We recently had a thread on losing a 500 year old tree to rather semi-conscious
workmen.
Locally (in this a.m.'s paper), we had a new roof get ripped off and replaced.
The roof that got torn off was 1 year old. The house was at (not real address)
1203 66th St. The house that was supposed to have the work done was at 1203
Cooperland Dr., 3/10 of a mile away. According to the paper, and at least one
person in the town of VIenna, WV, those addresses are confusing.
The homeowner was out of town and came back to get told of the changes by a
neighbor. Fortunately for him, the builder is reputable, so it will be put back
as it was by the original roofer.
But, sheest! Confusing? 66th St. and Cooperland Dr.? With 3/10 of a mile
between them, it isn't likely to have been streets nose to nose, though Vienna
does wind around a bit. Nice little town.
Charlie Self
"Property is not the sacred right. When a rich man becomes poor it is a
misfortune, it is not a moral evil. When a poor man becomes destitute, it is a
moral evil, teeming with consequences and injurious to society and morality."
Lord Acton
Provo Utah has an intersection of University and University. You really
need to pay attention to the Blvd, Pkwy, St, yadayadayada
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"Kevin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am not sure of other areas but in my area of Indiana there is a street
> that changes names 3 times in the space of less that 3 miles. Also, there
> ain't much imagination here. There are two Maple streets - a North/South
> Maple and an East/West Maple. Yes, they do intersect.
>
> "Pounds on Wood" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Wondering if it might be a case of street names changing at obtuse
> > intersections, or something like that?
> >
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>
>
Pounds on Wood responds:
>Provo Utah has an intersection of University and University. You really
>need to pay attention to the Blvd, Pkwy, St, yadayadayada
Yeah, well in this case, I think the workers, who are supposedly professional
roofers, needed to pay attention to the condition of the roof they were ripping
off. At a year old, even in the poisonous chemical atmosphere too often found
here, there are no signs of deterioration. There would have to be an underlying
reason to rip off the old and put on new, and there are no indications that
they carried decking materials, framing materials, etc., or that they used
them.
Charlie Self
"A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance
of being right." Thomas Paine
In article <[email protected]>,
Kevin <[email protected]> wrote:
>I am not sure of other areas but in my area of Indiana there is a street
>that changes names 3 times in the space of less that 3 miles. Also, there
>ain't much imagination here. There are two Maple streets - a North/South
>Maple and an East/West Maple. Yes, they do intersect.
In Des Moines Iowa, there is one street that undergoes _five_ name changes
in less than 1.5 miles.
And another place where 56th Street intersects 57th Street. (I _think_ those
are the right numbers, might be off by a couple -- I haven't lived there
for 20+ years)
Also, Evanston, Illinois, has a street that manages 4 name changes in about 2
miles,
And then there are the *right*angle* intersections in Chicago, where it is
'Street A' to the north of the intersection, 'Street B' to the south of the
intersection, 'Street C' to the west of the intersection, and 'Street *A*'
to the east of the intersection.
Trying to give somebody directions, that involves one of -those- intersections
is *great* fun.
Then you get these 'newer' developments, where all the streets are laid out
on curves, for 'looks', and to slow the traffic down. Frequently, it is
"not obvious" what street is what, on the far side of the intersection.
(sometimes the streets actually cross, sometimes they just 'came together',
and the 'northermost' one _remains_ the northernmost one on the far side
of the intersection.)
Just to add one to the list of strange intersections:
In Akron, Ohio you can stand at the intersection of
West North St. and North West St.
Akron also has street signs that read EVA AVE, which appeals to
my sense of the symetrical.
Akron also has an exit off of I-77 onto Lovers Lane.
Lois Lane is in Northfield, Michigan
ARM
Pounds on Wood wrote:
> Provo Utah has an intersection of University and University. You really
> need to pay attention to the Blvd, Pkwy, St, yadayadayada
>
> --
> ********
> Bill Pounds
Wondering if it might be a case of street names changing at obtuse
intersections, or something like that?
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********
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http://www.billpounds.com
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> We recently had a thread on losing a 500 year old tree to rather
semi-conscious
> workmen.
>
> Locally (in this a.m.'s paper), we had a new roof get ripped off and
replaced.
> The roof that got torn off was 1 year old. The house was at (not real
address)
> 1203 66th St. The house that was supposed to have the work done was at
1203
> Cooperland Dr., 3/10 of a mile away. According to the paper, and at least
one
> person in the town of VIenna, WV, those addresses are confusing.
>
> The homeowner was out of town and came back to get told of the changes by
a
> neighbor. Fortunately for him, the builder is reputable, so it will be put
back
> as it was by the original roofer.
>
> But, sheest! Confusing? 66th St. and Cooperland Dr.? With 3/10 of a mile
> between them, it isn't likely to have been streets nose to nose, though
Vienna
> does wind around a bit. Nice little town.
>
> Charlie Self
> "Property is not the sacred right. When a rich man becomes poor it is a
> misfortune, it is not a moral evil. When a poor man becomes destitute, it
is a
> moral evil, teeming with consequences and injurious to society and
morality."
> Lord Acton
[email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> We recently had a thread on losing a 500 year old tree to rather semi-conscious
> workmen.
>
> Locally (in this a.m.'s paper), we had a new roof get ripped off and replaced.
> The roof that got torn off was 1 year old. The house was at (not real address)
> 1203 66th St. The house that was supposed to have the work done was at 1203
> Cooperland Dr., 3/10 of a mile away. According to the paper, and at least one
> person in the town of VIenna, WV, those addresses are confusing.
>
> The homeowner was out of town and came back to get told of the changes by a
> neighbor. Fortunately for him, the builder is reputable, so it will be put back
> as it was by the original roofer.
>
> But, sheest! Confusing? 66th St. and Cooperland Dr.? With 3/10 of a mile
> between them, it isn't likely to have been streets nose to nose, though Vienna
> does wind around a bit. Nice little town.
>
> Charlie Self
Damn!! 66th street, for a moment there I thought Vienna had grown, but
a quick trip to Mapquest confirmed it still only goes up to 61st
street ;)
(I know, you said it wasn't the real address)
Dave Hall
Dave Hall notes:
>But, sheest! Confusing? 66th St. and Cooperland Dr.? With 3/10 of a mile
>> between them, it isn't likely to have been streets nose to nose, though
>Vienna
>> does wind around a bit. Nice little town.
>>
>> Charlie Self
>
>Damn!! 66th street, for a moment there I thought Vienna had grown, but
>a quick trip to Mapquest confirmed it still only goes up to 61st
>street ;)
Yeah, well...the real reason I munged the streets was the I couldn't remember
the NAME of the other street. It was 55th.
Charlie Self
"Property is not the sacred right. When a rich man becomes poor it is a
misfortune, it is not a moral evil. When a poor man becomes destitute, it is a
moral evil, teeming with consequences and injurious to society and morality."
Lord Acton
[email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> We recently had a thread on losing a 500 year old tree to rather semi-conscious
> workmen.
>
> Locally (in this a.m.'s paper), we had a new roof get ripped off and replaced.
> The roof that got torn off was 1 year old. The house was at (not real address)
> 1203 66th St. The house that was supposed to have the work done was at 1203
> Cooperland Dr., 3/10 of a mile away. According to the paper, and at least one
> person in the town of VIenna, WV, those addresses are confusing.
>
> The homeowner was out of town and came back to get told of the changes by a
> neighbor. Fortunately for him, the builder is reputable, so it will be put back
> as it was by the original roofer.
>
> But, sheest! Confusing? 66th St. and Cooperland Dr.? With 3/10 of a mile
> between them, it isn't likely to have been streets nose to nose, though Vienna
> does wind around a bit. Nice little town.
>
> Charlie Self
> "Property is not the sacred right. When a rich man becomes poor it is a
> misfortune, it is not a moral evil. When a poor man becomes destitute, it is a
> moral evil, teeming with consequences and injurious to society and morality."
> Lord Acton
SWMBO had shoulder surgery. Before they put the IV in, they gave a
black marker to her and told her to write something on the shoulder
indicating that it should be operated on.
Remember, half of all doctors graduated in the bottom half of thier
class.
Jay
Jay responds:
>SWMBO had shoulder surgery. Before they put the IV in, they gave a
>black marker to her and told her to write something on the shoulder
>indicating that it should be operated on.
>
>Remember, half of all doctors graduated in the bottom half of thier
>class.
I had eye surgery this morning. They put the little wristband on the side being
operated on that day. Left side today. Right side last time. That's not a
definer of a stupid surgeon. It's actually a pretty fair extra check that
everything is where it's supposed to be. Ask the patient which side while
checking the sheet. Put the bracelet on. Operate on the side the bracelet is
on.
Especially in a fast practice, this kind of little touch is essential to
mistake prevention, with maybe 10 people moving around, and at least 3 involved
with each patient.
The stupid ones are like the surgeon who did my left knee nearly 30 years ago:
after I'd been injected with liquid Demerol, and was being wheeled to the
operating room, he handed me a sheet to sign giving him permission to remove my
kneecap if it become necessary. It didn't but if it had, that permission sheet
was worthless.
Charlie Self
"Property is not the sacred right. When a rich man becomes poor it is a
misfortune, it is not a moral evil. When a poor man becomes destitute, it is a
moral evil, teeming with consequences and injurious to society and morality."
Lord Acton
[email protected] wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 23:24:20 GMT, "Pounds on Wood"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Provo Utah has an intersection of University and University. You really
> >need to pay attention to the Blvd, Pkwy, St, yadayadayada
>
>
>
> downtown tucson has number streets and number avenues. lots of
> opportunities to get lost....
No monopoly in Provo .... most of the state of Minnesota is numbered
avenues and numbered Streets. But it's better than that all numbers
start at 0,0 near some city or town center and go up in both
directions from there. That's right you get 4 copies of each
intersection --- NW,NE,SW,SE. If you can't keep the Ave's from the
St's the it often becomes and 8-fold ambiguity.
hex
-30-
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Snip
>
> But, sheest! Confusing? 66th St. and Cooperland Dr.? With 3/10 of a mile
> between them, it isn't likely to have been streets nose to nose, though
Vienna
> does wind around a bit. Nice little town.
Yup... I 'd say about as easy to confuse as a 5 year old Ash for a 500
year old Oak.
"Pounds on Wood" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Provo Utah has an intersection of University and University. You
> really need to pay attention to the Blvd, Pkwy, St, yadayadayada
Sunrise Fl has an intersection of North Pine Island Rd with Pine
Island Rd North. How you're susposed to figure that one out is
beyond me.
John
I am not sure of other areas but in my area of Indiana there is a street
that changes names 3 times in the space of less that 3 miles. Also, there
ain't much imagination here. There are two Maple streets - a North/South
Maple and an East/West Maple. Yes, they do intersect.
"Pounds on Wood" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Wondering if it might be a case of street names changing at obtuse
> intersections, or something like that?
>
> --
> ********
> Bill Pounds
> http://www.billpounds.com
>
"Cape Cod Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hell, that's kids' stuff. In Boston, there are some streets you can't
> get to from here. Them Pilgrims walked some crooked paths.
And if you can get there, they aren't wide enough to drive down, or there's
no place to park!
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Cape Cod Bob wrote:
> Hell, that's kids' stuff. In Boston, there are some streets you can't
> get to from here. Them Pilgrims walked some crooked paths.
There's even some streets that you can't get to the next address on the same
street from here. When the Interstates went through they added another
layer of obscurity.
> Cape Cod Bob
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Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
Jay wrote:
[snip]
> SWMBO had shoulder surgery. Before they put the IV in, they gave a
> black marker to her and told her to write something on the shoulder
> indicating that it should be operated on.
>
> Remember, half of all doctors graduated in the bottom half of thier
> class.
>
> Jay
my sil had knee surgeries and was always told to write "yes, this is the
one" kinds of stuff on the knee to be cut and "no..." on the other.
Just gives you that leeeeeeeeeeetle extra edge that can save you major
problems.
Reminds me of the story of the guy who went to his doctor demanding to
be castrated. Several good "talkings-to" and some therapy sessions did
not disuade him. As he was recovering in his hospital room, another man
was wheeled in to the bed next to his.
"What did you have done?" our hero asked.
"Something I should have had done long ago. I was finally circumcised."
"Oh damn! That's the word!"
mahalo,
jo4hn
p.s. Q:What do you call the person who graduated last in his medical class?
A: Doctor.
On 22 Apr 2004 11:35:30 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:
>We recently had a thread on losing a 500 year old tree to rather semi-conscious
>workmen.
>
>Locally (in this a.m.'s paper), we had a new roof get ripped off and replaced.
>The roof that got torn off was 1 year old. The house was at (not real address)
>1203 66th St. The house that was supposed to have the work done was at 1203
>Cooperland Dr., 3/10 of a mile away. According to the paper, and at least one
>person in the town of VIenna, WV, those addresses are confusing.
>
>The homeowner was out of town and came back to get told of the changes by a
>neighbor. Fortunately for him, the builder is reputable, so it will be put back
>as it was by the original roofer.
>
>But, sheest! Confusing? 66th St. and Cooperland Dr.? With 3/10 of a mile
>between them, it isn't likely to have been streets nose to nose, though Vienna
>does wind around a bit. Nice little town.
>
>Charlie Self
So they're going to put yet another new roof on the house accidentally
reroofed? What's wrong with this accidental roof?
Lazarus Long writes:
>>
>>But, sheest! Confusing? 66th St. and Cooperland Dr.? With 3/10 of a mile
>>between them, it isn't likely to have been streets nose to nose, though
>Vienna
>>does wind around a bit. Nice little town.
>>
>>Charlie Self
>
>So they're going to put yet another new roof on the house accidentally
>reroofed? What's wrong with this accidental roof?
>
Ah, welllllll...this was a Parkersburg newspaper story, and asking for all the
journalist's questions does not include "why". Other stuff, what, where, when
do get told, if in a confusing manner.
Charlie Self
"Property is not the sacred right. When a rich man becomes poor it is a
misfortune, it is not a moral evil. When a poor man becomes destitute, it is a
moral evil, teeming with consequences and injurious to society and morality."
Lord Acton
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 23:24:20 GMT, "Pounds on Wood"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Provo Utah has an intersection of University and University. You really
>need to pay attention to the Blvd, Pkwy, St, yadayadayada
downtown tucson has number streets and number avenues. lots of
opportunities to get lost....
How about the south side of Chicago, they have 25th St and 25th Place,
26th St, 26th Place, etc. Mark
Pounds on Wood wrote:
> Provo Utah has an intersection of University and University. You really
> need to pay attention to the Blvd, Pkwy, St, yadayadayada
>
> --
> ********
> Bill Pounds
> http://www.billpounds.com
>
>
> "Kevin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>I am not sure of other areas but in my area of Indiana there is a street
>>that changes names 3 times in the space of less that 3 miles. Also, there
>>ain't much imagination here. There are two Maple streets - a North/South
>>Maple and an East/West Maple. Yes, they do intersect.
>>
>>"Pounds on Wood" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>Wondering if it might be a case of street names changing at obtuse
>>>intersections, or something like that?
>>>
>>>--
>>>********
>>>Bill Pounds
>>>http://www.billpounds.com
>>>
>>
>>
>
>