John McCoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>"Woodpecker" <[email protected]> wrote in
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>> I've been following the recent threads on handplane usage and find
>> some terms to be confusing or at least I don't know exacty what they
>> mean. Would someone explain when one or more of the following can be
>> applied to a particular plane?
>>
>> Bench Plane
>
>In general, a plane intended for working with the grain, with
>the blade mounted "bevel up".
At least when the plane is upside-down! <g>
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Woodpecker asks:
>
>I've been following the recent threads on handplane usage and find some
>terms to be confusing or at least I don't know exacty what they mean.
>Would someone explain when one or more of the following can be applied to a
>particular plane?
>
>Bench Plane
>Jack Plane
>Fore Plane
>Smoother
>Jointer
>Scrub
Check the URL in my signature. It may help some.
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Woodpecker wrote:
> I've been following the recent threads on handplane usage and find some
> terms to be confusing or at least I don't know exacty what they mean.
> Would someone explain when one or more of the following can be applied to a
> particular plane?
>
> Bench Plane
> Jack Plane
> Fore Plane
> Smoother
> Jointer
> Scrub
http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan1.htm
Blood and Gore is a very informative site. You'd do yourself a lot of
good, as well as get some enjoyment, from taking the time to read
through it. It has a terrific amount of info about all the types of
Stanley planes as well as some others. It's a good read.
Dave in Fairfax
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> "Woodpecker" wrote in message
> > I've been following the recent threads on handplane usage and find some
> > terms to be confusing or at least I don't know exacty what they mean.
> > Would someone explain when one or more of the following can be applied
to
In terms of Stanley Plane numbers a smoother is a #1 through #4 (at least I
think #1 and #2 are included but since I don't have them and don't want
them, that part is an assumption), a #5 is a jack plane (around 14 - 15
inches range), a #6 is a fore plane, and #7 and #8 planes are jointers.
A scrub is around the size of a larger smoother (I use a converted #3 as a
scrub) but it is different in that it has a convex rounded iron that makes
rounded valley instead of a flat bottomed cut.
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"Anthony Diodati" wrote ...
> Oh Yes, But I would like to have them just cause the neat.
You got me there. A friend of mine has quite an assortment of them. I'm
afraid to look at them. That #1 is so small it's scary.
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"Woodpecker" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I've been following the recent threads on handplane usage and find
> some terms to be confusing or at least I don't know exacty what they
> mean. Would someone explain when one or more of the following can be
> applied to a particular plane?
>
> Bench Plane
In general, a plane intended for working with the grain, with
the blade mounted "bevel up". The classic shaped tool that you
would think of when someone says "plane". The other large group
of planes is block planes, which are smaller planes intended for
working across the grain.
All of the following are bench planes:
> Jack Plane
An intermediate sized plane, intended for coarser tasks like the
initial smoothing of a board.
> Fore Plane
A plane in between a jack & jointer in size, usually used as a
jointer for smaller work.
> Smoother
A smaller plane, with a very narrow mouth and very sharp blade,
used for final smoothing and finishing of the work.
> Jointer
A very long plane, used for making an edge totally straight or
a surface perfectly flat.
> Scrub
A jack sized plane, configured for very coarse work. Used to
quickly remove material, in order to bring a piece of stock
close it's final dimension.
John
"JackD" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
> "John McCoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> In general, a plane intended for working with the grain, with
>> the blade mounted "bevel up". The classic shaped tool that you
>> would think of when someone says "plane".
>
> Bevel up? Really? Not in my shop.
Dang it. Lesson 1 - proof read your posts. Lesson 2 - don't
try and talk about bench planes and block planes in the same
paragraph :-)
John
"John McCoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Woodpecker" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > I've been following the recent threads on handplane usage and find
> > some terms to be confusing or at least I don't know exacty what they
> > mean. Would someone explain when one or more of the following can be
> > applied to a particular plane?
> >
> > Bench Plane
>
> In general, a plane intended for working with the grain, with
> the blade mounted "bevel up". The classic shaped tool that you
> would think of when someone says "plane".
Bevel up? Really? Not in my shop.
-Jack
You Dont want a #1 Or A # 2? I d like to have them both just to have them.
Tony D.
"Howard Ruttan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > "Woodpecker" wrote in message
> > > I've been following the recent threads on handplane usage and find
some
> > > terms to be confusing or at least I don't know exacty what they mean.
> > > Would someone explain when one or more of the following can be applied
> to
>
> In terms of Stanley Plane numbers a smoother is a #1 through #4 (at least
I
> think #1 and #2 are included but since I don't have them and don't want
> them, that part is an assumption), a #5 is a jack plane (around 14 - 15
> inches range), a #6 is a fore plane, and #7 and #8 planes are jointers.
>
> A scrub is around the size of a larger smoother (I use a converted #3 as a
> scrub) but it is different in that it has a convex rounded iron that makes
> rounded valley instead of a flat bottomed cut.
>
> --
>
> Cheers,
> Howard
>
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>
True, Might all get lucky someday.
Tony d.
"Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Anthony Diodati wrote:
> > You Dont want a #1 Or A # 2? I d like to have them both just to have
them.
>
> Me too, but I can't see spending the several thousand dollars it would
take to
> own original Stanleys in good condition!
>
> --
> To reply, change the chemical designation to its common name.
>
Oh Yes, But I would like to have them just cause the neat.
Tony D.
"Howard Ruttan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Anthony Diodati" wrote ...
> > You Dont want a #1 Or A # 2? I d like to have them both just to have
them.
>
> Nope. I like using my tools and my big mitt would never be able to hang
on
> to one of those suckers. Besides, the price would sure cover lumber for a
> lot of projects.
>
> --
>
> Cheers,
> Howard
>
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>
I added my 2 cents below
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"Woodpecker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've been following the recent threads on handplane usage and find some
> terms to be confusing or at least I don't know exacty what they mean.
> Would someone explain when one or more of the following can be applied to
a
> particular plane?
>
> Bench Plane
> Jack Plane
14" long
> Fore Plane
18" long
> Smoother
9" long
> Jointer
22 inch long
> Scrub
>
> Thanks
> Woodpecker
>
>
"Anthony Diodati" wrote ...
> You Dont want a #1 Or A # 2? I d like to have them both just to have them.
Nope. I like using my tools and my big mitt would never be able to hang on
to one of those suckers. Besides, the price would sure cover lumber for a
lot of projects.
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Cheers,
Howard
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"JackD" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
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> "John McCoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "Woodpecker" <[email protected]> wrote in
> > news:[email protected]:
> >
> > > I've been following the recent threads on handplane usage and find
> > > some terms to be confusing or at least I don't know exacty what they
> > > mean. Would someone explain when one or more of the following can be
> > > applied to a particular plane?
> > >
> > > Bench Plane
> >
> > In general, a plane intended for working with the grain, with
> > the blade mounted "bevel up". The classic shaped tool that you
> > would think of when someone says "plane".
>
> Bevel up? Really? Not in my shop.
>
> -Jack
>
>
I've seen this here before. Bench planes are bevel down, with a chip
breaker for most, but not the scrub. See horrible ascii art below.
Bevel
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The bevel is up on block planes, and they do not need or use a chipbreaker.
On a bench plane, the bedding angle is the total included angle to the work
surface. On a block plane, the bedding angle plus the bevel angle is the
total included angle. Metal bench planes are mostly set at 45 degrees,
though some smoothers are higher, such as 47.5, 50 (York pitch) and more.
Standard angle block planes are bedded at 20 degrees, so a 25 degree bevel
gives 45 degrees. Low angle block planes can be anywhere less than that,
but 12 and 18 degrees bedding anble are common values, resulting in included
angles of 37 and 43 degrees.
Cheers,
Eric