mr

"mack"

22/04/2004 7:03 PM

boat interior

I've been contracted to redo a boat interior and since
teak is too expensive for this project, is cypress a good
choice?
mack


This topic has 14 replies

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "mack" on 22/04/2004 7:03 PM

23/04/2004 4:40 PM


"mack" writes:
> OK, thanks for the help...all of you.
> the boat is an old chriscraft, '79 i think...
> best buddy's dream boat...abused and neglected,
> interior "was" of some sort of vinyl covered fiber board...
<snip>

Since you indicate there are budget constraints, probably ought to look for
another boat.

A 25 year old "woodie" power boat is your basic definition of a hole in the
water into which you pour money.

Whatever amount you have budgeted, multiply it by 10 or 20 and you will
still be short of funds.

HTH

BTW, my suggestion was to use "swamp cypress", AKA "sinkers", not new
growth. Big difference.


--
Lew

S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland)
Visit: <http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett> for Pictures

Jj

Jeremy

in reply to "mack" on 22/04/2004 7:03 PM

23/04/2004 3:51 PM

Where are you located, I can usually get teak to you at less than $6 BF,
is that too expensive?

If you want to use odd woods, you should go with something much more
stable than cypress.

JJ

mack wrote:
>
> I've been contracted to redo a boat interior and since
> teak is too expensive for this project, is cypress a good
> choice?
> mack

Jj

Jeremy

in reply to "mack" on 22/04/2004 7:03 PM

23/04/2004 4:28 PM

Where in Texas?

JJ

mack wrote:
>
> OK, thanks for the help...all of you.
> the boat is an old chriscraft, '79 i think...
> best buddy's dream boat...abused and neglected,
> interior "was" of some sort of vinyl covered fiber board...
> the "Mattie Vic" is taking on a new face and will eventually
> take a new home...she'll be going to salt water.
> the funds for the interior are negotiable but limited.
> i thought cypress would be a good choice. both to lighten
> the interior with a nice sturdy weathered look
> and provide a warm natural space for a budget. i'd read that
> cypress was more impervious to the elements than most other
> local woods (Texas)..he's a fanatic...and mesquite dulls the blades too
> much.
> if i'd known that cypress was goin' to walk around the cabin i'd of brought
> up
> bamboo....as in flooring..
>
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "mack" writes:
> >
> > > I've been contracted to redo a boat interior and since
> > > teak is too expensive for this project, is cypress a good
> > > choice?
> >
> > Swamp Cypress will make nice grates for the shower as well as for the
> head.
> >
> > For the rest of the boat, be creative.
> >
> > Oak, Ash and Maple come to mind.
> >
> > SFWIW, I'll be using quarter sawn Brown Maple & White Oak.
> >
> > BTW, I think teak below decks is not only a waste of money, but is very
> > depressing since it produces a very dark interior.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> >
> > --
> > Lew
> >
> > S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the
> Southland)
> > Visit: <http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett> for Pictures
> >
> >

Jj

Jeremy

in reply to "mack" on 22/04/2004 7:03 PM

23/04/2004 5:39 PM

I have a bunch of 4/4 rough sawn teak for a delivered price of $5 to
Temple if you get 50 board feet and can wait until I have a drop in
Bastrop.

JJ

mack wrote:
>
> the boat is near Temple, Tx now.
> it's a heavy fiberglass hull that's been
> completely redone, new motors, new electronics,
> new everything..it's been in restoration for about
> 5 years now...it's his baby...this is one of the last things
> on the list, but he's got another couple of years to work
> on it...this is a labor of budgeted love...
>
> "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Where are you located, I can usually get teak to you at less than $6 BF,
> > is that too expensive?
> >
> > If you want to use odd woods, you should go with something much more
> > stable than cypress.
> >
> > JJ
> >
> > mack wrote:
> > >
> > > I've been contracted to redo a boat interior and since
> > > teak is too expensive for this project, is cypress a good
> > > choice?
> > > mack

mr

"mack"

in reply to "mack" on 22/04/2004 7:03 PM

23/04/2004 4:11 PM

OK, thanks for the help...all of you.
the boat is an old chriscraft, '79 i think...
best buddy's dream boat...abused and neglected,
interior "was" of some sort of vinyl covered fiber board...
the "Mattie Vic" is taking on a new face and will eventually
take a new home...she'll be going to salt water.
the funds for the interior are negotiable but limited.
i thought cypress would be a good choice. both to lighten
the interior with a nice sturdy weathered look
and provide a warm natural space for a budget. i'd read that
cypress was more impervious to the elements than most other
local woods (Texas)..he's a fanatic...and mesquite dulls the blades too
much.
if i'd known that cypress was goin' to walk around the cabin i'd of brought
up
bamboo....as in flooring..


"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "mack" writes:
>
> > I've been contracted to redo a boat interior and since
> > teak is too expensive for this project, is cypress a good
> > choice?
>
> Swamp Cypress will make nice grates for the shower as well as for the
head.
>
> For the rest of the boat, be creative.
>
> Oak, Ash and Maple come to mind.
>
> SFWIW, I'll be using quarter sawn Brown Maple & White Oak.
>
> BTW, I think teak below decks is not only a waste of money, but is very
> depressing since it produces a very dark interior.
>
> HTH
>
>
> --
> Lew
>
> S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the
Southland)
> Visit: <http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett> for Pictures
>
>

JB

"Jim Bailey"

in reply to "mack" on 22/04/2004 7:03 PM

24/04/2004 4:08 AM

I'm with Lew on this - use your imagination - everything in our Hatteras was
done in Mahogany. If I ever were to redo it, I'd pick a much lighter colored
wood. Seems like most older boats traditionally picked teak and mahogany -
it's just too dark and makes you feel closed in. I know teak and mahogany
have great properties for the job and are very elegant but it's a boat ! -
Give me a light and spacious feeling anytime. I think someone else here was
talkng about using white oak also. That might be pretty nice.

Lew - were you going to use any stain on the oak or leave it light ?

jim bailey


"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "mack" writes:
>
> > I've been contracted to redo a boat interior and since
> > teak is too expensive for this project, is cypress a good
> > choice?
>
> Swamp Cypress will make nice grates for the shower as well as for the
head.
>
> For the rest of the boat, be creative.
>
> Oak, Ash and Maple come to mind.
>
> SFWIW, I'll be using quarter sawn Brown Maple & White Oak.
>
> BTW, I think teak below decks is not only a waste of money, but is very
> depressing since it produces a very dark interior.
>
> HTH
>
>
> --
> Lew
>
> S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the
Southland)
> Visit: <http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett> for Pictures
>
>
>

PA

"Preston Andreas"

in reply to "mack" on 22/04/2004 7:03 PM

23/04/2004 12:43 AM

Unless you get old growth cypress, which can also be fairly expensive, it
moves around a lot. Unless it is fastened down, I wouldn't use it. Made
some doors with it once and a few days later after hanging them, they had
warped all kinds of ways.

Preston
"mack" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've been contracted to redo a boat interior and since
> teak is too expensive for this project, is cypress a good
> choice?
> mack
>
>

mr

"mack"

in reply to "mack" on 22/04/2004 7:03 PM

23/04/2004 5:34 PM

the boat is near Temple, Tx now.
it's a heavy fiberglass hull that's been
completely redone, new motors, new electronics,
new everything..it's been in restoration for about
5 years now...it's his baby...this is one of the last things
on the list, but he's got another couple of years to work
on it...this is a labor of budgeted love...

"Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Where are you located, I can usually get teak to you at less than $6 BF,
> is that too expensive?
>
> If you want to use odd woods, you should go with something much more
> stable than cypress.
>
> JJ
>
> mack wrote:
> >
> > I've been contracted to redo a boat interior and since
> > teak is too expensive for this project, is cypress a good
> > choice?
> > mack

RM

Rodney Myrvaagnes

in reply to "mack" on 22/04/2004 7:03 PM

23/04/2004 1:36 PM

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 00:48:26 GMT, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>For the rest of the boat, be creative.
>
>Oak, Ash and Maple come to mind.
>
>SFWIW, I'll be using quarter sawn Brown Maple & White Oak.
>
>BTW, I think teak below decks is not only a waste of money, but is very
>depressing since it produces a very dark interior.
>

I'm with Lew on this one. With white oak, quartersawn is really
important esthetically. The medullary rays make spectacular figure on
the quarter, and disappear at fairly small angles off quarter.



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


"Be careful. The toe you stepped on yesterday may be connected to the ass you have to kiss today." --Former mayor Ciancia

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "mack" on 22/04/2004 7:03 PM

24/04/2004 4:57 AM


"Jim Bailey" writes:

> Give me a light and spacious feeling anytime. I think someone else here
was
> talkng about using white oak also. That might be pretty nice.

That would be me and quartersawn, it is gorgeous IMHO.


> Lew - were you going to use any stain on the oak or leave it light ?

I like my wood like my beer and my women, natural.

I never use stain. If you ever have to make a repair, you have an
opportunity I'd just as soon not have.

HTH


--
Lew

S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland)
Visit: <http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett> for Pictures

RM

Rodney Myrvaagnes

in reply to "mack" on 22/04/2004 7:03 PM

22/04/2004 7:08 PM

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 19:03:55 GMT, "mack" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I've been contracted to redo a boat interior and since
>teak is too expensive for this project, is cypress a good
>choice?

For the interior you can use pretty much any cabinet wood. It is an
esthetic decision. Cherry and ash are both nice.

>mack
>


Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


"Be careful. The toe you stepped on yesterday may be connected to the ass you have to kiss today." --Former mayor Ciancia

bB

[email protected] (BUB 209)

in reply to Rodney Myrvaagnes on 22/04/2004 7:08 PM

23/04/2004 12:31 AM

The traditional wood if there is any for
cabin cruisers on the interior is
ribbon stripe Phillipine mahogany,
if you can find any. There used to
be a place called Harbor Sales in
Baltimore that sold the matching
3/4" plywood.

RS

Roy Smith

in reply to "mack" on 22/04/2004 7:03 PM

22/04/2004 8:48 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Rodney Myrvaagnes <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 19:03:55 GMT, "mack" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I've been contracted to redo a boat interior and since
> >teak is too expensive for this project, is cypress a good
> >choice?
>
> For the interior you can use pretty much any cabinet wood. It is an
> esthetic decision. Cherry and ash are both nice.

Here's my take on boat interior esthetics.

Boat interiors tend to be dark. A light colored wood will brighten the
space up. On the other hand, boat interiors are hard to keep clean, and
a light wood will show stains and dirt more.

Yeah, I know, that's not very useful :-)

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "mack" on 22/04/2004 7:03 PM

23/04/2004 12:48 AM


"mack" writes:

> I've been contracted to redo a boat interior and since
> teak is too expensive for this project, is cypress a good
> choice?

Swamp Cypress will make nice grates for the shower as well as for the head.

For the rest of the boat, be creative.

Oak, Ash and Maple come to mind.

SFWIW, I'll be using quarter sawn Brown Maple & White Oak.

BTW, I think teak below decks is not only a waste of money, but is very
depressing since it produces a very dark interior.

HTH


--
Lew

S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland)
Visit: <http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett> for Pictures


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