I have nothing better to talk about at this time, so I like to bring up
router table height... So ye got?
I am going to build my own router table cabinet. I have to deicide on how
high. I keep thinking of MIGHT be able to use the router table as outfeed
table.
Table saw is 35 1/2" high and other stationeries are 40" and 43". I think
I will go with the 40".
What do you guys have for the miter saw? What is the height of the top of
the base (where you put the wood on)? Mine is 43" high (just put it on
top of my RAS). Someday, I will make a spot for the miter saw and thought
would 40" be little low for a miter saw? Had a little dream of having the
miter saw and router table on one wall (maybe with a window :P).
How effective is having wheels for moving the router table? Or one of
those step-thing that picks up the table and move it, then step on again
to lower the cabinet to it's resting spot?
I haven't made a workbeach yet, saving it for when we move to more room.
Then I can make a heavy one (maybe with those step-thing wheels?) and
level that one with the table saw.
Chuck
CNT wrote:
> I have nothing better to talk about at this time, so I like to bring up
> router table height... So ye got?
>
> I am going to build my own router table cabinet. I have to deicide on how
> high. I keep thinking of MIGHT be able to use the router table as outfeed
> table.
>
> Table saw is 35 1/2" high and other stationeries are 40" and 43". I think
> I will go with the 40".
>
> What do you guys have for the miter saw? What is the height of the top of
> the base (where you put the wood on)? Mine is 43" high (just put it on
> top of my RAS). Someday, I will make a spot for the miter saw and thought
> would 40" be little low for a miter saw? Had a little dream of having the
> miter saw and router table on one wall (maybe with a window :P).
>
> How effective is having wheels for moving the router table? Or one of
> those step-thing that picks up the table and move it, then step on again
> to lower the cabinet to it's resting spot?
>
> I haven't made a workbeach yet, saving it for when we move to more room.
> Then I can make a heavy one (maybe with those step-thing wheels?) and
> level that one with the table saw.
>
> Chuck
I raised my TS about 2" to clear my old bench. Since then I've built all
new benches and set the hieghts acording to what work is done on them
and where they are in the shop. My main bench is in the middle of the
shop and just below below the hieght of the TS because a sheet of
plywood may extend over the bench and i want my fingers under the wood
when i push it through the saw. I have a long bench on one wall where I
built in my RAS, cut off saw and router plate with guides for the fence.
This bench is at 36" and comfortable for me but I'm a mere 5'7". The
chop saw and RAS fences line up and I can support material as long as
required allowing me an easy 8" on either side of the RAS. If i need to
run a long length through the mounted router I have a base plate which I
can clamp onto the bench and allow ten feet on either side but I find
for the kinds of stuff I do (full size furniture but not cabinets) the
four feet I have past the regular router plate is sufficient.
I don't like the idea of having a router table built into the outfeed
table because I often will use both tools sequentially and having a bit
sticking up in my runout area would create potential problems.
I've been thinking about a stand alone router table but will probably
just build a small one I can place ontop of my main workbench for small
jobs. I like the long table availability although it does tend to
clutter with my work habits.
JC
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:01:47 -0000, CNT <[email protected]> wrote:
>I have nothing better to talk about at this time, so I like to bring up
>router table height... So ye got?
I imagine that this will vary by the height of the operator- mine is
about 38" inches. My table saw is the same, and the miter saw is
about 40". At 6'3", 40" is about perfect for me for most things, but
sometimes I make things a couple of inches lower if I know that I'm
going to want to exert a decent amount of downward force on a piece.
If you're shorter, make it shorter- If you're taller, make it taller.
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:00:42 -0000, CNT <[email protected]> wrote:
>Not bending over, assuming you use feathers too?
>
>Chuck
>
feathers depend on what i am doing. if i am cutting stiles and rails
or raising panels then yes i use em. if just detailing edges or
cutting circles then no. i realy like the higher table. and my back
apreciates it too. :-]>
skeez
I once read something that was fairly amusing but serious about the
height of tools & it turned out to be a bit tall, IMO. "Keep working
heights between your belt & your belly button." I'm 5'11" with
standard legs, so that puts stuff between 39" & 42" for me.
I made my bench 40" tall because that's how high my RAS table was. I
like it for working on small stuff (no bending over), but anything
larger than a foot high & it becomes a pain. I plan on cutting a few
inches off when I can get around to it. It's also too high to get my
shoulder into a plane properly with wider boards. I think I'd rather
bend over a bit more than work at chest height.
Roy Underhill has stated that he likes his benches shorter than most
people & at one shop he went back to, found all the benches were up on
blocks that added a couple of inches. I think his measurement was 32"
but it's been a while. He does all handtool work.
I guess what all that adds up to is I'd like my bench to be about 36" &
that seems to be what I recall seeing around. Your router table can
certainly be taller, though. I would think 40 would be pretty good if
you're not running tall stuff through it.
Jim
I agree, this is why I am asking what you guys have it set at. I forgot to
mention that I am a regular 6ft tall gentleman. Could you at least take out
your tape measure and measure how high is your router table top (as it is
heightened)?
> I do not like bending over for hours at a time at the router table. 2
> or 3 hours straight is not unusual.
Excellent idea. I didn't think of that! I might do that then! Do you have a
pic of it (so I can imagine it better, just the wheel part, bet it's all
wrapped up with webs?).
> I have 2 fixed wheels on the back side of my router cabinet almost
> even with the floor but not touching the floor. When I want to move
> the cabined I tilt it back like a 2 wheel dolly and move it around.
OK.
>> I think I will go with the 40".
>
> Good move!
I was just saying "window" meaning a shop out of the basement. I saw a
house one time that had a long, good sized shop build in between the
house and detached garage. I would say it's about 30 to 40 feet long! It
had all windows on two walls and he had all kinds of stationaries in it.
Thought it was neat for that design.
>> dream of having the miter saw and router table on one wall (maybe
>> with a window :P).
>
> Router table not ok by window
Boy, I am really asking how HIGH you guys have the router table set to,
not how wide or long.
I got the tablesaw on wheels, thought that would be enough (at least for
my little shop). Well, I also have the bandsaw on wheels (and move/use it
quite a lot), but not the drillpress.
> I might have gotten carried away but everything is on wheels. My
> router table is 30" x 60", on wheels. Really helps when machining long
> stock or large panals.
I agree about having drawers/cabinets under the workbench, but sometimes
leaving it open is meaningful. Could put a shopvac under there or (my
plan) scraps bin. Often I "tunk" my feet/leg under the workbench.
What you mean for the second bench "under the window"?
> Now you're talking. But you need two, one for the outfeed of the TS,
> the second for under the window. I've seen a lot of different benches,
> and I do believe this is where so much space is wasted. Build drawers
> and cabinet space under, you won't regret it, especially if you're
> space challenged. I will be starting a bench project myself here
> before long, have really been looking at a lot of great designs, and I
> will incorporate storage.
WILL SOMEBODY START GIVING OUT HEIGHT MEASUREMENTS... :)
Chuck
In article <[email protected]>, CNT <[email protected]> wrote:
>OK.
>
>>> I think I will go with the 40".
>>
>> Good move!
>
>I was just saying "window" meaning a shop out of the basement. I saw a
>house one time that had a long, good sized shop build in between the
>house and detached garage. I would say it's about 30 to 40 feet long! It
>had all windows on two walls and he had all kinds of stationaries in it.
>Thought it was neat for that design.
>
>>> dream of having the miter saw and router table on one wall (maybe
>>> with a window :P).
>>
>> Router table not ok by window
>
>Boy, I am really asking how HIGH you guys have the router table set to,
>not how wide or long.
>
>I got the tablesaw on wheels, thought that would be enough (at least for
>my little shop). Well, I also have the bandsaw on wheels (and move/use it
>quite a lot), but not the drillpress.
>
>> I might have gotten carried away but everything is on wheels. My
>> router table is 30" x 60", on wheels. Really helps when machining long
>> stock or large panals.
>
>I agree about having drawers/cabinets under the workbench, but sometimes
>leaving it open is meaningful. Could put a shopvac under there or (my
>plan) scraps bin. Often I "tunk" my feet/leg under the workbench.
>
>What you mean for the second bench "under the window"?
>
>> Now you're talking. But you need two, one for the outfeed of the TS,
>> the second for under the window. I've seen a lot of different benches,
>> and I do believe this is where so much space is wasted. Build drawers
>> and cabinet space under, you won't regret it, especially if you're
>> space challenged. I will be starting a bench project myself here
>> before long, have really been looking at a lot of great designs, and I
>> will incorporate storage.
>
>WILL SOMEBODY START GIVING OUT HEIGHT MEASUREMENTS... :)
OK, here's the authoritative checklist:
[ ] some
[ ] several
[ ] too high ("just right for _me_", says poppa bear)
[ ] too low ("just right for _me_", says momma bear)
[ ] just right
[ ] tall enough to reach from the table top to the ground
> Chuck said: (snipped)
> I am going to build my own router table cabinet. I have to deicide on how
> high. I keep thinking of MIGHT be able to use the router table as outfeed
> table.
>
> Table saw is 35 1/2" high and other stationeries are 40" and 43". I think
> I will go with the 40".
>
> What do you guys have for the miter saw?
> How effective is having wheels for moving the router table?
>
> I haven't made a workbeach yet,
>
All of the tables and work benches are the same height as my tablesaw and
router table.
This has worked out very well.
The miter saw and RAS are on the same table and the same height as
everything else.
If you have a space crunch, then wheels work good.
Dave
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"CNT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have nothing better to talk about at this time, so I like to bring up
> router table height... So ye got?
>
> I am going to build my own router table cabinet. I have to deicide on how
> high. I keep thinking of MIGHT be able to use the router table as outfeed
> table.
>
> Table saw is 35 1/2" high and other stationeries are 40" and 43". I think
> I will go with the 40".
>
> What do you guys have for the miter saw? What is the height of the top of
> the base (where you put the wood on)? Mine is 43" high (just put it on
> top of my RAS). Someday, I will make a spot for the miter saw and thought
> would 40" be little low for a miter saw? Had a little dream of having the
> miter saw and router table on one wall (maybe with a window :P).
I do not loke bending over for hours at a time at the router table. 2 or 3
hours straight is not unusual. I prefer the router table to be taller so
that there is no bending. On the other hand. if you put a lot of big panels
for cabinet doors up there to do round overs too tall may make it tough to
handle the large panels. I recently put my steel work bench on 5 inch
wheels and was shocked at how high the top was. I really like it that tall
now.
> How effective is having wheels for moving the router table? Or one of
> those step-thing that picks up the table and move it, then step on again
> to lower the cabinet to it's resting spot?
I have 2 fixed wheels on the back side of my router cabinet almost even with
the floor but not touching the floor. When I want to move the cabined I
tilt it back like a 2 wheel dolly and move it around.
>
> Boy, I am really asking how HIGH you guys have the router table
> set to, not how wide or long.
WILL SOMEBODY START GIVING OUT HEIGHT MEASUREMENTS... :)
>
> Chuck
>
>
Chuck;
My router table is 37" high. There is no underlying reason why it is
that tall except that it is just comfortable for me to work on.
Hope that helps some and make more sawdust,
Woodworkerdan
Dan Harriman
Orange, Texas
CNT <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
<snip>
> WILL SOMEBODY START GIVING OUT HEIGHT MEASUREMENTS... :)
>
Mine are 34.5" tall. That's lower than is comfortable for me.
Everything except the bench and drill press are on wheels, because I
need the room for infeed and outfeed of stock longer than 30" or so.
And when the weather is nice, even many of the stationary tools move out
to the driveway.
In a dream shop, for the way I work, the router table would be 40-42"
high, with maybe 30" of folding wing table on each side. Right now, the
table serves as an aux left wing on the left tilting Unisaw, for large
panel cutting.
The tablesaw at 34.5" is just fine. The miter saw lives on top of the
Craftsman rolling mechanics tool chest my wife bought me for Christmas 6
years ago, unless I need to cut longer stock. Then I'll set up the
Ridgid MSUV in the driveway. On sale at $99, it was a good deal. Both
about 34" tall.
The Shopsmith in lathe mode is too low. The Delta drill press should be
6" taller, and will be, when I build a proper base. I can live with the
standard height of the band saw. Assembly tables get built ad hoc, and
recycled into other projects.
Take what you have, and mock things up with blocks of twoby stock, and
see if it feels comfortable. Everybody's different. There's more than
a couple of us who work in wheelchairs, and get by just fine, with a few
adjustments.
Patriarch
On Sat 26 Mar 2005 10:49:24a, "Jim" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I once read something that was fairly amusing but serious about the
> height of tools & it turned out to be a bit tall, IMO. "Keep working
> heights between your belt & your belly button." I'm 5'11" with
> standard legs, so that puts stuff between 39" & 42" for me.
Frank Klausz says in one of his videos (I really like watching his videos)
that a bench should be of the height you set by extending your arms
straight down, relaxed, and then put your hands horizontal, as though you
were laying them flat on an imaginary bench. For me, that's a little lower
than my belt.
But then I found a transcript of an online chat with Frank, in which he
said that the older he got, the higher he wanted his workbench and that he
was in the process of building a new, higher one.
My first workbench ended up about 36 or 37 inches. That's about right for
me, right now. Now that I've used it a little and I know what I *really*
want in a bench, my next one might be a little higher.
I think the bottom line for all this discussion is that you've got to build
and use something that you think is ABOUT the right height, and what you
discover from working with it will determine what height is best for you.
"CNT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have nothing better to talk about at this time, so I like to bring up
> router table height... So ye got?
>
> I am going to build my own router table cabinet. I have to deicide on how
> high. I keep thinking of MIGHT be able to use the router table as outfeed
> table.
>
> Table saw is 35 1/2" high and other stationeries are 40" and 43". I think
> I will go with the 40".
Good move!
>
> What do you guys have for the miter saw? What is the height of the top of
> the base (where you put the wood on)? Mine is 43" high (just put it on
> top of my RAS). Someday, I will make a spot for the miter saw and thought
> would 40" be little low for a miter saw? Had a little dream of having the
> miter saw and router table on one wall (maybe with a window :P).
>
Router table not ok by window, a view could distract the task at hand, CMS
will spray dust on your view or you'll be distracted. If you have a dust
hood, will ruin view. Save the view for a nice workbench, and enjoy the
view.
> How effective is having wheels for moving the router table? Or one of
> those step-thing that picks up the table and move it, then step on again
> to lower the cabinet to it's resting spot?
I might have gotten carried away but everything is on wheels. My router
table is 30" x 60", on wheels. Really helps when machining long stock or
large panals.
>
> I haven't made a workbeach yet, saving it for when we move to more room.
> Then I can make a heavy one (maybe with those step-thing wheels?) and
> level that one with the table saw.
Now you're talking. But you need two, one for the outfeed of the TS, the
second for under the window. I've seen a lot of different benches, and I do
believe this is where so much space is wasted. Build drawers and cabinet
space under, you won't regret it, especially if you're space challenged. I
will be starting a bench project myself here before long, have really been
looking at a lot of great designs, and I will incorporate storage.
>
> Chuck
"Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Boy, I am really asking how HIGH you guys have the router table
>> set to, not how wide or long.
>
> WILL SOMEBODY START GIVING OUT HEIGHT MEASUREMENTS... :)
.
That might be helpful if all of us were exactly the same height.
"CNT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> I am going to build my own router table cabinet. I have to deicide on how
> high. I keep thinking of MIGHT be able to use the router table as outfeed
> table.
>
Sure, that can work.
> Table saw is 35 1/2" high and other stationeries are 40" and 43". I think
> I will go with the 40".
My router talbe is 1/4" higher than my workbench at 36". The reason for the
router table to be slightly hiher is if I'm putting a long piece through, it
will go over instead of hit the bench next to it.
>
> What do you guys have for the miter saw?
Right now it is on a Stanley plastic table. Easily moved, but some day I'd
like it on a station against a wall.
>
> How effective is having wheels for moving the router table? Or one of
> those step-thing that picks up the table and move it, then step on again
> to lower the cabinet to it's resting spot?
Mine is on wheels, but I have locks for leveling and keeping it steady.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:01:47 -0000, CNT <[email protected]> wrote:
>I have nothing better to talk about at this time, so I like to bring up
>router table height... So ye got?
>
>I am going to build my own router table cabinet. I have to deicide on how
>high. I keep thinking of MIGHT be able to use the router table as outfeed
>table.
>
>Table saw is 35 1/2" high and other stationeries are 40" and 43". I think
>I will go with the 40".
>
>What do you guys have for the miter saw? What is the height of the top of
>the base (where you put the wood on)? Mine is 43" high (just put it on
>top of my RAS). Someday, I will make a spot for the miter saw and thought
>would 40" be little low for a miter saw? Had a little dream of having the
>miter saw and router table on one wall (maybe with a window :P).
>
>How effective is having wheels for moving the router table? Or one of
>those step-thing that picks up the table and move it, then step on again
>to lower the cabinet to it's resting spot?
>
>I haven't made a workbeach yet, saving it for when we move to more room.
>Then I can make a heavy one (maybe with those step-thing wheels?) and
>level that one with the table saw.
>
>Chuck
mine is 1/8 " lower than my bandsaw table. the bandsaw table is 41 1/2
". the router table does double duty as an outfeed table for the
bandsaw. makes it nice for resawing 2byheavy's. i am also 6' tall and
the hight of the router table means i aint bending over all the time.
YMMV.
skeez
The ONLY two tools that I have set HIGH (both 43 inches) are my
router table and my bandsaw... Reason is that I do not like bending
over ... and I can see better... IF I did a lot of resawing I would
not have my bandsaw set so high ...
I also have a router set up in the outfeed table of the table saw BUT
it is way way ...did I say way...too low to use comfortability .
Bob Griffiths
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:01:47 -0000, CNT <[email protected]> wrote:
>I have nothing better to talk about at this time, so I like to bring up
>router table height... So ye got?
>
On 26 Mar 2005 08:49:24 -0800, "Jim" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I once read something that was fairly amusing but serious about the
>height of tools & it turned out to be a bit tall, IMO. "Keep working
>heights between your belt & your belly button." I'm 5'11" with
>standard legs, so that puts stuff between 39" & 42" for me.
I kind of shoot for a height that lines up with my elbow, but that's
me. If it's at waist level, I do a lot of bending over, and it's
tough on the back. Waist level is about what I go for on my tables
that I use for sanding and chiseling, when I am usually sitting down.
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