In Lowe's yesterday... I know it's been a little while since the last time I
had to buy any, but since when has a five-pound box of drywall screws cost
almost twelve bucks? And five pounds of deck screws is pushing THIRTY DOLLARS!
What's going on?
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
And I just read an article on a UK newsite about Shell posting the largest
profit in British history for last year. Funny how that works.
SteveP.
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:xprOd.26430$W16.1861@trndny07...
>
> "Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> In article <[email protected]>, "Seeker"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Price of steel/gas skyrocketing.
>>
>> Sorry, what does the price of gas have to do with it?
>>
>
> In our small company the price of natural gas is going to be $40,000 more
> than last year, the price of electricity about $60,000. Where do we get
> that money from?
>
> Companies that make screws use the same utilities, plus, the price of
> steel has gone crazy. Even the box the screw come in is probably 25% more
> than a year ago. This sis the trickle down effect, but it is more cascade
> than trickle.
>
Must be using a lot of screws buiilding that dam in China...
Doug Miller wrote:
> In Lowe's yesterday... I know it's been a little while since the last
time I
> had to buy any, but since when has a five-pound box of drywall screws
cost
> almost twelve bucks? And five pounds of deck screws is pushing THIRTY
DOLLARS!
> What's going on?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
>
> Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his
butt.
> And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
5# of deck screws - 3" coated for ACQ should be more like $15, but not
at the home centers.
On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 12:34:14 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
wrote:
>In Lowe's yesterday... I know it's been a little while since the last time I
>had to buy any, but since when has a five-pound box of drywall screws cost
>almost twelve bucks? And five pounds of deck screws is pushing THIRTY DOLLARS!
>What's going on?
Yeah,
I was at Menards yesterday after 2 years and saw 5 lb Galvanized screw
in many sizes for $5, so I got about 10 boxes, but am not sure if there
is any big diffrence between Galvanized and Stainless steel for
furniture making or capinets. I think Galvanized sould be as good as
others.
MaxEN
Doug Miller wrote:
> In Lowe's yesterday... I know it's been a little while since the last
time I
> had to buy any, but since when has a five-pound box of drywall screws
cost
> almost twelve bucks? And five pounds of deck screws is pushing THIRTY
DOLLARS!
> What's going on?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
>
> Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his
butt.
> And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
Dave Hinz wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:33:41 GMT, Cothian <[email protected]> wrote:
> > "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in
> > news:[email protected]:
> >
> >
> > I must say I am disappointed. Several replies and no-one has
stooped to the
> > obvious remarks about "getting screwed". Tsk tsk.
>
> Those are over in the other thread.
Yeah, you pull that kinda stuff here and somebody comes unravelled.
Dan
"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've pretty much gone to ordering ALL my screws online, usually from
> McFeely's - and they DO have "genuine drywall screws" for sale in the
> catalog, as well as deck screws, lag screws, just about anything you
> want if it is a screw. Not necessarily the CHEAPEST prices, but
> definitely QUALITY products
When comparing apples to apples McFeeleys is cheap. You will normally find
that their quality screws range in price from 2 cents each to 10 cents each
for the big screws. Home centers usually have a bag of 6 or 7 plated cheese
screws for 89 cents. I bought stainless steel 3/8" 3" long lag screws from
Mcfeeleys for almost half the price of the home centers galvanized price.
I've pretty much gone to ordering ALL my screws online, usually from
McFeely's - and they DO have "genuine drywall screws" for sale in the
catalog, as well as deck screws, lag screws, just about anything you
want if it is a screw. Not necessarily the CHEAPEST prices, but
definitely QUALITY products
John
On 09 Feb 2005 14:33:55 GMT, Brian Elfert <[email protected]> wrote:
>Thomas Kendrick <[email protected]> writes:
>
>>5# of deck screws - 3" coated for ACQ should be more like $15, but not
>>at the home centers.
>
>Where should one buy drywall/construction/deck screws if not a home
>center?
>
>I certainly wouldn't buy screws for woodworking at a home center, but I am
>finishing my basement as a shop that requires a fair number of screws for
>drywall and such.
>
>Brian Elfert
Wonder what the unemployment rate is in china.
Keep buying the stuff and help china to grow, .
Guess it really is easier to take the less expensive medicine rather
than the awful stuff. Like taking cod liver oil from a spoon mom stuck
down your throat as a kid and today you take it in pill form. Yuk still
shiver just thinking bout that stuff.
On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:33:41 GMT, Cothian <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> "The price of petrol pretty much affects the price of everything, since
>>
>> virtually every means used to move stuff around requires it."
>>
>> Add to that manufacturing requires some sort of energy. Even if it's
>> coal, petroleum-based fuel is used to mine and move the coal
>
> I must say I am disappointed. Several replies and no-one has stooped to the
> obvious remarks about "getting screwed". Tsk tsk.
Those are over in the other thread.
On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 21:57:19 GMT, Vic Baron <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:33:41 GMT, Cothian <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in
>> > news:[email protected]:
>> >
>> >> "The price of petrol pretty much affects the price of everything, since
>> >>
>> >> virtually every means used to move stuff around requires it."
>> >>
>> >> Add to that manufacturing requires some sort of energy. Even if it's
>> >> coal, petroleum-based fuel is used to mine and move the coal
>> >
>> > I must say I am disappointed. Several replies and no-one has stooped to
> the
>> > obvious remarks about "getting screwed". Tsk tsk.
>>
>> Those are over in the other thread.
>
> I assume it's the left hand thread?
Yeah, it's on the NPT server.
"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:33:41 GMT, Cothian <[email protected]> wrote:
> > "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in
> > news:[email protected]:
> >
> >> "The price of petrol pretty much affects the price of everything, since
> >>
> >> virtually every means used to move stuff around requires it."
> >>
> >> Add to that manufacturing requires some sort of energy. Even if it's
> >> coal, petroleum-based fuel is used to mine and move the coal
> >
> > I must say I am disappointed. Several replies and no-one has stooped to
the
> > obvious remarks about "getting screwed". Tsk tsk.
>
> Those are over in the other thread.
I assume it's the left hand thread?
V
[email protected] (Doug Miller) writes:
>In article <[email protected]>, "Seeker" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Price of steel/gas skyrocketing.
>Sorry, what does the price of gas have to do with it?
Fuel is used to haul the iron ore/scrap steel to the steel mill. Fuel is
used again to haul the steel to the screw plant, and finally fuel is used
to get the screws to your local store.
Brian Elfert
Thomas Kendrick <[email protected]> writes:
>5# of deck screws - 3" coated for ACQ should be more like $15, but not
>at the home centers.
Where should one buy drywall/construction/deck screws if not a home
center?
I certainly wouldn't buy screws for woodworking at a home center, but I am
finishing my basement as a shop that requires a fair number of screws for
drywall and such.
Brian Elfert
John <[email protected]> writes:
>I've pretty much gone to ordering ALL my screws online, usually from
>McFeely's - and they DO have "genuine drywall screws" for sale in the
>catalog, as well as deck screws, lag screws, just about anything you
>want if it is a screw. Not necessarily the CHEAPEST prices, but
>definitely QUALITY products
The person I was replying to implied there are cheaper places to buy
screws than a home center. McFeely's makes good stuff, but not cheap.
I don't need McFeely's quality to hang sheetrock.
Brian Elfert
Are they imported? If so, with the devalued US Dollar, everything that is
imported now will cost about 20% more.
"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In Lowe's yesterday... I know it's been a little while since the last time
I
> had to buy any, but since when has a five-pound box of drywall screws cost
> almost twelve bucks? And five pounds of deck screws is pushing THIRTY
DOLLARS!
> What's going on?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
>
> Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
> And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> writes:
>I just picked up a pound of each 1-5/8 and 3-1/2 dacronized screws
>from the Farmer's Supply last week for $2.00 and $2.29/lb,
>respectively. You guys shop at the wrong places.
I'm envious of people who have access to stores like Farmer's Supply. The
best we have is Tractor Supply Company and I've never checked the prices
on screws. Tractor Supply is at least a 20 mile round trip so I buy
screws and such from HD or Menard's.
I go to a town of 12,000 people near Lincoln, Nebraska every year for an
event. They have both a Tractor Supply and some sort of farm supply
store. They also have a Super Walmart. Both hardware stores did close in
the past two years though.
Brian Elfert
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 05:47:32 -0600, the inscrutable "Sweet Sawdust"
<[email protected]> spake:
>In lowes yesterday and bought 1 lb 1 1/4 fine thread for $4.12 and 5 lb or
>1 5/8 for $19.20 Price about 10% higher then when I bought 6 months ago.
I just picked up a pound of each 1-5/8 and 3-1/2 dacronized screws
from the Farmer's Supply last week for $2.00 and $2.29/lb,
respectively. You guys shop at the wrong places.
I also ordered some railroad ties at $6.99 each yesterday. Spring
has sprung and my wooden bridge is getting a companion planter.
These #2 ties look better than the other places' #1 at $11.99 ea.
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"Thomas Kendrick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1107955425.996c5c1db4c389ac627cd5a185526d3c@teranews...
> 5# of deck screws - 3" coated for ACQ should be more like $15, but not
> at the home centers.
>
> On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 12:34:14 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
> wrote:
>
> >In Lowe's yesterday... I know it's been a little while since the last
time I
> >had to buy any, but since when has a five-pound box of drywall screws
cost
> >almost twelve bucks? And five pounds of deck screws is pushing THIRTY
DOLLARS!
> >What's going on?
>
Hi -
In Canada - some screw imports have been assessed with a 170% duty, as China
has/had been found to be "dumping"....even screws purchased from the US (if
the Country of origin is China).
I suspect that this is case south of the border too....
Cheers -
Rob
Funny, Exxon / Mobil posted record profits last year. And did that raise
any eyebrows at the Fed....??? No... Yes wholesale oil is the most it
has been for us in the US, but we are not talking record Gross Revenue,
we are talking Record Net Profits. Seems like someone is bilking the
consumers... I'll assume that other US based petrol companies are doing
the same. Yea, I watched some machines I had my eye on go way up in
price...
Highland Pairos wrote:
> And I just read an article on a UK newsite about Shell posting the largest
> profit in British history for last year. Funny how that works.
>
> SteveP.
>
> "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:xprOd.26430$W16.1861@trndny07...
>
>>"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>In article <[email protected]>, "Seeker"
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Price of steel/gas skyrocketing.
>>>
>>>Sorry, what does the price of gas have to do with it?
>>>
>>
>>In our small company the price of natural gas is going to be $40,000 more
>>than last year, the price of electricity about $60,000. Where do we get
>>that money from?
>>
>>Companies that make screws use the same utilities, plus, the price of
>>steel has gone crazy. Even the box the screw come in is probably 25% more
>>than a year ago. This sis the trickle down effect, but it is more cascade
>>than trickle.
>>
>
>
>
"Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> "The price of petrol pretty much affects the price of everything, since
>
> virtually every means used to move stuff around requires it."
>
> Add to that manufacturing requires some sort of energy. Even if it's
> coal, petroleum-based fuel is used to mine and move the coal
>
I must say I am disappointed. Several replies and no-one has stooped to the
obvious remarks about "getting screwed". Tsk tsk.
On 10 Feb 2005 17:14:47 GMT, the inscrutable Brian Elfert
<[email protected]> spake:
>Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> writes:
>
>>I just picked up a pound of each 1-5/8 and 3-1/2 dacronized screws
>>from the Farmer's Supply last week for $2.00 and $2.29/lb,
>>respectively. You guys shop at the wrong places.
>
>I'm envious of people who have access to stores like Farmer's Supply. The
>best we have is Tractor Supply Company and I've never checked the prices
>on screws. Tractor Supply is at least a 20 mile round trip so I buy
>screws and such from HD or Menard's.
I also use the Ace Hardware/Field's Home Improvement center 6 miles
out of town here. I got a pallet of 25 RR ties for $6.99 each and the
delivery of that 1.5 ton of wood was just 8 bucks. I pulled my truck
shell out and started cutting the bed for the pickup crane (HF 6417)
this afternoon. I'll need to use it to drag the bloody buggers around.
DAYAMN, they're heavy! Farmer's Supply stopped the free delivery
(they were well liked for) sometime in the last 3 years, since I got
here. :(
>I go to a town of 12,000 people near Lincoln, Nebraska every year for an
>event. They have both a Tractor Supply and some sort of farm supply
>store. They also have a Super Walmart. Both hardware stores did close in
>the past two years though.
Suckage! We're up to nearly 25k here in GP now. It's getting BUSY!
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"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In Lowe's yesterday... I know it's been a little while since the last time
> I
> had to buy any, but since when has a five-pound box of drywall screws cost
> almost twelve bucks? And five pounds of deck screws is pushing THIRTY
> DOLLARS!
> What's going on?
It seems like this has been the case for the last 3 or 4 years. 1 lb boxes
have been about 5-$6 for quite a while.
On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 12:56:54 +0000, Doug Miller wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, "Seeker"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Price of steel/gas skyrocketing.
>
> Sorry, what does the price of gas have to do with it?
The price of petrol pretty much affects the price of everything, since
virtually every means used to move stuff around requires it.
--
Joe Wells
In article <[email protected]>, "Seeker" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Price of steel/gas skyrocketing.
Sorry, what does the price of gas have to do with it?
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
Sorta hard to make steel without furnances/smelters/etc. Cost for
producting that heat is a major factor in the cost of making and
recycling steel
John
On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 12:56:54 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, "Seeker" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Price of steel/gas skyrocketing.
>
>Sorry, what does the price of gas have to do with it?
In lowes yesterday and bought 1 lb 1 1/4 fine thread for $4.12 and 5 lb or
1 5/8 for $19.20 Price about 10% higher then when I bought 6 months ago.
"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In Lowe's yesterday... I know it's been a little while since the last time
I
> had to buy any, but since when has a five-pound box of drywall screws cost
> almost twelve bucks? And five pounds of deck screws is pushing THIRTY
DOLLARS!
> What's going on?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
>
> Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
> And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yeah,
> I was at Menards yesterday after 2 years and saw 5 lb Galvanized screw
> in many sizes for $5, so I got about 10 boxes, but am not sure if there
> is any big diffrence between Galvanized and Stainless steel for
> furniture making or capinets. I think Galvanized sould be as good as
> others.
Galvanized will react with the moisture in some woods. Stainless is
normally a bit stronger.
"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, "Seeker"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Price of steel/gas skyrocketing.
>
> Sorry, what does the price of gas have to do with it?
>
In our small company the price of natural gas is going to be $40,000 more
than last year, the price of electricity about $60,000. Where do we get
that money from?
Companies that make screws use the same utilities, plus, the price of steel
has gone crazy. Even the box the screw come in is probably 25% more than a
year ago. This sis the trickle down effect, but it is more cascade than
trickle.