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"JPEracing"

06/03/2004 7:01 AM

Butternut

As I understand Butternut is a close relative to Walnut. Workability is
supposed to be the same as Walnut.
Wifey wants a entertainment center for the big screen tv and I have an
oppurtunity to by several hundred bd. ft of it at a very resonable price.
Have done a bit of looking on the web but have found little in the way of
information.
Can anyone share there expreriances working Butternut ?
Thanks


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BRuce

in reply to "JPEracing" on 06/03/2004 7:01 AM

06/03/2004 8:03 AM

"White Walnut", I like that.

I have use some for a small project. It cuts, sands, planes, scrapes
just like walnut. I clear finished mine and I do like the grain patterns.

Charlie Self wrote:
> John Edwards asks:
>
>
>>As I understand Butternut is a close relative to Walnut. Workability is
>>supposed to be the same as Walnut.
>>Wifey wants a entertainment center for the big screen tv and I have an
>>oppurtunity to by several hundred bd. ft of it at a very resonable price.
>>Have done a bit of looking on the web but have found little in the way of
>>information.
>
>
> Looks like walnut, if stained: figure and grain patterns are similar, but wood
> is a much lighter color. Works a lot like walnut, but...it is softer, lighter
> (not much heavier than a light pine), not nearly as strong (make those 4/4
> shelves 5/4), needs filling (walnut can use filling, doesn't need it), works
> very easily, finishes well. In other words, it works about like walnut, when
> stained it looks like walnut, but it is not as strong, nor as hard.
>
> Depending on the price, it's a good substitute. Of course, you could always
> clear finish it, and tell people what it really is, "white walnut". Great for
> confusion purposes amongst non-woodworkers.
>
> Charlie Self
> "Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable." Mark Twain
>
> http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html

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[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "JPEracing" on 06/03/2004 7:01 AM

06/03/2004 12:04 PM

John Edwards asks:

>As I understand Butternut is a close relative to Walnut. Workability is
>supposed to be the same as Walnut.
>Wifey wants a entertainment center for the big screen tv and I have an
>oppurtunity to by several hundred bd. ft of it at a very resonable price.
>Have done a bit of looking on the web but have found little in the way of
>information.

Looks like walnut, if stained: figure and grain patterns are similar, but wood
is a much lighter color. Works a lot like walnut, but...it is softer, lighter
(not much heavier than a light pine), not nearly as strong (make those 4/4
shelves 5/4), needs filling (walnut can use filling, doesn't need it), works
very easily, finishes well. In other words, it works about like walnut, when
stained it looks like walnut, but it is not as strong, nor as hard.

Depending on the price, it's a good substitute. Of course, you could always
clear finish it, and tell people what it really is, "white walnut". Great for
confusion purposes amongst non-woodworkers.

Charlie Self
"Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable." Mark Twain

http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html

Gs

"George"

in reply to "JPEracing" on 06/03/2004 7:01 AM

06/03/2004 5:00 PM

It's about like walnut sapwood, it seems to me. Great carving wood, as it's
not too hard, yet holds detail well.

Wonder if it could be steamed with walnut shavings like when they steam
walnut to match sapwood?

"Mike Hide" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Bjn2c.57357$ko6.405195@attbi_s02...
> basically my experience is the same as Charlie's in all respects. The wood
> is much softer than black walnut [juglans nigra]. Butternut is not Juglans
> nigra, black walnut, but is definately a member of the walnut family
> .Butternut, is also known as white walnut designated as Juglans
> cineria.....mjh

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to "JPEracing" on 06/03/2004 7:01 AM

06/03/2004 5:20 PM

It has a tendency to fuzz a little when sanded. The
preference would be towards scraping to avoid this.

Otherwise, ditto what everyone else said/says.

UA100

fh

in reply to "JPEracing" on 06/03/2004 7:01 AM

06/03/2004 10:56 AM

"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<aDk2c.21473$%[email protected]>...
> "JPEracing" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > As I understand Butternut is a close relative to Walnut. Workability is
> > supposed to be the same as Walnut.
> > Wifey wants a entertainment center for the big screen tv and I have an
> > oppurtunity to by several hundred bd. ft of it at a very resonable price.
> > Have done a bit of looking on the web but have found little in the way of
> > information.
> > Can anyone share there expreriances working Butternut ?
> > Thanks
>
> IMO, it is a nice wood on its own, but it is NOT walnut. It has similar
> grain pattern as it comes from the same family. It is lighter in weight,
> lighter in color. You'd have to stain it to make it look like walnut. In
> the end, it would be stained butternut, it is not walnut. If you like it,
> buy it. I just used it natural and it looks good.

Basically, I'd agree with what others have said: it's markedly softer
than walnut, similar grain patterns. Works nicely with 'lectricity or
muscle power, however, so it's great for light duty projects -- i.e. I
wouldn't make a dining room table from butternut. I would consider it
for use in a sideboard or similar.

Good luck!

hex
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MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to "JPEracing" on 06/03/2004 7:01 AM

07/03/2004 3:11 PM

Young_carpenter wrote:

> If you desire I will either send pictures of wood and project
> or post them on ABPW.

Please post 'em to abpw - just can't have too much inspiration!

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Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA

YF

"Young_carpenter"

in reply to "JPEracing" on 06/03/2004 7:01 AM

07/03/2004 4:03 PM

This fall I did a Pantry out of Butternut. It was a pleasure (for the most
part) to work with. There is a slight difference in look than maybe walnut
but some of it even has coloration of a lighter walnut (yes I have seen not
sap wood walnut in a light brown). A good description might be
whitish-brown base color with dark brown swirls through it. some of it
looked like a marble cake. I had some that had a sort of Lacewood pattern
in it (very cool) some had a three dimensional pattern (similar to the lace
wood) a few pieces had no pattern at all. All this from supposedly the same
tree. Mine was air dried 7+ years too so this may make a difference in some
colorations and patterns.
It smells like walnut and I would take the same precautions with it like
walnut dust (which has a reputation to be an irritant). It works nicely and
it didn't splinter quite like walnut will do, probably because it is softer.
I had to hand plane some of the edges (for lack of a jointer) and a sharp
plane can make a huge curl :) I had little problem with fuzz. Also Mine
came in spalted form so it added even more interest to the piece. An
entertainment cabinet would look wonderful. As I indicated before, grain
patterns very so plan accordingly.
If you desire I will either send pictures of wood and project or post them
on ABPW.
--


"JPEracing" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> As I understand Butternut is a close relative to Walnut. Workability is
> supposed to be the same as Walnut.
> Wifey wants a entertainment center for the big screen tv and I have an
> oppurtunity to by several hundred bd. ft of it at a very resonable price.
> Have done a bit of looking on the web but have found little in the way of
> information.
> Can anyone share there expreriances working Butternut ?
> Thanks
>
>


MH

"Mike Hide"

in reply to "JPEracing" on 06/03/2004 7:01 AM

06/03/2004 4:50 PM

basically my experience is the same as Charlie's in all respects. The wood
is much softer than black walnut [juglans nigra]. Butternut is not Juglans
nigra, black walnut, but is definately a member of the walnut family
.Butternut, is also known as white walnut designated as Juglans
cineria.....mjh



"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:aDk2c.21473$%[email protected]...
>
> "JPEracing" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > As I understand Butternut is a close relative to Walnut. Workability is
> > supposed to be the same as Walnut.
> > Wifey wants a entertainment center for the big screen tv and I have an
> > oppurtunity to by several hundred bd. ft of it at a very resonable
price.
> > Have done a bit of looking on the web but have found little in the way
of
> > information.
> > Can anyone share there expreriances working Butternut ?
> > Thanks
>
> IMO, it is a nice wood on its own, but it is NOT walnut. It has similar
> grain pattern as it comes from the same family. It is lighter in weight,
> lighter in color. You'd have to stain it to make it look like walnut. In
> the end, it would be stained butternut, it is not walnut. If you like it,
> buy it. I just used it natural and it looks good.
>
> Ed
> [email protected]
> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
>
>

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "JPEracing" on 06/03/2004 7:01 AM

06/03/2004 1:46 PM


"JPEracing" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> As I understand Butternut is a close relative to Walnut. Workability is
> supposed to be the same as Walnut.
> Wifey wants a entertainment center for the big screen tv and I have an
> oppurtunity to by several hundred bd. ft of it at a very resonable price.
> Have done a bit of looking on the web but have found little in the way of
> information.
> Can anyone share there expreriances working Butternut ?
> Thanks

IMO, it is a nice wood on its own, but it is NOT walnut. It has similar
grain pattern as it comes from the same family. It is lighter in weight,
lighter in color. You'd have to stain it to make it look like walnut. In
the end, it would be stained butternut, it is not walnut. If you like it,
buy it. I just used it natural and it looks good.

Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "JPEracing" on 06/03/2004 7:01 AM

06/03/2004 10:19 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
>It is a very nice traditional wood. Not quite as durable as oak,
>maple, or cherry. Butternut is known as "white oak."

You mean white walnut, dontcha? :-)

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Phisherman

in reply to "JPEracing" on 06/03/2004 7:01 AM

07/03/2004 2:55 AM

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 22:19:52 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>It is a very nice traditional wood. Not quite as durable as oak,
>>maple, or cherry. Butternut is known as "white oak."
>
>You mean white walnut, dontcha? :-)

Yup (I had white oak on the brain recently.)

Ks

"Keith"

in reply to "JPEracing" on 06/03/2004 7:01 AM

06/03/2004 5:03 PM

I've also heard it referred to as "Poor man's Walnut".

If I'm not mistaken there was a page on Butternut in one of the woodworking
magazines not to long ago. I'll try to find it.

KP

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in reply to "JPEracing" on 06/03/2004 7:01 AM

07/03/2004 6:31 AM

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 07:01:01 -0500, "JPEracing" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>As I understand Butternut is a close relative to Walnut. Workability is
>supposed to be the same as Walnut.
>Wifey wants a entertainment center for the big screen tv and I have an
>oppurtunity to by several hundred bd. ft of it at a very resonable price.
>Have done a bit of looking on the web but have found little in the way of
>information.
>Can anyone share there expreriances working Butternut ?
>Thanks
>

Couple of years ago I made a pair of antique gun display cases for a friend of
mine, who balked at the original price estimate I gave him for walnut.
Butternut, when stained, was an excellent substitute. Kinda fuzzy while working
it, but the light weight definitely was a plus, since these cases hung on a
wall.

Tom Flyer

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Phisherman

in reply to "JPEracing" on 06/03/2004 7:01 AM

06/03/2004 4:55 PM

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 07:01:01 -0500, "JPEracing"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>As I understand Butternut is a close relative to Walnut. Workability is
>supposed to be the same as Walnut.
>Wifey wants a entertainment center for the big screen tv and I have an
>oppurtunity to by several hundred bd. ft of it at a very resonable price.
>Have done a bit of looking on the web but have found little in the way of
>information.
>Can anyone share there expreriances working Butternut ?
>Thanks
>

It is a very nice traditional wood. Not quite as durable as oak,
maple, or cherry. Butternut is known as "white oak." It is a good
choice for a large piece of furniture due to its light weight. It
works easily with tools and carves well. Buy it!


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