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"AggieSawDust"

15/08/2005 7:56 PM

TS Zero Clearance Insert Question

So I just recieved and installed my zero clearance insert from Grizzly
for my 1023S. I've never used one of these inserts and am concerned.

With the normal insert, when the saw is on, the only noise I hear is
the humming of the motor until I feed the saw some wood. However, with
the zero clearance insert in place and the saw running, I hear the
whining of the blade as it spins, making contact with the insert. Is
this normal? If so, won't this generate enough heat to scorch the
blade eventually?

Thanks.


This topic has 12 replies

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"AggieSawDust"

in reply to "AggieSawDust" on 15/08/2005 7:56 PM

16/08/2005 12:21 PM

Thanks everyone for the replies, you have eased my mind. My last
question regarding ZCI's are, do most of you just keep this in all the
time (except when mitering or dadoing of course)? Is there any other
reason to use the stock insert?

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"AggieSawDust"

in reply to "AggieSawDust" on 15/08/2005 7:56 PM

16/08/2005 1:02 PM

Doh!! I was looking at miter saws just before typing my reply. I
thinking about one of these for my next purchase. I did mean
beveling....

AR

"Al Reid"

in reply to "AggieSawDust" on 15/08/2005 7:56 PM

16/08/2005 8:18 AM

"AggieSawDust" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> So I just recieved and installed my zero clearance insert from Grizzly
> for my 1023S. I've never used one of these inserts and am concerned.
>
> With the normal insert, when the saw is on, the only noise I hear is
> the humming of the motor until I feed the saw some wood. However, with
> the zero clearance insert in place and the saw running, I hear the
> whining of the blade as it spins, making contact with the insert. Is
> this normal? If so, won't this generate enough heat to scorch the
> blade eventually?
>
> Thanks.
>

That's how you know when you need to replace the ZCI. When it starts sounding like the standard insert, but a new ZCI.

Seriously, mine sounds the same way and I have never ruined a blade. But, be careful to put the standard insert back in before you
tilt the blade. DAMHIKT!

--
Al Reid

TB

"Thomas Bunetta"

in reply to "AggieSawDust" on 15/08/2005 7:56 PM

16/08/2005 1:08 PM


"AggieSawDust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> So I just recieved and installed my zero clearance insert from Grizzly
> for my 1023S. I've never used one of these inserts and am concerned.
>
> With the normal insert, when the saw is on, the only noise I hear is
> the humming of the motor until I feed the saw some wood. However, with
> the zero clearance insert in place and the saw running, I hear the
> whining of the blade as it spins, making contact with the insert. Is
> this normal? If so, won't this generate enough heat to scorch the
> blade eventually?
>
> Thanks.
>
When the blades teeth go by the ZCI at speed, the air is "chopped" much like
the old fashioned siren... this creates the additional whine. No harm will
come to the blade.
Tom

DD

David

in reply to "AggieSawDust" on 15/08/2005 7:56 PM

16/08/2005 12:37 PM

AggieSawDust wrote:

> Thanks everyone for the replies, you have eased my mind. My last
> question regarding ZCI's are, do most of you just keep this in all the
> time (except when mitering or dadoing of course)? Is there any other
> reason to use the stock insert?
>
I always use the ZCI unless I pop in the molding head or dado head, or,
of course when I have to tilt the blade for BEVELING cuts. Why would
you remove the ZCI for miter cuts??

Dave

DD

David

in reply to "AggieSawDust" on 15/08/2005 7:56 PM

15/08/2005 7:58 PM

AggieSawDust wrote:

> So I just recieved and installed my zero clearance insert from Grizzly
> for my 1023S. I've never used one of these inserts and am concerned.
>
> With the normal insert, when the saw is on, the only noise I hear is
> the humming of the motor until I feed the saw some wood. However, with
> the zero clearance insert in place and the saw running, I hear the
> whining of the blade as it spins, making contact with the insert. Is
> this normal? If so, won't this generate enough heat to scorch the
> blade eventually?
>
> Thanks.
>
It shouldn't. the whine is due to the closeness of the blade to the
insert. I've never ruined a blade running it in a ZCI.

Dave

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"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "AggieSawDust" on 15/08/2005 7:56 PM

16/08/2005 11:47 PM


"AggieSawDust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks everyone for the replies, you have eased my mind. My last
> question regarding ZCI's are, do most of you just keep this in all the
> time (except when mitering or dadoing of course)? Is there any other
> reason to use the stock insert?

Leave it in unless you are tilting the blade.

I made a half dozen from MDF and use them all the time. A few are cut for
dados of common widths. You may find the method that was posted here over a
year ago. It was a simple thing to do tracing the original insert and then
using a router to follow the master. Drill some holes for leveling screws
and you are good to go.

SM

"Stephen M"

in reply to "AggieSawDust" on 15/08/2005 7:56 PM

16/08/2005 3:47 PM

Good question.

Almost always. I have a ZCI for 90 degrees, 45, 7, 3/4" dado and a double 90
for mounting 2 rip blades with a spacer for making 2 sides of a tennon in a
single pass.

For "everything else", I use the stock insert. :-)

Make your own. I used offcuts from some 1/2" cabinet-grade plywood. A couple
of layers of masking tape was all that needed on the bottom to shim them up
to level.

Cheers,

Steve

> Thanks everyone for the replies, you have eased my mind. My last
> question regarding ZCI's are, do most of you just keep this in all the
> time (except when mitering or dadoing of course)? Is there any other
> reason to use the stock insert?
>

BB

Bruce Barnett

in reply to "AggieSawDust" on 15/08/2005 7:56 PM

18/08/2005 12:53 AM

"AggieSawDust" <[email protected]> writes:

> Thanks everyone for the replies, you have eased my mind. My last
> question regarding ZCI's are, do most of you just keep this in all the
> time (except when mitering or dadoing of course)? Is there any other
> reason to use the stock insert?

For the kerf splitter?
Or you can get the Micro Jig Splitter for the ZCI.


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Tom Banes

in reply to "AggieSawDust" on 15/08/2005 7:56 PM

16/08/2005 2:50 PM

do most of you just keep this in all the
>time (except when mitering or dadoing of course)? Is there any other
>reason to use the stock insert?


Not that I've ever found - if you can rember to swap it out when doing
your angle cuts. The dado stack will remind you 'cause you can't get
the insert back in!

Regards.

DD

David

in reply to "AggieSawDust" on 15/08/2005 7:56 PM

16/08/2005 1:27 PM

AggieSawDust wrote:

> Doh!! I was looking at miter saws just before typing my reply. I
> thinking about one of these for my next purchase. I did mean
> beveling....
>
:) I know! I was just messin' with you!

Dave

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "AggieSawDust" on 15/08/2005 7:56 PM

16/08/2005 5:56 AM


"AggieSawDust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Is
> this normal?

Yes

> If so, won't this generate enough heat to scorch the
> blade eventually?

No. It will ease up in time as the insert wears.


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