While I was vacuuming the shop tonight, I noticed that sawdust was
clinging to the hose and nozzle. When I touched the Shop Vac, I got
quite a shock. There is obviously a seriously dangerous problem here,
that could lead to sawdust explosions through static sparks, just like
in dust collectors.
So my question is how does one ground a shop vac hose? I have googled
and, while there are many references to grounding PVC pipes and dust
collectors, I have not seen anything about shop vacs. Have you done
it? Or do you have any ideas on how to do it? I wouldn't want to be
the victim of a Shop Vac explosion.
TIA
Luigi
Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
"Unisaw A100" wrote in message ...
> What would you give me for a story about carrying stick
> matches in the pocket of tight blue jeans?
(blink, wince). I'd pay attention, not cash; unless you can relate the story
to the tune of Buddy Holly's "Great Balls of Fire"?
> >The things we do.
>
> And continue to do.
Darwin Awards capture some our more deserving efforts, however, I do like
seeing contender home-videos on TV every now and again, it helps to keep one
focussed.
--
Greg
In article <[email protected]>, Luigi Zanasi
<[email protected]> wrote:
> So my question is how does one ground a shop vac hose? I have googled
> and, while there are many references to grounding PVC pipes and dust
> collectors, I have not seen anything about shop vacs. Have you done
> it? Or do you have any ideas on how to do it? I wouldn't want to be
> the victim of a Shop Vac explosion.
Just connect it to half of the 220 volt circuit. You'll be fine.
djb
--
Is it time to change my sig line yet?
In article <[email protected]>,
gabriel <[email protected]> wrote:
> Do you guys not realize that google exists and someone somewhere WILL
> eventually follow your asinine advice? Yes, all our posts live forever.
> And yes, someone looking to properly ground their shop vac WILL see this
> thread.
Then they'll hopefully read the whole thing. If not, and they become
Darwin Award candidates, let's hope they haven't bred yet.
Deep breaths, Gabriel. DEEEEEEP breaths...
djb
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In article <[email protected]>, Unisaw A100
<[email protected]> wrote:
> But, but, then who would we get to laugh at?
Oh, the breeders will always produce enough of 'em. Keeps the herd
strong, or weak, or something...
> I'm thinking Gabby got his sense of hoomer caught in a car door.
Sense of hoomer, or something...
djb
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On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:33:53 -0800, Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I just had another thought.
<YIKES!> Don't use em all up. It's a long winter.
>Given the low
>volume of air sucked by a shop vac, wouldn't the concentration of dust
>be much higher than in a DC, making an explosion even more likely?
> I noticed you posted a suggestion on how to ground PVC pipe not long ago:
>http://groups.google.ca/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=7c9nvvg39cd5aeqva39icg99990l91t11k%404ax.com
>Would this also work for Shop Vac hoses?
Depends how far away your grounding pipe will be from the compost
heap. More than a few feet and the reduced ionic capacitance flux is
going to call for #6 rubber bands, not #10. And the _red_ SillyPutty.
Definitely the red.
>How would you drive a Shop Vac hose into the ground
>as a grounding rod?
C'mon, use yer head fer something 'sides a parka parker, eh?
It's all about the flow. In this case, the plastic/vinyl/petroleum
byproduct ionicals within the ShopVac hose itself. Gotta get 'em
going back 'n' forth... back 'n' forth...
See, whatcha do is...
Slowly approach the Shop Vac hose with a picture of Jenna "All
Silicone" Jameson. When the Shop Vac Hose gets hard, bang it in da
ground. WHAM! Dere ya go.
But for GOD'S sake, #6 rubber bands. Post pictures on ABPWIRSM&M.
Michael
It's all about the flow.
"gabriel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> --
> gabriel
Gabe, it's the *net*.
Kind'a like 3 degree background radiation.
Always there.
Always annoying.
Turn your squelch knob a tad more to the right.
mttt wrote:
>Compressed air isn't nearly as funny.
I dunno. Ever hold the nozzle 'tween your fingers and make
a high pitched whine that drives the dog nugging futz? Ever
blow open your mouth in front of the kids with a burst of
air? Ever take balls of glazers compound and a piece of
conduit and shoot your neighbors.
Dollar for dollar nothing matches the entertainment value of
compressed air.
>And Steam is too much work.
Steam, what's up with that?
UA100, wondering just how humorless can people be...
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 23:24:17 -0800, Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]>
wrote:
|While I was vacuuming the shop tonight, I noticed that sawdust was
|clinging to the hose and nozzle. When I touched the Shop Vac, I got
|quite a shock. There is obviously a seriously dangerous problem here,
|that could lead to sawdust explosions through static sparks, just like
|in dust collectors.
|
|So my question is how does one ground a shop vac hose? I have googled
|and, while there are many references to grounding PVC pipes and dust
|collectors, I have not seen anything about shop vacs. Have you done
|it? Or do you have any ideas on how to do it? I wouldn't want to be
|the victim of a Shop Vac explosion.
Fortunately, you can't ground an insulator. If you could, there
wouldn't be a piece of electronic on the planet that worked, thus we
wouldn't be having this conversation.
Why carge builds up is explained (more than you want to know) here:
http://www.ce-mag.com/archive/2001/janfeb/mrstatic.html
Why an explosion is highly unlikely is here:
http://www.ce-mag.com/archive/1999/novdec/mrstatic.html
One of the problems is that _you_ become charged while vacuuming _if_
you are insulated from ground. Then you touch a grounded conductor
and zap. Most of us these days are walking around in insulated shoes.
In the electronics industry, where electrostatic discharge (ESD) is a
serious problem, they use heel straps that connect to bare skin and
the bottom of the shoe. They then walk around on conductive mats. We
don't have to go this far. Leather shoes and soles on concrete will
bleed off the charges that disturb us. Or just bend over occasionally
and touch the concrete with your hand. I can't speak to wood floors.
Raising the humidity will help, but that is usually counterproductive
to woodworking and in Arizona where I am 6 or 8% RH is not uncommon so
we have ESD problems in spades.
You can run a "grounding" conductor in or outside the hose and bring
the business end to the same potential as the vac or collector, but
you are *not* grounding the hose.
You can buy (semi)conductive hose. There are also topical treatments
that increase the moisture retaining properties of the surface of the
hose.
http://www.bjz-eppingen.de/eng/bjz.asp?nav1=Static%20control&nav2=Techspray
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 23:24:17 -0800, Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]>
wrote:
Mr Zagnasty, I'm sorry I called you a liar in my first reply. That
wasn't very nice of me. My brain got <OB Electrical term> overloaded
reading that thread about bandsaw coplanar -ity -ness -something.
>So my question is how does one ground a shop vac hose?
An important issue, and one that can't be brought up enough. Safety's
the name of the dust collection tune.
Immersing the entire shop vac in water before turning it on will
eliminate any potential for static buildup. The iono-impediance
factor will approach zero, negating any concern about electron bounce.
If you don't have a bucket of water, de-ionize the shop-vac unit with
the pee out of your sawdust bucket. That'll work _just_ as well.
Michael
"It's all about the flow."
Hi Luigi,
The only problem is the start you get from the shock. The conditions are
not right for an explosion. JG
Luigi Zanasi wrote:
> While I was vacuuming the shop tonight, I noticed that sawdust was
> clinging to the hose and nozzle. When I touched the Shop Vac, I got
> quite a shock. There is obviously a seriously dangerous problem here,
> that could lead to sawdust explosions through static sparks, just like
> in dust collectors.
>
> So my question is how does one ground a shop vac hose? I have googled
> and, while there are many references to grounding PVC pipes and dust
> collectors, I have not seen anything about shop vacs. Have you done
> it? Or do you have any ideas on how to do it? I wouldn't want to be
> the victim of a Shop Vac explosion.
>
> TIA
>
> Luigi
> Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
Luigi Zanasi wrote:
> While I was vacuuming the shop tonight, I noticed that sawdust was
> clinging to the hose and nozzle. When I touched the Shop Vac, I got
> quite a shock. There is obviously a seriously dangerous problem here,
> that could lead to sawdust explosions through static sparks, just like
> in dust collectors.
Spray the hose with an anti-static fabric spray such as "Cling Free". It
also keeps your shop camisole from clinging.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
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Unisaw A100 wrote:
> Nova wrote:
> >Spray the hose with an anti-static fabric spray such as "Cling Free". It
> >also keeps your shop camisole from clinging.
>
> Jack, I'm in the process of making a camisole for my shop
> but I have white walls, a limeish green floor, my machines
> are mostly gray (grey David), I have some that are blue
> (50's vintage Craftsman), a garish green one (Powermatic)
> and quite a bit of MDF I've used for shop infrastructure
> items (screw/hardware shelves). And this isn't even
> mentioning the colors (colours David) in my wood stash
> (everything from ash to zebrawood). This leave me in a
> quandary. I know that I could probably use any color as I
> would be borrowing from the complementary item but I just
> wanted to bounce this off you to see if you had a
> recommendation, a "one color fits all".
>
> By the way, believe it or not but I don't have anything
> urine yellow (DeWalt) so I don't think I would want to go
> that way. What do you think?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> UA100
The answer is obvious. PURPLE!
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
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Bill <bill wrote:
> Although it is technically possible to cause combustion in a dust collector
> by a static discharge, I doubt you'll find anyone who has actually had it
> happen. And stories concerning a friend of a friend don't count! LOL
>
> That said, discharge kits are available all over with a quick internet
> search.
>
> Here is a link to Rockler.
> http://www.rockler.com/findit.cfm?page=2385&sid=AF935
>
> You can tell by the photo there, that it is relatively easy to construct
> your own kit for your vac with minimal trouble.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> While I was vacuuming the shop tonight, I noticed that sawdust was
>> clinging to the hose and nozzle. When I touched the Shop Vac, I got
>> quite a shock. There is obviously a seriously dangerous problem here,
>> that could lead to sawdust explosions through static sparks, just like
>> in dust collectors.
>>
>> So my question is how does one ground a shop vac hose? I have googled
>> and, while there are many references to grounding PVC pipes and dust
>> collectors, I have not seen anything about shop vacs. Have you done
>> it? Or do you have any ideas on how to do it? I wouldn't want to be
>> the victim of a Shop Vac explosion.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Luigi
>> Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
>
>
It can give you a little shock. I ran a flexible wire down the outside
of the hose, attaching it with a circle of tape at intervals. Where the
hose plugs into the vac, put an automotive disconnect plug in the wire.
Continue along the power cord and end with an alligator clip to connect
to the outlet box. If your boxes are hidden and or plastic, you could
connect it to the ground (round) prong of the plug or to the screw on
the receptacle.
--
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On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 10:39:38 +0000, Unisaw A100 wrote:
> By the way, believe it or not but I don't have anything
> urine yellow (DeWalt) so I don't think I would want to go
> that way. What do you think?
>
Urine yellow is much lighter (unless you really save up a lot of coffee).
Dewalt uses "Baby Shit" yellow.
--
-Doug
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 00:42:18 GMT, Unisaw A100 <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Hold on there a minute big boy. Before "we" get to far
>along into this thing I think maybe you might want to hear
>what happened to my brother's best friend's brother-in-law's
>brother. Seems there was a particularly bad/nasty gaseous
>build up and to make a long story short, shop dawg lost and
>eye and the entire shop burnt down to the ground.
Yeah, well, wif evidence like dat I 'spose this means you won't be
investing.
Even if I agree to paint it purple
<sigh . . .>
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker (ret)
Real Email is: tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet
Website: http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1
Bill wrote:
>Question.
>While I DO NOT have silly-putty, I DO have a case of circa 1980's (or
>1970's?) Green Slime in the little plastic trash can. If I let this lay out
>for a day, it gets VERY thick and tacky.
>Is this a viable replacement for red silly-putty?
No but you do have the basic fixings for a tack rag.
Let it firm up and get hard and you have an abrasive belt
cleaner.
UA100
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 15:23:46 GMT, Michael Baglio
<mbaglio<NOSPAM>@nc.rr.com> contended:
>On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 23:24:17 -0800, Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>While I was vacuuming the shop tonight,
>
>Is the rest of this post all lies, too?
No. Everything is true. I just had another thought. Given the low
volume of air sucked by a shop vac, wouldn't the concentration of dust
be much higher than in a DC, making an explosion even more likely?
By the way, Mr. Shipdeckbeam (Betcha you didn't know you had a
woodworking name, eh?), I noticed you posted a suggestion on how to
ground PVC pipe not long ago:
http://groups.google.ca/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=7c9nvvg39cd5aeqva39icg99990l91t11k%404ax.com
Would this also work for Shop Vac hoses? How would you drive a Shop
Vac hose into the ground as a grounding rod? Or is PVC OK?
Luigi
Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 23:24:17 -0800, Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]>
wrote:
>While I was vacuuming the shop tonight,
Is the rest of this post all lies, too?
Nova wrote:
>Spray the hose with an anti-static fabric spray such as "Cling Free". It
>also keeps your shop camisole from clinging.
Jack, I'm in the process of making a camisole for my shop
but I have white walls, a limeish green floor, my machines
are mostly gray (grey David), I have some that are blue
(50's vintage Craftsman), a garish green one (Powermatic)
and quite a bit of MDF I've used for shop infrastructure
items (screw/hardware shelves). And this isn't even
mentioning the colors (colours David) in my wood stash
(everything from ash to zebrawood). This leave me in a
quandary. I know that I could probably use any color as I
would be borrowing from the complementary item but I just
wanted to bounce this off you to see if you had a
recommendation, a "one color fits all".
By the way, believe it or not but I don't have anything
urine yellow (DeWalt) so I don't think I would want to go
that way. What do you think?
Thanks in advance.
UA100
OK, so where's the social responsibility in this thread? Grounding a
vaccum by zapping a dog's nose or even by connecting the shop vac to "half
of the 220 volt circuit"?
Do you guys not realize that google exists and someone somewhere WILL
eventually follow your asinine advice? Yes, all our posts live forever.
And yes, someone looking to properly ground their shop vac WILL see this
thread.
Why not joke with something less serious than electricity?
Man, sometimes I feel like grabbing people, shaking them, and saying "WHAT
THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?!?!?"
--
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Do you kiss your mother and/or wife with that potty mouth?
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"gabriel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> OK, so where's the social responsibility in this thread? Grounding a
> vaccum by zapping a dog's nose or even by connecting the shop vac to "half
> of the 220 volt circuit"?
>
> Do you guys not realize that google exists and someone somewhere WILL
> eventually follow your asinine advice? Yes, all our posts live forever.
> And yes, someone looking to properly ground their shop vac WILL see this
> thread.
>
> Why not joke with something less serious than electricity?
>
> Man, sometimes I feel like grabbing people, shaking them, and saying "WHAT
> THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?!?!?"
>
> --
> gabriel
Question.
While I DO NOT have silly-putty, I DO have a case of circa 1980's (or
1970's?) Green Slime in the little plastic trash can. If I let this lay out
for a day, it gets VERY thick and tacky.
Is this a viable replacement for red silly-putty?
"Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com>" <mbaglio<NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:33:53 -0800, Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > I just had another thought.
>
> <YIKES!> Don't use em all up. It's a long winter.
>
> >Given the low
> >volume of air sucked by a shop vac, wouldn't the concentration of dust
> >be much higher than in a DC, making an explosion even more likely?
> > I noticed you posted a suggestion on how to ground PVC pipe not long
ago:
>
>http://groups.google.ca/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=7c9nvvg39cd5aeqva39i
cg99990l91t11k%404ax.com
> >Would this also work for Shop Vac hoses?
>
> Depends how far away your grounding pipe will be from the compost
> heap. More than a few feet and the reduced ionic capacitance flux is
> going to call for #6 rubber bands, not #10. And the _red_ SillyPutty.
> Definitely the red.
>
> >How would you drive a Shop Vac hose into the ground
> >as a grounding rod?
>
> C'mon, use yer head fer something 'sides a parka parker, eh?
> It's all about the flow. In this case, the plastic/vinyl/petroleum
> byproduct ionicals within the ShopVac hose itself. Gotta get 'em
> going back 'n' forth... back 'n' forth...
>
> See, whatcha do is...
>
> Slowly approach the Shop Vac hose with a picture of Jenna "All
> Silicone" Jameson. When the Shop Vac Hose gets hard, bang it in da
> ground. WHAM! Dere ya go.
>
> But for GOD'S sake, #6 rubber bands. Post pictures on ABPWIRSM&M.
>
> Michael
> It's all about the flow.
Although it is technically possible to cause combustion in a dust collector
by a static discharge, I doubt you'll find anyone who has actually had it
happen. And stories concerning a friend of a friend don't count! LOL
That said, discharge kits are available all over with a quick internet
search.
Here is a link to Rockler.
http://www.rockler.com/findit.cfm?page=2385&sid=AF935
You can tell by the photo there, that it is relatively easy to construct
your own kit for your vac with minimal trouble.
"Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> While I was vacuuming the shop tonight, I noticed that sawdust was
> clinging to the hose and nozzle. When I touched the Shop Vac, I got
> quite a shock. There is obviously a seriously dangerous problem here,
> that could lead to sawdust explosions through static sparks, just like
> in dust collectors.
>
> So my question is how does one ground a shop vac hose? I have googled
> and, while there are many references to grounding PVC pipes and dust
> collectors, I have not seen anything about shop vacs. Have you done
> it? Or do you have any ideas on how to do it? I wouldn't want to be
> the victim of a Shop Vac explosion.
>
> TIA
>
> Luigi
> Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
Just to digress considerably...
Years ago a rather crazy Turk we knew decided to demonstrate the fact that
certain bodily gasses were capable of being ignited. This guy originally had
hair like Osama Bin Laden, but, after ignition, looked more like Mohatma
Ghandi and he also gave flashdance a whole new meaning.
He lost all hair from the thighs, crotch, stomach, chest, beard and hair in
what seemed like a 1/2 second flash-bulb type burn. No lasting damage but I
still get tears in my eyes just thinking of it.
The things we do.
Greg
"Unisaw A100" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Tom Watson wrote:
> >On the other end is a suppository.
>
>
> Hold on there a minute big boy. Before "we" get to far
> along into this thing I think maybe you might want to hear
> what happened to my brother's best friend's brother-in-law's
> brother. Seems there was a particularly bad/nasty gaseous
> build up and to make a long story short, shop dawg lost and
> eye and the entire shop burnt down to the ground.
>
> I am pondering other applications though.
>
> UA100
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 15:33:18 +0000, gabriel <[email protected]> wrote:
>OK, so where's the social responsibility in this thread? Grounding a
>vaccum by zapping a dog's nose or even by connecting the shop vac to "half
>of the 220 volt circuit"?
>
>Do you guys not realize that google exists and someone somewhere WILL
>eventually follow your asinine advice? Yes, all our posts live forever.
>And yes, someone looking to properly ground their shop vac WILL see this
>thread.
>
>Why not joke with something less serious than electricity?
>
>Man, sometimes I feel like grabbing people, shaking them, and saying "WHAT
>THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?!?!?"
consider it a public service to the human gene pool. weed out the weak
and all....
; ^ )
lol...just teasing!
--
She's got tools, and she knows how to use them.
"gabriel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Leslie Gossett wrote:
>
> > Do you kiss your mother and/or wife with that potty mouth?
>
> Sorry. Normally I don't cuss gratuitously, but this makes me really
angry.
>
> --
> gabriel
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 10:13:52 GMT, "Groggy" <[email protected]>
scribbled:
>Option 1. Shop dog comes in handy for this. Touch that warm wet nose with
>the hose and all static will dissipate (along with the dawg).
Don't have a dog. Would work with the neightbour's snotty nosed kid?
>Option 2 is to run a PVC pipe underground to the metal letterbox and put an
>earthing strap on the vac to a wire leading up the pipe to said letterbox. A
>side benefit, apart from removing the static from the shopvac, is the
>postman will emit a loud shriek announcing the arrival of the mail. Drunken
>letterbox wrestlers and nosy neighbours will also announce their arrival
>with various bellows and squawks.
Would a rubber band earthing strap work, like Mr. Shipdeckbeam
suggested in an earlier thread?
Luigi
Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
Option 1. Shop dog comes in handy for this. Touch that warm wet nose with
the hose and all static will dissipate (along with the dawg).
Option 2 is to run a PVC pipe underground to the metal letterbox and put an
earthing strap on the vac to a wire leading up the pipe to said letterbox. A
side benefit, apart from removing the static from the shopvac, is the
postman will emit a loud shriek announcing the arrival of the mail. Drunken
letterbox wrestlers and nosy neighbours will also announce their arrival
with various bellows and squawks.
Greg
"Luigi Zanasi" trolled in message ...
> While I was vacuuming the shop tonight, I noticed that sawdust was
> clinging to the hose and nozzle. When I touched the Shop Vac, I got
> quite a shock. There is obviously a seriously dangerous problem here,
> that could lead to sawdust explosions through static sparks, just like
> in dust collectors.
>
> So my question is how does one ground a shop vac hose? I have googled
> and, while there are many references to grounding PVC pipes and dust
> collectors, I have not seen anything about shop vacs. Have you done
> it? Or do you have any ideas on how to do it? I wouldn't want to be
> the victim of a Shop Vac explosion.
>
> TIA
>
> Luigi
> Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
"gabriel" > wrote in message ...
> OK, so where's the social responsibility in this thread? Grounding a
> vaccum by zapping a dog's nose or even by connecting the shop vac to "half
> of the 220 volt circuit"?
>
> Do you guys not realize that google exists and someone somewhere WILL
> eventually follow your asinine advice? Yes, all our posts live forever.
> And yes, someone looking to properly ground their shop vac WILL see this
> thread.
>
> Why not joke with something less serious than electricity?
>
> Man, sometimes I feel like grabbing people, shaking them, and saying "WHAT
> THE **** IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?!?!?"
Since we're being so literal Gabriel, the posts won't live forever - not all
of them even get archived. Besides, in a few hundred years there will be
little nanobots to clean up for us - if we are still around that is.
If someone reads those posts, including mine, and takes them seriously, then
the gene pool may be cleansed a bit more to help get us to the year 6500.
BTW, Luigi is renowned for his mischievous sense of humour and the responses
are hardly surprising. I honestly thought he was trolling and not serious at
all, silly me.
Greg
"Unisaw A100" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> mttt wrote:
> >Compressed air isn't nearly as funny.
>
"Honey! Can I buy an air compressor?? Puleezzee???
I really need one!"
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 00:06:14 GMT, Unisaw A100 <[email protected]>
wrote:
|I'm thinking Gabby got his sense of hoomer caught in a car
|door.
Jeezus, don't talk about getting something caught in a car door.
A coupla weeks ago I answered an ad for a Delta TS some gent had for
sale. I drove over to see it. He's in a gated community and I parked
a couple of doors away since on-street parking was nil. Just as I'm
closing my car door, I see him come out of his garage and wave me
over.
I drive a Camaro which has pretty long and heavy doors and I hate
slamming car doors so I'm sorta reaching behind me and holding the
door edge to keep it from slamming and waving back at him.
Ooops, I shut the ^*&**&# door on my thumb... plus, since I carry a
firearm, I *always* lock my car, so my thumb is now locked between the
door and the rest of the car. Fortunately, my keys are in the pocket
by my free hand and I manage to get the door unlocked and remove my
swelling thumb.
The guy offered up some ice and I held it on the thumb while I kicked
the tires on the saw.
When I got home, I decided I had to relieve the pressure under the
thumbnail so I got out the propane torch, clamped it in the workbench
vise and heated up the end of a straightened paperclip and stuck it
through the nail. Shit, I must have hit an artery. Blood squirted
everywhere. If it was oil, I'd be rich. Damn hole was still leaking
the next morning. But I recovered and I think I saved the nail.
No, I didn't buy the saw. He wanted too much, it was right tilt, and
he have a way to power it up so I don't even know if it ran. So I'm
still trying to decide on a new cabinet saw. Grizzly, Delta,
Powermatic, General, Grizzly, Delta, Powermatic, General......???
Wes Stewart
Dave Balderstone wrote:
>Then they'll hopefully read the whole thing. If not, and they become
>Darwin Award candidates, let's hope they haven't bred yet.
But, but, then who would we get to laugh at?
>Deep breaths, Gabriel. DEEEEEEP breaths...
I'm thinking Gabby got his sense of hoomer caught in a car
door.
UA100
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 23:24:17 -0800, Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]>
wrote:
>While I was vacuuming the shop tonight, I noticed that sawdust was
>clinging to the hose and nozzle. When I touched the Shop Vac, I got
>quite a shock. There is obviously a seriously dangerous problem here,
>that could lead to sawdust explosions through static sparks, just like
>in dust collectors.
>
>So my question is how does one ground a shop vac hose? I have googled
>and, while there are many references to grounding PVC pipes and dust
>collectors, I have not seen anything about shop vacs. Have you done
>it? Or do you have any ideas on how to do it? I wouldn't want to be
>the victim of a Shop Vac explosion.
>
>TIA
>
>Luigi
>Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
go ahead and let it explode. make sure your homeowners insurance is
all paid up first.
then you can buy more tools.....
"Unisaw A100" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> mttt wrote:
>
> UA100, who is wonder, who is this guy?...
Response below in anuth'a thread. My fault for growing up in Wes-kon-sin.
Damn time for my Prozac to be on back-order. Can Merck do that?
'Sides, I know how this works.
I show up at the first Cabal breakfast.
Lot'sa laughs.
Back-slapping.
Everyone leaves - and I'm stuck with the check (cheque).
Fool me 1,312 times, shame on you.
Fool me 1,313...
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 23:24:17 -0800, Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]>
wrote:
>While I was vacuuming the shop tonight, I noticed that sawdust was
>clinging to the hose and nozzle. When I touched the Shop Vac, I got
>quite a shock. There is obviously a seriously dangerous problem here,
>that could lead to sawdust explosions through static sparks, just like
>in dust collectors.
>
>So my question is how does one ground a shop vac hose? I have googled
>and, while there are many references to grounding PVC pipes and dust
>collectors, I have not seen anything about shop vacs. Have you done
>it? Or do you have any ideas on how to do it? I wouldn't want to be
>the victim of a Shop Vac explosion.
>
I'm trying to get Keith Bohn to invest some money in my new start up
venture that addresses this very issue.
It's mostly just a piece of # 12 wire that attaches to the shop vac
hose at one end.
On the other end is a suppository.
That's why I need Keeter to get in on it.
Lest there be any innuendo concerning this - KB's involvement does not
involve the suppository but the assthetics of the piece.
The color, really.
Purple.
"...and we thank you fer yer support."
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker (ret)
Real Email is: tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet
Website: http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1
Leslie Gossett wrote:
> Do you kiss your mother and/or wife with that potty mouth?
If you think his statement was offensive, you should hear my wife. My
mother too, for that matter.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
Some part of the vac should be grounded via the wall plug so you could use
the wire trick running along the tube and tie it to some metal part on the
vac, like the motor mount screw. I'd try just attaching to the base of the
hose before playing with a long annoying wire. Maybe you could strip some
Romex wire and use that (remember to sand the connecting points to remove
the wire sealant).
I'm not sure if this will work, but I've read on here that running a wire
inside the tube, taping it to the walls will stop the buildup of
electricity. Running it on the outside is probably the second best thing to
do, and mounting it to the base may help?!?! not sure, but easy to try.
I get a hell of a zap too btw, but now with a real dust collector I don't
have the problem!
"Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> While I was vacuuming the shop tonight, I noticed that sawdust was
> clinging to the hose and nozzle. When I touched the Shop Vac, I got
> quite a shock. There is obviously a seriously dangerous problem here,
> that could lead to sawdust explosions through static sparks, just like
> in dust collectors.
>
> So my question is how does one ground a shop vac hose? I have googled
> and, while there are many references to grounding PVC pipes and dust
> collectors, I have not seen anything about shop vacs. Have you done
> it? Or do you have any ideas on how to do it? I wouldn't want to be
> the victim of a Shop Vac explosion.
>
> TIA
>
> Luigi
> Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 15:55:19 +0000, gabriel <[email protected]> wrote:
>Leslie Gossett wrote:
>
>> Do you kiss your mother and/or wife with that potty mouth?
>
>Sorry. Normally I don't cuss gratuitously, but this makes me really angry.
gabriel-
this got the responses it did because it has been so thoroughly
debunked, time and again, but still won't die.
dust explosion in a shop vac my ass.....
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 17:29:35 -0500, Tom Watson <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On the other end is a suppository.
Kee-rist. Coffee everywhere. I have a laptop. I hate you.
Michael
Dab-dabby-dab-swab-swabby-swab-dab-dabby-dab I hate you.
"gabriel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Why not joke with something less serious than electricity?
Compressed air isn't nearly as funny.
And Steam is too much work.
>
> Man, sometimes I feel like grabbing people, shaking them, and saying "WHAT
> THE **** IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?!?!?"
Me too.
Some folks take anger management classes.
Me? I've decided to raise mink.
Tom Watson wrote:
>On the other end is a suppository.
Hold on there a minute big boy. Before "we" get to far
along into this thing I think maybe you might want to hear
what happened to my brother's best friend's brother-in-law's
brother. Seems there was a particularly bad/nasty gaseous
build up and to make a long story short, shop dawg lost and
eye and the entire shop burnt down to the ground.
I am pondering other applications though.
UA100
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:25:07 GMT, Unisaw A100 <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Let it firm up and get hard and you have an abrasive belt
>cleaner.
>
>UA100
I keep getting email about viagara. will that help?