Sd

Silvan

22/10/2003 8:43 PM

Thin, slick, sticks to steel...

I made a jointing fence to use with hand planes today. It's a piece of
angle iron pop riveted to another piece of angle iron, with a hole drilled
and filed out to allow clearance for the blade, so I don't accidentally
booger up the edge. It lets me plane right to the edge of a workpiece, and
get the edge of a board straight to 90 (or realllly close to 90...) very
quickly.

It was a pretty clever way to get this done and save some money, if I do say
so myself, and I'm going to post pictures eventually.

Anyway, the only big down side so far is that the wood this fence rides
along is getting burnished. I can plane it out, but I'm particularly
worried about depositing iron on oak some day, and running into trouble.

I'd like to face out the fence with something thin, slick, and which would
stick to steel. I'd like to increase the thickness by no more than about
1/16" if possible, and there can't be any fasteners. Double sided tape
would probably be too irregular, and would add too much thickness. Maybe I
could super glue something on there, but I'm not sure what. Maybe thin
sheet brass, but that could go bad if I leave a sharp edge.

Ideas? Preferably something I could buy without having to resort to mail
order. Something laying around the house that I haven't thought of yet. :)

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Andy Dingley

in reply to Silvan on 22/10/2003 8:43 PM

24/10/2003 8:58 PM

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 01:16:18 -0400, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I do OK eyeballing it, but this was my very, very first piece of walnut,
>[...] and I wanted to get it absolutely as close to perfect as I could
>manage.

I shot my very, very first double compound mitre in walnut, and I
wanted to get it perfect without fouling up. It wasn't too bad, but
it ended up buried underground and out of sight for eternity anyway.

There's a dead guy in it.

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jJ

[email protected] (JMartin957)

in reply to Silvan on 22/10/2003 8:43 PM

23/10/2003 3:20 PM

>Anyway, the only big down side so far is that the wood this fence rides
>along is getting burnished. I can plane it out, but I'm particularly
>worried about depositing iron on oak some day, and running into trouble.


That is certainly a worry. Why don't you just use on it the same stuff you use
on the bottom of your plane?

John Martin

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to Silvan on 22/10/2003 8:43 PM

22/10/2003 7:43 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I'd like to face out the fence with something thin, slick, and which would
> stick to steel. I'd like to increase the thickness by no more than about
> 1/16" if possible, and there can't be any fasteners. Double sided tape
> would probably be too irregular, and would add too much thickness. Maybe I
> could super glue something on there, but I'm not sure what. Maybe thin
> sheet brass, but that could go bad if I leave a sharp edge.

Slippery tape:

<http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?SID=&ccurrency=1&page=32182&cate
gory=1,110,43466>

djb

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"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"

Sd

Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 22/10/2003 8:43 PM

24/10/2003 1:16 AM

Steve Knight wrote:

> a fence is nice but you are far better off learning to eyeball 90. it does
> not take that long and it is a very useful skill.

I do OK eyeballing it, but this was my very, very first piece of walnut,
Steve, and I wanted to get it absolutely as close to perfect as I could
manage.

I managed pretty well, even if I did cheat. :)

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Andy Dingley

in reply to Silvan on 22/10/2003 8:43 PM

25/10/2003 12:11 PM

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 02:54:04 GMT, Steve Knight
<[email protected]> wrote:

>you will get there. but walnut is cheep

Only that stripy American black stuff.

I had a lovely deal last year. Bought a couple of thick boards of
"American" walnut and paid accordingly. Except that it was actually
_Armenian_, which runs to at least 5x the price.

English walnut is nice (most of my stock is locally felled), but it's
still not a patch on the Caucasian stuff.

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"Tony"

in reply to Silvan on 22/10/2003 8:43 PM

22/10/2003 8:48 PM

hanging grade formica.....
tony
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I made a jointing fence to use with hand planes today. It's a piece of
> angle iron pop riveted to another piece of angle iron, with a hole drilled
> and filed out to allow clearance for the blade, so I don't accidentally
> booger up the edge. It lets me plane right to the edge of a workpiece,
and
> get the edge of a board straight to 90 (or realllly close to 90...) very
> quickly.
>
> It was a pretty clever way to get this done and save some money, if I do
say
> so myself, and I'm going to post pictures eventually.
>
> Anyway, the only big down side so far is that the wood this fence rides
> along is getting burnished. I can plane it out, but I'm particularly
> worried about depositing iron on oak some day, and running into trouble.
>
> I'd like to face out the fence with something thin, slick, and which would
> stick to steel. I'd like to increase the thickness by no more than about
> 1/16" if possible, and there can't be any fasteners. Double sided tape
> would probably be too irregular, and would add too much thickness. Maybe
I
> could super glue something on there, but I'm not sure what. Maybe thin
> sheet brass, but that could go bad if I leave a sharp edge.
>
> Ideas? Preferably something I could buy without having to resort to mail
> order. Something laying around the house that I haven't thought of yet.
:)
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
>

FK

"Frank Ketchum"

in reply to Silvan on 22/10/2003 8:43 PM

23/10/2003 1:08 AM


"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I made a jointing fence to use with hand planes today. It's a piece of
> angle iron pop riveted to another piece of angle iron, with a hole drilled
> and filed out to allow clearance for the blade, so I don't accidentally
> booger up the edge. It lets me plane right to the edge of a workpiece,
and
> get the edge of a board straight to 90 (or realllly close to 90...) very
> quickly.
>
> It was a pretty clever way to get this done and save some money, if I do
say
> so myself, and I'm going to post pictures eventually.
>
> Anyway, the only big down side so far is that the wood this fence rides
> along is getting burnished. I can plane it out, but I'm particularly
> worried about depositing iron on oak some day, and running into trouble.
>
> I'd like to face out the fence with something thin, slick, and which would
> stick to steel. I'd like to increase the thickness by no more than about
> 1/16" if possible, and there can't be any fasteners. Double sided tape
> would probably be too irregular, and would add too much thickness. Maybe
I
> could super glue something on there, but I'm not sure what. Maybe thin
> sheet brass, but that could go bad if I leave a sharp edge.
>
> Ideas? Preferably something I could buy without having to resort to mail
> order. Something laying around the house that I haven't thought of yet.
:)
>

Interesting.. Maybe flatten and polish the face like the sole of a plane and
follow with a couple good coats of wax?

Frank

Sd

Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 22/10/2003 8:43 PM

24/10/2003 8:21 PM

Andy Dingley wrote:

> wanted to get it perfect without fouling up. It wasn't too bad, but
> it ended up buried underground and out of sight for eternity anyway.
>
> There's a dead guy in it.

That's interesting.

I can't think of anything else to say. Mark your calendars. Silvan ran out
of words! :)

--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

JB

"J.B. Bobbitt"

in reply to Silvan on 22/10/2003 8:43 PM

23/10/2003 1:03 AM

You can buy thin (1/32"?) sheets or rolls of UHDP (ultra-high density
polyethylene) from Woodcraft, Rockler, etc. These sheets would glue on
easily I'd think.

Or, maybe use aluminium instead of steel.

-JBB

SK

Steve Knight

in reply to Silvan on 22/10/2003 8:43 PM

25/10/2003 2:54 AM


>I do OK eyeballing it, but this was my very, very first piece of walnut,
>Steve, and I wanted to get it absolutely as close to perfect as I could
>manage.

you will get there. but walnut is cheep worry about 25.00 or 50.00 a bf wood (G)

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Sd

Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 22/10/2003 8:43 PM

25/10/2003 1:48 AM

Steve Knight wrote:

>
>>I do OK eyeballing it, but this was my very, very first piece of walnut,
>>Steve, and I wanted to get it absolutely as close to perfect as I could
>>manage.
>
> you will get there. but walnut is cheep worry about 25.00 or 50.00 a bf
> wood (G)

You gonna send me some to practice with? :)

Nah, nevermind. Whatever it is that costs that much, I don't even need to
know about it. I have to set realistic goals. :)

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a

in reply to Silvan on 22/10/2003 8:43 PM

25/10/2003 1:05 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>Andy Dingley wrote:
>
>> wanted to get it perfect without fouling up. It wasn't too bad, but
>> it ended up buried underground and out of sight for eternity anyway.
>>
>> There's a dead guy in it.
>
>That's interesting.
>
>I can't think of anything else to say. Mark your calendars. Silvan ran out
>of words! :)

As long as it's not a grave conditon.

It was, however, part of a plot, to silence you. <grin>

SK

Steve Knight

in reply to Silvan on 22/10/2003 8:43 PM

23/10/2003 5:36 AM

a fence is nice but you are far better off learning to eyeball 90. it does not
take that long and it is a very useful skill.

--
Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes
Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices
See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions.

Sd

Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 22/10/2003 8:43 PM

24/10/2003 10:33 PM

[email protected] wrote:

>>I can't think of anything else to say. Mark your calendars. Silvan ran
>>out
>>of words! :)
>
> As long as it's not a grave conditon.

I hope not anytime in the next 100 years.

> It was, however, part of a plot, to silence you. <grin>

<smack>

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Sd

Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 22/10/2003 8:43 PM

24/10/2003 1:03 AM

Frank Ketchum wrote:

> Interesting.. Maybe flatten and polish the face like the sole of a plane
> and follow with a couple good coats of wax?

Interesting. Very interesting.

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Sd

Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 22/10/2003 8:43 PM

24/10/2003 1:05 AM

Dave Balderstone wrote:

> Slippery tape:

That's definitely something I need to add to my inventory. I can think of
half a dozen uses already.

Cool!

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Andy Dingley

in reply to Silvan on 22/10/2003 8:43 PM

25/10/2003 1:43 AM

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:21:32 -0400, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> There's a dead guy in it.
>
>That's interesting.

I did a few cremation caskets this year.

I stopped, because every time I made one, it seemed that someone I
knew died 8-(

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Sd

Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 22/10/2003 8:43 PM

24/10/2003 10:22 PM

Andy Dingley wrote:

> I did a few cremation caskets this year.
>
> I stopped, because every time I made one, it seemed that someone I
> knew died 8-(

That's not cool. :(

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GM

"George M. Kazaka"

in reply to Silvan on 22/10/2003 8:43 PM

22/10/2003 6:16 PM

Laminate a peice of High pressure Laminate with contact cement


Good Luck,
George
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I made a jointing fence to use with hand planes today. It's a piece of
> angle iron pop riveted to another piece of angle iron, with a hole drilled
> and filed out to allow clearance for the blade, so I don't accidentally
> booger up the edge. It lets me plane right to the edge of a workpiece,
and
> get the edge of a board straight to 90 (or realllly close to 90...) very
> quickly.
>
> It was a pretty clever way to get this done and save some money, if I do
say
> so myself, and I'm going to post pictures eventually.
>
> Anyway, the only big down side so far is that the wood this fence rides
> along is getting burnished. I can plane it out, but I'm particularly
> worried about depositing iron on oak some day, and running into trouble.
>
> I'd like to face out the fence with something thin, slick, and which would
> stick to steel. I'd like to increase the thickness by no more than about
> 1/16" if possible, and there can't be any fasteners. Double sided tape
> would probably be too irregular, and would add too much thickness. Maybe
I
> could super glue something on there, but I'm not sure what. Maybe thin
> sheet brass, but that could go bad if I leave a sharp edge.
>
> Ideas? Preferably something I could buy without having to resort to mail
> order. Something laying around the house that I haven't thought of yet.
:)
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
>

Js

"Jon"

in reply to Silvan on 22/10/2003 8:43 PM

22/10/2003 9:15 PM

To glue on whatever material you face it with, contact cement should stick
to that (clean) angle iron.
Jon

"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I made a jointing fence to use with hand planes today. It's a piece of
> angle iron pop riveted to another piece of angle iron, with a hole drilled
> and filed out to allow clearance for the blade, so I don't accidentally
> booger up the edge. It lets me plane right to the edge of a workpiece,
and
> get the edge of a board straight to 90 (or realllly close to 90...) very
> quickly.
>
> It was a pretty clever way to get this done and save some money, if I do
say
> so myself, and I'm going to post pictures eventually.
>
> Anyway, the only big down side so far is that the wood this fence rides
> along is getting burnished. I can plane it out, but I'm particularly
> worried about depositing iron on oak some day, and running into trouble.
>
> I'd like to face out the fence with something thin, slick, and which would
> stick to steel. I'd like to increase the thickness by no more than about
> 1/16" if possible, and there can't be any fasteners. Double sided tape
> would probably be too irregular, and would add too much thickness. Maybe
I
> could super glue something on there, but I'm not sure what. Maybe thin
> sheet brass, but that could go bad if I leave a sharp edge.
>
> Ideas? Preferably something I could buy without having to resort to mail
> order. Something laying around the house that I haven't thought of yet.
:)
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
>


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