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[email protected] (Mark Wells)

29/11/2003 9:36 AM

Cabinet Master clamp failed

I bought some of the Jorgensen Cabinet Master clamps during the sale
Woodcraft was having. While tightening one of the 48" clamps by hand,
the clamping mechanism inside the head snapped and broke into two
pieces. Now the clamp is completely useless.

As expected, Woodcraft is providing excellent service. They are going
to replace it and pay for shipping both ways.

Anybody else have Cabinet Master clamps fail under hand tightening?

Mark


This topic has 19 replies

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to [email protected] (Mark Wells) on 29/11/2003 9:36 AM

01/12/2003 1:19 AM

Windy Wood wrote:
>Good God fellas, how much tension did you put on 'em? All you need to do
>is bring the pieces together. If you need to use that much pressure the
>pieces are not prepared properly.


Actually Wind, I can call you Wind, can I?, well it was like
this. I was doing a panel glue up. Doing it just like my
Daddy taught me. Joint the boards to a true straight edge,
dribble on just enough glue so that when the clamps brought
the boards tight they'd look like the dewey sweat off of,
well, you know. So anyway, there I am bringing the boards
together, not really putting a lot of pressure on the
handles and just about when I expect to be feeling pressure
I'm not. I'm just standing there screwing and screwing and
screwing and screwing and screwing until, plop, off comes
the head.

So in a nut shell, less than what was needed.

UA100

WW

Windy Wood

in reply to [email protected] (Mark Wells) on 29/11/2003 9:36 AM

30/11/2003 10:38 PM

Good God fellas, how much tension did you put on 'em? All you need to do
is bring the pieces together. If you need to use that much pressure the
pieces are not prepared properly.
Windy Wood

Unisaw A100 wrote:

> George Berlinger wrote:
> >Did they re-place the Bessey clamps for you....
>
> They, the retailer? Yes they do but its a wee bit of a pain
> to be taking them back. OK, actually, I wait until all of
> them are coming/came off and make one trip.
>
> Doesn't help much either when its in the middle of a glue up
> or assembly.
>
> I've never had a Pony clamp come apart.
>
> UA100, still not a full fledged member of the Jihad...

GB

"George Berlinger"

in reply to [email protected] (Mark Wells) on 29/11/2003 9:36 AM

29/11/2003 3:08 PM

Did they re-place the Bessey clamps for you....

"Unisaw A100" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mark Wells wrote:
> >Anybody else have Cabinet Master clamps fail under hand tightening?
>
>
> No but I've blown the heads off eight Bessy UniKlamps so
> far.
>
> UA100, who always believes in balance...

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to [email protected] (Mark Wells) on 29/11/2003 9:36 AM

30/11/2003 1:21 AM

George Berlinger wrote:
>Did they re-place the Bessey clamps for you....

They, the retailer? Yes they do but its a wee bit of a pain
to be taking them back. OK, actually, I wait until all of
them are coming/came off and make one trip.

Doesn't help much either when its in the middle of a glue up
or assembly.

I've never had a Pony clamp come apart.

UA100, still not a full fledged member of the Jihad...

DF

"David F. Eisan"

in reply to [email protected] (Mark Wells) on 29/11/2003 9:36 AM

01/12/2003 12:49 PM

> > I'm just standing there screwing and screwing and
> > screwing and screwing and screwing until, plop, off comes
> > the head.

> Well Uni, when you hit old age, after eyesight that's what they say goes
> next. I'm sure someone will correct me, but I don't even think Viagra
> can help out your situation.

What did the hooker say to the Lepper?

Thanks for the tip.

aM

[email protected] (Mike at American Sycamore)

in reply to [email protected] (Mark Wells) on 29/11/2003 9:36 AM

30/11/2003 4:18 PM

[email protected] (Mark Wells) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I bought some of the Jorgensen Cabinet Master clamps during the sale
> Woodcraft was having. While tightening one of the 48" clamps by hand,
> the clamping mechanism inside the head snapped and broke into two
> pieces. Now the clamp is completely useless.
>
> As expected, Woodcraft is providing excellent service. They are going
> to replace it and pay for shipping both ways.
>
> Anybody else have Cabinet Master clamps fail under hand tightening?
>
> Mark

Mark:

I have had several brake the same as you....when talking with
Adjustable clamp last week they reported that they had a problem over
a year ago when mine where produced...but they report that now the
problem is all worked out....sure does'nt sound like it?????

Mike from American Sycamore

LL

LRod

in reply to [email protected] (Mark Wells) on 29/11/2003 9:36 AM

30/11/2003 2:07 AM

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:50:58 GMT, Unisaw A100 <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Mark Wells wrote:
>>Anybody else have Cabinet Master clamps fail under hand tightening?
>
>
>No but I've blown the heads off eight Bessy UniKlamps so
>far.

Just for the record, you are talking about the grey UniKlamps, not the
red (or black in Europe) K-bodies, right?

LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to [email protected] (Mark Wells) on 29/11/2003 9:36 AM

29/11/2003 7:50 PM

Mark Wells wrote:
>Anybody else have Cabinet Master clamps fail under hand tightening?


No but I've blown the heads off eight Bessy UniKlamps so
far.

UA100, who always believes in balance...

FC

Fly-by-Night CC

in reply to [email protected] (Mark Wells) on 29/11/2003 9:36 AM

30/11/2003 10:07 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Unisaw A100 <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm just standing there screwing and screwing and
> screwing and screwing and screwing until, plop, off comes
> the head.

Well Uni, when you hit old age, after eyesight that's what they say goes
next. I'm sure someone will correct me, but I don't even think Viagra
can help out your situation.

--
Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company
Offering a shim for the Porter-Cable 557 type 2 fence design.
<http://www.flybynightcoppercompany.com>
<http://www.easystreet.com/~onlnlowe/index.html>

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to [email protected] (Mark Wells) on 29/11/2003 9:36 AM

30/11/2003 6:40 AM

LROD:
>Just for the record, you are talking about the grey UniKlamps, not the
>red (or black in Europe) K-bodies, right?

A'yup. The gray (grey LROD/David) ones that say UniKlamp on
the side.

What they end up being is the standard (1) F-clamp with some
plastic at the head and handle to give them the K-body look.
Truthfully I think they aren't so bad and when they are new
(head not coming off) they are the first clamps I reach for
onna 'count of they have a pretty good action/nice feel when
they are being tightened.

Something else I've noticed, the little 4" Bessy F-clamps,
the ones you get at the wooddorking shows for real cheap
($4), over time they don't quite want to behave like they
did when they were youngsters. They have a tendency to
twist and wander while they are being tightened.

(1) Anyone ever have the F-clamps come apart?

UA100

jJ

[email protected] (J Pagona aka Y.B.)

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 30/11/2003 6:40 AM

30/11/2003 9:43 PM

>From: Unisaw A100

>
>(1) Anyone ever have the F-clamps come apart?

Nope, but the 6" Bessey F clamps I bought 4 years ago give me fits sometimes.
I much prefer the German made F clamps I bought from Garrett Wade.

David

who has never had a problem with either the K Bodies or the Cabinet Masters,
except that I'm running out of room to store them because I keep buying more of
each, depending upon what it cheaper.

Nn

Nova

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 30/11/2003 6:40 AM

01/12/2003 1:30 AM

Unisaw A100 wrote:

> Bridger:
> >and that one was a freebie, IIRC....
>
> A'yup! Sent it to me onna 'count of I'm a whiny bahstad.
>
> UA100

A'yup!, but it only works once. ;-)

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
(Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)

n

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 30/11/2003 6:40 AM

30/11/2003 3:59 PM

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:31:25 -0600, Unisaw A100 <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Yo Bupkiss:
>>who has never had a problem with either the K Bodies or the Cabinet Masters,
>>except that I'm running out of room to store them because I keep buying more of
>>each, depending upon what it cheaper.
>
>
>Oh why don't you collectively bite us!
>
>UA100, owner of one K-body, thanks Jack...


and that one was a freebie, IIRC....

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 30/11/2003 6:40 AM

01/12/2003 1:20 AM

Bridger:
>and that one was a freebie, IIRC....


A'yup! Sent it to me onna 'count of I'm a whiny bahstad.

UA100

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 30/11/2003 6:40 AM

30/11/2003 4:31 PM

Yo Bupkiss:
>who has never had a problem with either the K Bodies or the Cabinet Masters,
>except that I'm running out of room to store them because I keep buying more of
>each, depending upon what it cheaper.


Oh why don't you collectively bite us!

UA100, owner of one K-body, thanks Jack...

jJ

[email protected] (J Pagona aka Y.B.)

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 30/11/2003 4:31 PM

01/12/2003 1:00 AM

>From: Unisaw A100

>Yo Bupkiss:

>Oh why don't you collectively bite us!
>
>UA100, owner of one K-body, thanks Jack...

So says the man with how many table saws, lathes and band saws? Hmmmm? And
how big is the Starrett collection now? Hmmmmm?

Truth be told, the problem is less a plethora of high dollar clamps, and more a
lack of good clamp storage space in the one-car/no-car-garage. Maybe once I
use up some of the curly maple, walnut and cherry that have my wood rack filled
to capacity, I can use some of the space for clamps.

David
who is way more proud of having accumulated 25 gallons of blood donation
credits than 12 excellent but expensive clamps.

Gg

"Groggy"

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 30/11/2003 4:31 PM

01/12/2003 5:58 AM


"J Pagona aka Y.B." wrote in message ...
snip>
> David
> who is way more proud of having accumulated 25 gallons of blood donation
> credits than 12 excellent but expensive clamps.

I have a problem with sharp chisels too, but 25 gallons! Dang! <g>

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 30/11/2003 4:31 PM

01/12/2003 1:21 AM

J Pagona aka Y.B. wrote:
>Truth be told, the problem is less a plethora of high dollar clamps, and more a
>lack of good clamp storage space in the one-car/no-car-garage. Maybe once I
>use up some of the curly maple, walnut and cherry that have my wood rack filled
>to capacity, I can use some of the space for clamps.

And he comes back to taunt us more.

>who is way more proud of having accumulated 25 gallons of blood donation
>credits than 12 excellent but expensive clamps.

Wow! Congrats.

UA100

Dd

DLGlos

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 30/11/2003 4:31 PM

02/12/2003 3:56 PM


>David
>who is way more proud of having accumulated 25 gallons of blood donation
>credits than 12 excellent but expensive clamps.


Are those blood donation credits like Canandian Tire funny munny....as
in, can they be traded for more clamps?

Just kidding. Way to go on the regular bleeds.

DLG


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