have one that did). For a regular tool, you buy some SJT 16/3 for
around $1/foot and a plug for a couple bucks.
The only time I'd think it would make sense is if you were a really careless
contractor who had to replace damaged cords onsite every week, or maybe if you
needed to keep a drill in a body cavity. Other than that, give me a fixed cord.
GTO(John)
I have the QL on my 1/2" holeshooter. While I really do like the utility
of
having it removable, the outer cord insulation (black part) has pulled
out of
the connector shell leaving the internal green/white/black wires
exposed. I tried one time
to crack the connector open since all I really need to do is shorten
things up and
stuff it all back in, but the darn thing has more hidden locking tabs
than I have
fingers....
-Bruce
GTO69RA4 wrote:
>
> Does anyone else think that Milwaukee's "Quik-Lok" cord is an incredibly stupid
> idea? Sure, it makes it easy to change the cord or take it off if you need to
> store the tool in a small space. However, it introduces a whole new weak link
> (connector) and it costs a fortune. So you end up with a $17.00 (Home Despot
> price) 8' cord that will need replacement sooner or later when the connector
> fails (and I have one that did). For a regular tool, you buy some SJT 16/3 for
> around $1/foot and a plug for a couple bucks.
>
> The only time I'd think it would make sense is if you were a really careless
> contractor who had to replace damaged cords onsite every week, or maybe if you
> needed to keep a drill in a body cavity. Other than that, give me a fixed cord.
>
> GTO(John)
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GTO69RA4 wrote:
> Does anyone else think that Milwaukee's "Quik-Lok" cord is an incredibly stupid
> idea? Sure, it makes it easy to change the cord or take it off if you need to
> store the tool in a small space.
I like my quik lok cords. It allows me to store the tool in a smaller
space without worrying about the cord being stressed. If the cord needs
replaced it's a simple matter of replacing the cord. I don't have to
split the tool and do a rewire game.
My tools aren't exposed to the harsh world of contracting. This may be
the difference. I'm the only one using them so I know their not abused.
--
Mark
N.E. Ohio
Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens,
A.K.A. Mark Twain)
When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the
suspense. (Gaz, r.moto)
I personally like being able to store all my toools WITHOUT the cord
on them. It is a major pain to wrap up the cord on each tool. Now I
simply twist it a half turn and hang the cord somewhere; the tools are
SO much easier to store without the cord. I have three drills, a
hammer drill, a Sawzall (sp?), and something esle that just slipped my
mind.
On 05 Jan 2004 23:26:33 GMT, [email protected] (GTO69RA4) wrote:
>Does anyone else think that Milwaukee's "Quik-Lok" cord is an incredibly stupid
>idea? Sure, it makes it easy to change the cord or take it off if you need to
>store the tool in a small space. However, it introduces a whole new weak link
>(connector) and it costs a fortune. So you end up with a $17.00 (Home Despot
>price) 8' cord that will need replacement sooner or later when the connector
>fails (and I have one that did). For a regular tool, you buy some SJT 16/3 for
>around $1/foot and a plug for a couple bucks.
>
>The only time I'd think it would make sense is if you were a really careless
>contractor who had to replace damaged cords onsite every week, or maybe if you
>needed to keep a drill in a body cavity. Other than that, give me a fixed cord.
>
>GTO(John)
"GTO69RA4" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Does anyone else think that Milwaukee's "Quik-Lok" cord is an incredibly
stupid
> idea? Sure, it makes it easy to change the cord or take it off if you need
to
> store the tool in a small space. However, it introduces a whole new weak
link
> (connector) and it costs a fortune. So you end up with a $17.00 (Home
Despot
> price) 8' cord that will need replacement sooner or later when the
connector
> fails (and I have one that did). For a regular tool, you buy some SJT 16/3
for
> around $1/foot and a plug for a couple bucks.
>
> The only time I'd think it would make sense is if you were a really
careless
> contractor who had to replace damaged cords onsite every week, or maybe if
you
> needed to keep a drill in a body cavity. Other than that, give me a fixed
cord.
>
> GTO(John)
One of the plusses is you can use a different length Quik-lok cord when
needed, it comes in 8' standard & 25' extra long. Looked after they last a
long time, one of my guys has the patience & skill to rewire & re-install
the twist plug virtually invisibly in less than fifteen minutes. We have
often re-used the connector with a new standard heavy duty 3 wire cord for
about $10 extra labour. The original Quik-lok cordsets are superiorly made
compared to most standard cordsets.
Don't forget to try to limit the voltage drop to five volts at 150% of the
rated amperage when using extra long cords, inadequate size wire causes a
serious drop in voltage resulting in loss of power & tool damage.
--
© Jon Down ®
http://www.stores.ebay.com/jdpowertoolcanada
If I want a longer cord, I have extension cords from 16 to 10 gauge. My issue
with the Quik-Lok connectors is the connector itself, not the cord going into
it. The contacts are not as durable as a regular 120/15 blade plug/outlet like
you'd have on an extension cord. As far as I know, Milwaukee doesn't sell just
the connectors, so I'm out a whole cord.
You can also get 50' QL cords, by the way.
GTO(John)
>One of the plusses is you can use a different length Quik-lok cord when
>needed, it comes in 8' standard & 25' extra long. Looked after they last a
>long time, one of my guys has the patience & skill to rewire & re-install
>the twist plug virtually invisibly in less than fifteen minutes. We have
>often re-used the connector with a new standard heavy duty 3 wire cord for
>about $10 extra labour. The original Quik-lok cordsets are superiorly made
>compared to most standard cordsets.
>
>Don't forget to try to limit the voltage drop to five volts at 150% of the
>rated amperage when using extra long cords, inadequate size wire causes a
>serious drop in voltage resulting in loss of power & tool damage.
>
>--
>© Jon Down ®
>http://www.stores.ebay.com/jdpowertoolcanada
"GTO69RA4" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Does anyone else think that Milwaukee's "Quik-Lok" cord is an incredibly
stupid
> idea?
Yes. I hate them. They absolutely will not stand up to commercial
construction use. Infact, the first thing I tell my guys to do is replace
the quicklock with a regular cord. I typically buy sawzalls and drills that
are milwaukie brand. Because of the quickcord issues I've had, I've
switched to the porter cable tiger saw(zall). From the fwiw dept.
SH
I actually went to a regular-corded Super Sawzall because I wasn't happy with
the design of my PC Tiger Saw. The PC uses a guide design that more prone to
wear and slop, plus no anti-vibe counterweight.
GTO(John)
>Yes. I hate them. They absolutely will not stand up to commercial
>construction use. Infact, the first thing I tell my guys to do is replace
>the quicklock with a regular cord. I typically buy sawzalls and drills that
>are milwaukie brand. Because of the quickcord issues I've had, I've
>switched to the porter cable tiger saw(zall). From the fwiw dept.
>SH
"GTO69RA4" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I actually went to a regular-corded Super Sawzall because I wasn't happy
with
> the design of my PC Tiger Saw. The PC uses a guide design that more prone
to
> wear and slop, plus no anti-vibe counterweight.
Price is an issue here John. <g>. My guys go through sawzalls and skil saws
like I go through socks. Personally, I use the milwaukie non super sawzall
with the regular cord. I've had it for 10 years. It isn't as powerful as
the super model or tiger saw but it works for me. BTW, what year is your
GTO?
SH
>
> GTO(John)
>
> >Yes. I hate them. They absolutely will not stand up to commercial
> >construction use. Infact, the first thing I tell my guys to do is
replace
> >the quicklock with a regular cord. I typically buy sawzalls and drills
that
> >are milwaukie brand. Because of the quickcord issues I've had, I've
> >switched to the porter cable tiger saw(zall). From the fwiw dept.
> >SH
Slowhand writes:
>"GTO69RA4" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I actually went to a regular-corded Super Sawzall because I wasn't happy
>with
>> the design of my PC Tiger Saw. The PC uses a guide design that more prone
>to
>> wear and slop, plus no anti-vibe counterweight.
>
>Price is an issue here John. <g>. My guys go through sawzalls and skil saws
>like I go through socks. Personally, I use the milwaukie non super sawzall
>with the regular cord. I've had it for 10 years. It isn't as powerful as
>the super model or tiger saw but it works for me. B
Would they go through recip and circular saws so quickly if they had a share in
them? Like buying their own tools?
That said, I used a Sawzall a few years ago with that Quik-Lok plug and hated
it. Sawing off rafter ends 20' in the air and having the f***er fall out 3-4
times brought out the duct tape. I don't like working off the ground anyway,
but when I have to go down to retrieve something that shouldn't have fallen 4
times in a single hour, I hate the trip down and up, too.
Charlie Self
"Brevity is the soul of lingerie." Dorothy Parker
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