Ab

"Al"

16/12/2003 1:14 AM

Easy way to apply Deft??

I'm looking for an easy way to apply quite a few coats of deft to a living
room furniture set I'm building. I've tried brushing and it's tough for me
to see where I've already brushed - even with a bright light. I don't have
the cash to invest in a spray rig (thought about renting one, but I believe
the learning curve might be higher than what I want to deal with for this
project) - though I do plan on buying one around summer some time (thought
on this would be nice too).
I've thought about, but haven't acted on, trying to apply deft with a common
spray bottle - but I think I'd probably wind up putting down too much had
getting an uneven finish on horizontal surfaces and runs/sags on vertical
surfaces....I've also contemplated ragging the stuff on with a t-shirt -
though I think this would be putting down very thin layers, effectively
doubling the number of coats I'd need.

Thought anyone?

Thanks in advance,
Al


This topic has 11 replies

BB

BRuce

in reply to "Al" on 16/12/2003 1:14 AM

16/12/2003 9:30 AM

which HF gun?

Charlie Campney wrote:

> Al,
>
> I spray Deft Lacquer and also Sherwin Wiliams with a $16 spray gun
> from Harbor Freight. About 30 psi and thinned 50-50 or so.If yu have
> a compressor thats the way to go until you can afford an HVLP rig.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Al" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>I'm looking for an easy way to apply quite a few coats of deft to a living
>>room furniture set I'm building. I've tried brushing and it's tough for me
>>to see where I've already brushed - even with a bright light. I don't have
>>the cash to invest in a spray rig (thought about renting one, but I believe
>>the learning curve might be higher than what I want to deal with for this
>>project) - though I do plan on buying one around summer some time (thought
>>on this would be nice too).
>>I've thought about, but haven't acted on, trying to apply deft with a common
>>spray bottle - but I think I'd probably wind up putting down too much had
>>getting an uneven finish on horizontal surfaces and runs/sags on vertical
>>surfaces....I've also contemplated ragging the stuff on with a t-shirt -
>>though I think this would be putting down very thin layers, effectively
>>doubling the number of coats I'd need.
>>
>>Thought anyone?
>>
>>Thanks in advance,
>>Al

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to "Al" on 16/12/2003 1:14 AM

16/12/2003 2:01 AM

or use poly, but wipe it on instead of brushing. Deft is a slow drying
lacquer; I don't know if it can be wiped like thinned poly (or "wiping
poly") can.

dave

Al wrote:

> I'm looking for an easy way to apply quite a few coats of deft to a living
> room furniture set I'm building. I've tried brushing and it's tough for me
> to see where I've already brushed - even with a bright light. I don't have
> the cash to invest in a spray rig (thought about renting one, but I believe
> the learning curve might be higher than what I want to deal with for this
> project) - though I do plan on buying one around summer some time (thought
> on this would be nice too).
> I've thought about, but haven't acted on, trying to apply deft with a common
> spray bottle - but I think I'd probably wind up putting down too much had
> getting an uneven finish on horizontal surfaces and runs/sags on vertical
> surfaces....I've also contemplated ragging the stuff on with a t-shirt -
> though I think this would be putting down very thin layers, effectively
> doubling the number of coats I'd need.
>
> Thought anyone?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Al
>
>

LA

Lawrence A. Ramsey

in reply to "Al" on 16/12/2003 1:14 AM

15/12/2003 8:27 PM

I use the spray can version of Deft and like it. the spray is
consistent and very easy to apply. I hate cranking up the compressor
and cleaning the gun when through so this is much easier and MUCH
faster.

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 01:14:55 GMT, "Al" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm looking for an easy way to apply quite a few coats of deft to a living
>room furniture set I'm building. I've tried brushing and it's tough for me
>to see where I've already brushed - even with a bright light. I don't have
>the cash to invest in a spray rig (thought about renting one, but I believe
>the learning curve might be higher than what I want to deal with for this
>project) - though I do plan on buying one around summer some time (thought
>on this would be nice too).
>I've thought about, but haven't acted on, trying to apply deft with a common
>spray bottle - but I think I'd probably wind up putting down too much had
>getting an uneven finish on horizontal surfaces and runs/sags on vertical
>surfaces....I've also contemplated ragging the stuff on with a t-shirt -
>though I think this would be putting down very thin layers, effectively
>doubling the number of coats I'd need.
>
>Thought anyone?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Al
>

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Campney)

in reply to "Al" on 16/12/2003 1:14 AM

16/12/2003 1:09 AM

Al,

I spray Deft Lacquer and also Sherwin Wiliams with a $16 spray gun
from Harbor Freight. About 30 psi and thinned 50-50 or so.If yu have
a compressor thats the way to go until you can afford an HVLP rig.





"Al" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I'm looking for an easy way to apply quite a few coats of deft to a living
> room furniture set I'm building. I've tried brushing and it's tough for me
> to see where I've already brushed - even with a bright light. I don't have
> the cash to invest in a spray rig (thought about renting one, but I believe
> the learning curve might be higher than what I want to deal with for this
> project) - though I do plan on buying one around summer some time (thought
> on this would be nice too).
> I've thought about, but haven't acted on, trying to apply deft with a common
> spray bottle - but I think I'd probably wind up putting down too much had
> getting an uneven finish on horizontal surfaces and runs/sags on vertical
> surfaces....I've also contemplated ragging the stuff on with a t-shirt -
> though I think this would be putting down very thin layers, effectively
> doubling the number of coats I'd need.
>
> Thought anyone?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Al

JW

Jim Weisgram

in reply to "Al" on 16/12/2003 1:14 AM

17/12/2003 4:48 PM

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 01:14:55 GMT, "Al" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm looking for an easy way to apply quite a few coats of deft to a living
>room furniture set I'm building. I've tried brushing and it's tough for me
>to see where I've already brushed - even with a bright light.
[...snip...]

Have you tried shining a light across the piece rather than from
above?

PA

"Preston Andreas"

in reply to "Al" on 16/12/2003 1:14 AM

16/12/2003 3:02 AM

Use a wipe on polyurethane, or spray the Deft. The wipe on poly will give
you a good finish, but since the coats are thinner, you need more coats,
therefore, more time. You can buy a wipe on varnish, but it is simple to
mix mineral spirits 50/50 with poly to make your own. I know you can brush
Deft, but it is hard to keep a wet edge and get an acceptable finish.
Especially on larger objets. When I use Deft, I spray it.

Preston
"Al" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm looking for an easy way to apply quite a few coats of deft to a living
> room furniture set I'm building.
>
> Thought anyone?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Al
>
>

jJ

[email protected] (Jimlemon)

in reply to "Preston Andreas" on 16/12/2003 3:02 AM

16/12/2003 4:32 AM

Thought of using a Pre-Val sprayer? Just like a spray can and does a decent
job.
http://www.prevalspraygun.com/

Ab

"Al"

in reply to "Al" on 16/12/2003 1:14 AM

16/12/2003 2:51 AM

I've seen the spray cans, but they look to be a fairly expensive alternative
(granted, not as expensive as buying a spray setup). Guess I'll give the
spray cans a go and see how many coats I can get out of one can...or how
many cans it takes to get one coat. :)

Incidentally, the spray rig I'm going to wind up with is a binks HVLP
conversion gun - gravity fed... I've heard that cleanup on these is the
cat's meow and that if you set up a filling station that it takes no time at
all to do a project...a bit pricey at abou $300(?) for the gun, but I think
it'll be a worthwhile investment...



"Lawrence A. Ramsey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I use the spray can version of Deft and like it. the spray is
> consistent and very easy to apply. I hate cranking up the compressor
> and cleaning the gun when through so this is much easier and MUCH
> faster.
>
> On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 01:14:55 GMT, "Al" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I'm looking for an easy way to apply quite a few coats of deft to a
living
> >room furniture set I'm building. I've tried brushing and it's tough for
me
> >to see where I've already brushed - even with a bright light. I don't
have
> >the cash to invest in a spray rig (thought about renting one, but I
believe
> >the learning curve might be higher than what I want to deal with for this
> >project) - though I do plan on buying one around summer some time
(thought
> >on this would be nice too).
> >I've thought about, but haven't acted on, trying to apply deft with a
common
> >spray bottle - but I think I'd probably wind up putting down too much had
> >getting an uneven finish on horizontal surfaces and runs/sags on vertical
> >surfaces....I've also contemplated ragging the stuff on with a t-shirt -
> >though I think this would be putting down very thin layers, effectively
> >doubling the number of coats I'd need.
> >
> >Thought anyone?
> >
> >Thanks in advance,
> >Al
> >
>

Po

"Pounds on Wood"

in reply to "Al" on 16/12/2003 1:14 AM

16/12/2003 6:24 PM

Agreeing with most of the other replies (except the poly ones), and to
answer the padding question directly, I have padded the Deft on turned bowls
and such. It is easy to do with a small swatch of cotton tee shirt, but it
will take forever to get any build. I'm not even sure you can get a build,
because each application will cut the previous. I like it as a first
wetting coat in some cases. But I cannot imagine it working for what you
want to do. The spray cans are pretty good.

--
Bill Pounds
http://www.bill.pounds.net/woodshop


"Al" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...


Snip ....I've also contemplated ragging the stuff on with a t-shirt -
> though I think this would be putting down very thin layers, effectively
> doubling the number of coats I'd need.
>
> Thought anyone?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Al
>
>

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Al" on 16/12/2003 1:14 AM

15/12/2003 8:54 PM

Ditto .. Hold it upside down, spray for a few seconds and put it back on the
shelf, you're done with the cleanup. I can put three coats on a small table
in the time it takes to clean up the HVLP sprayer.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 9/21/03


"Lawrence A. Ramsey" wrote in message:

> I use the spray can version of Deft and like it. the spray is
> consistent and very easy to apply. I hate cranking up the compressor
> and cleaning the gun when through so this is much easier and MUCH
> faster.

WB

"Wood Butcher"

in reply to "Al" on 16/12/2003 1:14 AM

16/12/2003 1:50 AM

I think you'd have a tough time trying to find a spray bottle which
would stand up to the lacquer thinner in Deft as it melts many
common plastics.

How about using Deft in a rattle can?

Art

"Al" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm looking for an easy way to apply quite a few coats of deft to a living
> room furniture set I'm building. I've tried brushing and it's tough for me
> to see where I've already brushed - even with a bright light. I don't have
> the cash to invest in a spray rig (thought about renting one, but I believe
> the learning curve might be higher than what I want to deal with for this
> project) - though I do plan on buying one around summer some time (thought
> on this would be nice too).
> I've thought about, but haven't acted on, trying to apply deft with a common
> spray bottle - but I think I'd probably wind up putting down too much had
> getting an uneven finish on horizontal surfaces and runs/sags on vertical
> surfaces....I've also contemplated ragging the stuff on with a t-shirt -
> though I think this would be putting down very thin layers, effectively
> doubling the number of coats I'd need.
>
> Thought anyone?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Al
>
>


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