JB

"Jay Bergmaninni"

19/11/2003 5:15 PM

Newbie - Veneer

I am a newbie to woodworking. I know what wood veneer BUT... Is it a good
covering for shelves in a bookcase? Is it strong? How do you install it?

Thanks for your help in advance.

--
Regards,

Jay


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SB

Scott Brownell

in reply to "Jay Bergmaninni" on 19/11/2003 5:15 PM

19/11/2003 6:18 PM

Jay Bergmaninni wrote:
>
> I am a newbie to woodworking. I know what wood veneer BUT... Is it a good
> covering for shelves in a bookcase? Is it strong? How do you install it?
>
> Thanks for your help in advance.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Jay

What are you using for the shelves themselves? How wide are they? We
really need more info than you're providing so far.

Scott
--
An unkind remark is like a killing frost. No matter how much it warms
up later, the damage remains.

cb

charlie b

in reply to "Jay Bergmaninni" on 19/11/2003 5:15 PM

20/11/2003 11:54 PM

I suspect the $/sf price for some of the veneer at

www.saratogatreeservice.com (click on "Veneer" )

might cause some to choke and scoff. But to others
who know what they're looking at, Blair's stuff is
pretty damn good and in the right price range for
the quality. Many of the photos don't come close
to doing the real thing justice.

He'd rather keep the trees alive, but if he can't
he'll cut them up, wait a year or two and give
them another go at being useful. He's got a real
work bench going. The base is out of 8x8s so you
know this one's going to be a serious bench. I
think he's building it where it's going to be used
'cause when he's done it's going to take a fork
lift to move it if he changes his mind. Will try
to post some pics if he's willing.

disclaimer
I have no financial connections to Saratoga Tree
Service or with Blair.

charlie b

JB

"Jay Bergmaninni"

in reply to "Jay Bergmaninni" on 19/11/2003 5:15 PM

19/11/2003 9:24 PM

Thanks to all for your valuable information. I wasn't going to try it
without some guidance from the experts.

--
Regards,

Jay

"PPH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Veneering is not too difficult. It just takes a little practice and a few
> simple tools. A few must haves:
> Good contact cement
> J roller
> masking tape
> sharp utility knife with plenty of blades
> straight edge
>
> Some veneer require a solution to make it pliable.
>
> Decide the order in which you want to veneer. I prefer to veneer faces and
> then the top, but you make your own preference.
> Cut strips of the veneer allowing plenty of over hang, this will be
trimmed
> later.
> Apply contact cement on the face. Then apply on the veneer strip. Allow to
> dry till tacky. Apply the veneer to the work. Contact cement is just what
> the name implies CONTACT CEMENT. Once the two surfaces make a good contact
> there is no going back. Make sure you line it up right the first time!
>
> Smooth the surface with the J roller then trim the overhang with a sharp
> utility knife, or you can buy a cutter specifically designed to trim
veneer.
> I then take a palm sander and smooth the edges perfectly flat.
>
> Now repeat the process for all the sides. When applying veneer to large
> surfaces (such a the top of shelf) Lay flat strips of wood shims accross
> the work then lay the veneer on top of the shims. These shims keep the
> veneer off the work so you can line everything up. Line the veneer where
you
> want it and pull out the middle shim, press the veneer in place then
remove
> the next shim. then so on until all the shims are out. When j rolling
this
> large surface roll from the middle to the outside.
> Now trim this with a trimmer or knife, and sand the piece.
>
> The best way to learn is to try, so what the hell, go for it!
>
> One thing I forgot, clean the surface with a tack cloth before aplying
> contact cement. Also, apply cement is a WELL ventelated room, this is some
> nasty stuff!
>
>
>

HR

"Howard Ruttan"

in reply to "Jay Bergmaninni" on 19/11/2003 5:15 PM

19/11/2003 2:09 PM


"Jay Bergmaninni" wrote ...
> I am a newbie to woodworking. I know what wood veneer BUT... Is it a good
> covering for shelves in a bookcase? Is it strong? How do you install it?

Yes it is. It is as strong as its substrate. How you install it would
require a response the size of a book. "Do you know a good book on..."
would probably have been a better question. I don't have one so I can't
recommend one reliably.

However, what is wrong with plywood for your shelves? Whether you veneer a
substrate or use plywood to match whatever wood you are using, you still
have to do an edge treatment. So, why not use plywood? It's already
veneered and would take you a lot less time and effort.

--

Cheers,
Howard

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Working wood in New Jersey - [email protected]
Visit me in the woodshop - www.inthewoodshop.org

Pn

"PPH"

in reply to "Jay Bergmaninni" on 19/11/2003 5:15 PM

19/11/2003 2:39 PM

Veneering is not too difficult. It just takes a little practice and a few
simple tools. A few must haves:
Good contact cement
J roller
masking tape
sharp utility knife with plenty of blades
straight edge

Some veneer require a solution to make it pliable.

Decide the order in which you want to veneer. I prefer to veneer faces and
then the top, but you make your own preference.
Cut strips of the veneer allowing plenty of over hang, this will be trimmed
later.
Apply contact cement on the face. Then apply on the veneer strip. Allow to
dry till tacky. Apply the veneer to the work. Contact cement is just what
the name implies CONTACT CEMENT. Once the two surfaces make a good contact
there is no going back. Make sure you line it up right the first time!

Smooth the surface with the J roller then trim the overhang with a sharp
utility knife, or you can buy a cutter specifically designed to trim veneer.
I then take a palm sander and smooth the edges perfectly flat.

Now repeat the process for all the sides. When applying veneer to large
surfaces (such a the top of shelf) Lay flat strips of wood shims accross
the work then lay the veneer on top of the shims. These shims keep the
veneer off the work so you can line everything up. Line the veneer where you
want it and pull out the middle shim, press the veneer in place then remove
the next shim. then so on until all the shims are out. When j rolling this
large surface roll from the middle to the outside.
Now trim this with a trimmer or knife, and sand the piece.

The best way to learn is to try, so what the hell, go for it!

One thing I forgot, clean the surface with a tack cloth before aplying
contact cement. Also, apply cement is a WELL ventelated room, this is some
nasty stuff!


JB

"Jay Bergmaninni"

in reply to "Jay Bergmaninni" on 19/11/2003 5:15 PM

20/11/2003 4:18 PM

I am trying to build 'built-in' bookcases with a space in between for a
large-screen TV. So, picture a wall that is 9.5 feet high by 15 feet wide. I
want to
build two bookcases with underneath cabinets on the left of the TV, two on
the right. One unit connecting both side over the TV. It seems daunting.

Each shelf should be around 20-30 inches wide. These shelves will be for
books.

Anyone have any plans for sale?


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Regards,

James Bergman
Financial Systems Architects
(212) 657 - 5089
[email protected]

"Scott Brownell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Jay Bergmaninni wrote:
> >
> > I am a newbie to woodworking. I know what wood veneer BUT... Is it a
good
> > covering for shelves in a bookcase? Is it strong? How do you install it?
> >
> > Thanks for your help in advance.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jay
>
> What are you using for the shelves themselves? How wide are they? We
> really need more info than you're providing so far.
>
> Scott
> --
> An unkind remark is like a killing frost. No matter how much it warms
> up later, the damage remains.


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