I have decided I would like to try to find an apprenticeship somewhere for a
year or two, if I can find the right circumstance. I would like to train
under someone really well respected, such as many did in the old days, under
the likes of a Krenov.
I would like to find someone who does a fair bit of built-ins and millwork
and such as well as just furniture. High end libraries and such really
interest me. I prefer more traditional work than the modern or very
artistic mediums.
I have made a small list of the people I have heard about so far, and I have
had decent responses from those I have contacted. I would like others input
into masters in your area I could perhaps contact...I am not too concerned
about where the location is, more the person and the work being done.
Anywhere in North America is easy, and I would even consider something in
Great Britain or near there.
I figure I am relatively young, and I have no ties to keep me from venturing
for a while, so I should take advantage of this ability. I would prefer a
situation that would pay me enough of a wage to cover basic living expenses,
but I would also consider non-paying situations as well. I don't think I
like the idea of paying someone a big sum to work for them, I think with
some exceptions those circumstances are a bit of a scam, or only for the
young very inexperienced.
I know how good I am, and I know how good I'd like to be....I plan to make
sure I get there.
Thanks in advance to all those that contribute info.
Dan Hamill
Atlantic Canada
Thu, Apr 22, 2004, 12:30am (EDT+4) [email protected]
(Dan=A0Hamill) says:
I have decided I would like to try to find an apprenticeship somewhere
for a year or two, <snip>
In my case, it would be a tossup between apprenticing to Red Green
or Ron Jeremy.
JOAT
The Good are Innocent so they invented Justice. The Evil are Guilty so
they invented Mercy.
- Unknown
Thu, Apr 22, 2004, 7:02am supposedly from [email protected]
(Bay=A0Area=A0Dave) but actually by the little troll:
<snip of basic troll crap>
LMAO You are almost getting funny. Almost. Waaay too much of a
dork to be laughed with tho, still laughed at. And, yes, I spotted that
you're the troll, not the real B.A.D., so easy to spot your posts. For
one thing, you're ignorant. For another, you are so obscessed with male
genetalia, etc. There are other signs too, but I won't give them away,
might make you harder to spot as quickly. But, don't worry, probably
even you will get sex - one day - maybe. LOL You're what, about 12,
13? Learn some social skills.
For those that haven't guessed, the troll is trying to impersonate
Bay Area Dave again.
JOAT
The Good are Innocent so they invented Justice. The Evil are Guilty so
they invented Mercy.
- Unknown
he impersonates others because he has no identity and no
life...he undoubtedly is out on parole.
dave
J T wrote:
> Thu, Apr 22, 2004, 7:02am supposedly from [email protected]
> (Bay Area Dave) but actually by the little troll:
> <snip of basic troll crap>
>
> LMAO You are almost getting funny. Almost. Waaay too much of a
> dork to be laughed with tho, still laughed at. And, yes, I spotted that
> you're the troll, not the real B.A.D., so easy to spot your posts. For
> one thing, you're ignorant. For another, you are so obscessed with male
> genetalia, etc. There are other signs too, but I won't give them away,
> might make you harder to spot as quickly. But, don't worry, probably
> even you will get sex - one day - maybe. LOL You're what, about 12,
> 13? Learn some social skills.
>
> For those that haven't guessed, the troll is trying to impersonate
> Bay Area Dave again.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> The Good are Innocent so they invented Justice. The Evil are Guilty so
> they invented Mercy.
> - Unknown
>
If he were alive, George Nakashima. He has a daughter, I'm sure she
learned a great deal from her father.
Otherwise, Christian Becksvoort, Seth Janovski (learned from James
Krenov) Gary Rogowski.
If architectural stuff was my interest, Tom Plamann.
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 00:30:24 GMT, "Dan Hamill"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I have decided I would like to try to find an apprenticeship somewhere for a
>year or two, if I can find the right circumstance. I would like to train
>under someone really well respected, such as many did in the old days, under
>the likes of a Krenov.
>
>I would like to find someone who does a fair bit of built-ins and millwork
>and such as well as just furniture. High end libraries and such really
>interest me. I prefer more traditional work than the modern or very
>artistic mediums.
>
>I have made a small list of the people I have heard about so far, and I have
>had decent responses from those I have contacted. I would like others input
>into masters in your area I could perhaps contact...I am not too concerned
>about where the location is, more the person and the work being done.
>Anywhere in North America is easy, and I would even consider something in
>Great Britain or near there.
>
>I figure I am relatively young, and I have no ties to keep me from venturing
>for a while, so I should take advantage of this ability. I would prefer a
>situation that would pay me enough of a wage to cover basic living expenses,
>but I would also consider non-paying situations as well. I don't think I
>like the idea of paying someone a big sum to work for them, I think with
>some exceptions those circumstances are a bit of a scam, or only for the
>young very inexperienced.
>
>I know how good I am, and I know how good I'd like to be....I plan to make
>sure I get there.
>
>Thanks in advance to all those that contribute info.
>
>Dan Hamill
>Atlantic Canada
>
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> Michael Fortune
> Darryl Keil
> Andrew Crawford
>
I recognize the first two, who is Andrew Crawford?
On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:09:54 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Barss
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote:
>: In article <[email protected]>,
>: [email protected] says...
>:>
>:> Michael Fortune
>:> Darryl Keil
>:> Andrew Crawford
>:>
>
>: I recognize the first two, who is Andrew Crawford?
>
>
>A superb boxmaker. See:
>
>www.fine-boxes.com
>
>
> -- Andy Barss
Yep, can't disagree with that. Very nice stuff. Thanks for the link.
Tom has my vote too. I've seen the magazines, TV shows etc and ther are
certainly a lot of talented folks out there but there is something about
Tom's work that just really humbles me. I would love the opportunity to try
my hand at the type of work he does. Strangely enough though, I also love
building custom, one-off types of smaller furniture pieces like tables and
cabinetry.
This makes me think that another thread might be in order some day. Some
thing along the lines of the 'types' of woodworking and associated topics
like -
Can you get really good at more than 1 type of woodworking, or do most
people specialize ?
Are there really types or catagories e.g. architectural, cabinetry,
furniture, etc ?
Or are they all really the same skillset with just a different personal
preference or frame of mind ?
See what I'm getting at ? Sort of puts me in mind of a recent topic
comparing a the cabinetmaker and carpenter titles. ( Actually I'm just
rambling - just got off an airplane and happy I get to sleep in my own bed
this week after traveling for the last 4 weeks.)
jim bailey
"Donnie Vazquez" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I don't know if he takes apprentices but my choice would be Tom Plamman.
> He has a website, if you DAGS you'll find it. The guy's work is
> phenomenal and seems to be exactly the kind of thing you're looking for.
>
> --
>
> Donnie Vazquez
> Sunderland, MD
> remove NoSpam from address to reply
>
>
Thanks.....they are good examples. I agree with most that Tom Plamann is
who I would pick as my first choice, and I have been in contact and will be
considered when he has his next opening. I have also been in contact and
was close to going to work with David Marks.
I would love more examples of choices if people have them. I am enrolled in
a class at Rosewood Studio in May, so hopefully I can get some information
and contacts there as well.
Thanks again all,
Dan
"Andrew Barss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Michael Fortune
> Darryl Keil
> Andrew Crawford
>
>
> -- Andy Barss
>
Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote:
: In article <[email protected]>,
: [email protected] says...
:>
:> Michael Fortune
:> Darryl Keil
:> Andrew Crawford
:>
: I recognize the first two, who is Andrew Crawford?
A superb boxmaker. See:
www.fine-boxes.com
-- Andy Barss
Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:09:54 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Barss
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote:
> >: In article <[email protected]>,
> >: [email protected] says...
> >:>
> >:> Michael Fortune
> >:> Darryl Keil
> >:> Andrew Crawford
> >:>
>
> >: I recognize the first two, who is Andrew Crawford?
> >
> >
> >A superb boxmaker. See:
> >
> >www.fine-boxes.com
> >
> >
> > -- Andy Barss
>
> Yep, can't disagree with that. Very nice stuff. Thanks for the link.
Yep Tom gets my first choice.
Ya think we may convince him in holding classes or getting his own TV show?
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:30:27 -0400, Donnie Vazquez <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I don't know if he takes apprentices but my choice would be Tom Plamman.
>He has a website, if you DAGS you'll find it. The guy's work is
>phenomenal and seems to be exactly the kind of thing you're looking for.
If he could pay me enough to live (ie. some, but not much), I'd apprentice for
Ian Kirby tomorrow. He tells it like it is, is very well written, and appears
to have had extensive practical experience. That'd be enough for me.
JP