3-1 will work in a pinch
Dave
"Jim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I can't find mine anywhere and it's a two hour round trip to get some.
> Is any other oil OK?.
>
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Don't want to start anything here, so PLEASE if you are actually using
what you are suggesting to lubricate the seals and triggers (which I am
sure everyone is) PLEASE continue to do so.
That being said, I have about 15 nail guns that see constant use. Bill
the repair guy at my fastner supplier (has been off and on for 20
years) can spot any kind of oil other than pneumatic gun oil a mile
away when the seals go. He says no motor oil of any kind, no hobby
oil, no WD 40, no 000 weight oil... nothing with any kind of solvent.
He has seen it all, and repairs guns all day long.
When we are in a pinch, he always tell me to go to the drug store and
get mineral oil. When he fills my oil bottles after servicing the guns
(and of course, my nail/brad/staple purchase) he has actually given me
mineral oil that they buy in 5 gallon barrels to give to the field
agents.
If it is benign enough to drink, it sure won't hurt those neoprene
seals. And best of all, Bill doesn't bitch at me for dissolving the
seals.
So another disclaimer before flaming and righteous indignation start:
use what you are using now in good health if it works for you. If you
only use your guns a few times a week it may not matter what you put in
them...
Robert
<<Heavy mineral oil or the light stuff? I have plenty of the heavy
variety around.<<
Whatever is from our Walgreens and Dollar General seem to work fine.
It has the viscosity of 3 in 1, so it must be light. If I remember my
childhood days of trauma correctly, the heavy stuff was the consistency
of pancake syrup.
Go with the light.
Robert
<<<<Heavy mineral oil or the light stuff? I have plenty of the heavy
variety around.<<
Whatever is from our Walgreens and Dollar General seem to work fine.
It has the viscosity of 3 in 1, so it must be light. If I remember my
childhood days of trauma correctly, the heavy stuff was the consistency
of pancake syrup.
Go with the light.
Robert >>
Well, slap my ass and call me Sally. I pulled out the bottle today and
it indeed said HEAVY mineral oil. So there you are Jim if you are
still monitoring this thread.
Robert
On 16 Oct 2005 22:28:02 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
><<<<Heavy mineral oil or the light stuff? I have plenty of the heavy
>variety around.<<
>
>
>Whatever is from our Walgreens and Dollar General seem to work fine.
>It has the viscosity of 3 in 1, so it must be light. If I remember my
>childhood days of trauma correctly, the heavy stuff was the consistency
>
>of pancake syrup.
>
>
>Go with the light.
>
>
>Robert >>
>
>Well, slap my ass and call me Sally. I pulled out the bottle today and
>it indeed said HEAVY mineral oil. So there you are Jim if you are
>still monitoring this thread.
>
Hi Sally.:)
I get so confused with all the answers I decided to us a bit of the oil that can
with my compressor in my older nailers but I've left my new air grinder in the
box until I can get the real stuff.
I'm new to all this and used to just be able to go down the block for the right
stuff. This living in the boondocks will take some getting used to.
Mail order/online order a 16oz bottle, will probably last a lifetime
for the average home hobbiest - Got my Paslode oil at HD, think it was
around $7 for the 16oz size. At a few drops per use of the nailer, it
will very likely still be half full when I am no longer here
John
On 14 Oct 2005 01:01:56 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
><<Heavy mineral oil or the light stuff? I have plenty of the heavy
>variety around.<<
>
>Whatever is from our Walgreens and Dollar General seem to work fine.
>It has the viscosity of 3 in 1, so it must be light. If I remember my
>childhood days of trauma correctly, the heavy stuff was the consistency
>of pancake syrup.
>
>Go with the light.
>
>Robert
"Jim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 2 hours on the freeway at the price of gas in Canada makes me avoid most
> trips
> to town. It's actually cheaper to get a courier to bring stuff to me. $14
> overnight to get 2 boxes of nails for my nailer picked up and brought to
> me.
> It would cost me 2.5 hours and $15 in gas to pick them up.
> Then there's the side trip to Burger King....
> Nope, running to town simply isn't an option.:)
>
I'll be making my weekly trip to the grocery and tool store in a couple of
hours myself. 76 miles at 21 per gallon means keeping a bit of extra bench
stock on hand and some extra soup in the pantry.
What's a "freeway?" Is that one of those roads with more than one lane each
way?
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "Buck Turgidson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >> 3-1 will work in a pinch
> >
> > I am a little leery of this advice. 3-1 oil is a solvent. That might
> > do some damage to your tool.
>
> 3 in 1 has been around as long as I can remember, but never thought of it as
> a solvent. I see it is now owned by the WD-40 company and they claim that 3
> in 1 lubricates, cleans, prevents rust. Hey, isn't that what WD-40 does?
> Could it be the same stuff in a different container?
Not unless they've changed from what the old 3-in-1 was. It was just a
light low viscosity non-detergent oil.
On 14 Oct 2005 01:01:56 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
><<Heavy mineral oil or the light stuff? I have plenty of the heavy
>variety around.<<
>
>Whatever is from our Walgreens and Dollar General seem to work fine.
>It has the viscosity of 3 in 1, so it must be light. If I remember my
>childhood days of trauma correctly, the heavy stuff was the consistency
>of pancake syrup.
>
>Go with the light.
>
DAMN! That means a trip to town.
The heavy stuff I can buy just down the road at the drugstore.:)
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:54:01 -0700, "Teamcasa" <[email protected]> wrote:
>3-1 will work in a pinch
>
Thanks Dave
I can't find that either, but I have a hot lead as to it's location.:)
>
>
>"Jim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>I can't find mine anywhere and it's a two hour round trip to get some.
>> Is any other oil OK?.
>>
>
>
>
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"Buck Turgidson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> 3-1 will work in a pinch
>
> I am a little leery of this advice. 3-1 oil is a solvent. That might
> do some damage to your tool.
3 in 1 has been around as long as I can remember, but never thought of it as
a solvent. I see it is now owned by the WD-40 company and they claim that 3
in 1 lubricates, cleans, prevents rust. Hey, isn't that what WD-40 does?
Could it be the same stuff in a different container?
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 21:42:12 -0700, "Jim" <[email protected]> =
wrote:
>On 13 Oct 2005 20:55:26 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Don't want to start anything here, so PLEASE if you are actually using
>>what you are suggesting to lubricate the seals and triggers (which I am
>>sure everyone is) PLEASE continue to do so.
>>
>>That being said, I have about 15 nail guns that see constant use. Bill
>>the repair guy at my fastner supplier (has been off and on for 20
>>years) can spot any kind of oil other than pneumatic gun oil a mile
>>away when the seals go. He says no motor oil of any kind, no hobby
>>oil, no WD 40, no 000 weight oil... nothing with any kind of solvent.
>>He has seen it all, and repairs guns all day long.
>>
>>When we are in a pinch, he always tell me to go to the drug store and
>>get mineral oil.=20
>
>Heavy mineral oil or the light stuff? I have plenty of the heavy variety=
around.
>
>
>> When he fills my oil bottles after servicing the guns
>>(and of course, my nail/brad/staple purchase) he has actually given me
>>mineral oil that they buy in 5 gallon barrels to give to the field
>>agents.
>>
>>If it is benign enough to drink, it sure won't hurt those neoprene
>>seals. And best of all, Bill doesn't bitch at me for dissolving the
>>seals.
>>
>>So another disclaimer before flaming and righteous indignation start:
>>use what you are using now in good health if it works for you. If you
>>only use your guns a few times a week it may not matter what you put in
>>them...
>>
>>Robert
I use mobil's lower vis oils, either the 00-xx or the 05-xx stuff. The =
synthetics usually
perform better than conventional lubricants due to their tolerance of =
higher temperatures.
I haven't ever had a seal issue that I am aware of, but I would think =
most automotive
motor oils wouldn't damage neoprene. Aren't some of the oil seals in car=
engines made
from neoprene or something very similar?
IMHO, the biggest damage to air tools in my experience has been from =
moisture condensation
from the compressor that gets by the water trap(s). I use a aftermarket =
oil cooler and
two square muffin fans as a inter cooler before the compressed air gets =
to the tank from
the pump, I have a automatic moisture drain valve just beyond the inter =
cooler. I have
noticed a significant improvement in air tool performance and life. =
However I continue to
use at least one water trap minimum, usually two at the tank output. The=
dryer the air
supply the better everything seems to work and extracting the condensate =
as far upstream
toward the compressor before it gets to the tank makes a big difference =
too. I got the
idea from a auto body shop as one of the many things they did to make the=
air supply as
moisture free as possible. =20
Joe Brophy
CountryTech Computer
email: [email protected]
"Jim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I can't find mine anywhere and it's a two hour round trip to get some.
> Is any other oil OK?.
>
Two hour round trip drive??? Any auto parts store would carry it. Surely
there is an auto parts store within an hour. But, if you're like me from
time to time and just don't want to have to put the project down to go to
town, try some non-detergent motor oil, or some 3 in one oil. Both will
work.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
In article <[email protected]>,
Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jim wrote:
> > I can't find mine anywhere and it's a two hour round trip to get some.
> > Is any other oil OK?.
> >
>
> Transmission fluid.
>
> At least, that's what I use.
>
> Lew
That stuff can attack some paint finishes. Safe for o-rings and an
excellent lube otherwise.
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 21:53:31 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>Mail order/online order a 16oz bottle, will probably last a lifetime
>for the average home hobbiest - Got my Paslode oil at HD, think it was
>around $7 for the 16oz size. At a few drops per use of the nailer, it
>will very likely still be half full when I am no longer here
>
The oil for my air compressor is a non detergent oil. says so right on the
bottle
Can you use this stuff in the tools as well?
I have a bottle of it right here.:)
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 05:14:06 -0400, "George" <George@least> wrote:
>
>"Jim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>> 2 hours on the freeway at the price of gas in Canada makes me avoid most
>> trips
>> to town. It's actually cheaper to get a courier to bring stuff to me. $14
>> overnight to get 2 boxes of nails for my nailer picked up and brought to
>> me.
>> It would cost me 2.5 hours and $15 in gas to pick them up.
>> Then there's the side trip to Burger King....
>> Nope, running to town simply isn't an option.:)
>>
>
>I'll be making my weekly trip to the grocery and tool store in a couple of
>hours myself. 76 miles at 21 per gallon means keeping a bit of extra bench
>stock on hand and some extra soup in the pantry.
>
>What's a "freeway?" Is that one of those roads with more than one lane each
>way?
>
Yep
3 lanes each way with a radar cop every 30 miles.:)
I go just under 10K OVER the 110K limit and they leave me alone.
It's actually cheaper to take a slow rougher secondary road but it tales longer.
On 13 Oct 2005 20:55:26 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>Don't want to start anything here, so PLEASE if you are actually using
>what you are suggesting to lubricate the seals and triggers (which I am
>sure everyone is) PLEASE continue to do so.
>
>That being said, I have about 15 nail guns that see constant use. Bill
>the repair guy at my fastner supplier (has been off and on for 20
>years) can spot any kind of oil other than pneumatic gun oil a mile
>away when the seals go. He says no motor oil of any kind, no hobby
>oil, no WD 40, no 000 weight oil... nothing with any kind of solvent.
>He has seen it all, and repairs guns all day long.
>
>When we are in a pinch, he always tell me to go to the drug store and
>get mineral oil.
Heavy mineral oil or the light stuff? I have plenty of the heavy variety around.
> When he fills my oil bottles after servicing the guns
>(and of course, my nail/brad/staple purchase) he has actually given me
>mineral oil that they buy in 5 gallon barrels to give to the field
>agents.
>
>If it is benign enough to drink, it sure won't hurt those neoprene
>seals. And best of all, Bill doesn't bitch at me for dissolving the
>seals.
>
>So another disclaimer before flaming and righteous indignation start:
>use what you are using now in good health if it works for you. If you
>only use your guns a few times a week it may not matter what you put in
>them...
>
>Robert
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:37:42 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm, Jim
<[email protected]> quickly quoth:
>I can't find mine anywhere and it's a two hour round trip to get some.
>Is any other oil OK?.
Marvel Mystery Oil is all I've ever used.
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 21:49:30 -0400, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Jim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I can't find mine anywhere and it's a two hour round trip to get some.
>> Is any other oil OK?.
>>
>
>Two hour round trip drive??? Any auto parts store would carry it. Surely
>there is an auto parts store within an hour. But, if you're like me from
>time to time and just don't want to have to put the project down to go to
>town,
2 hours on the freeway at the price of gas in Canada makes me avoid most trips
to town. It's actually cheaper to get a courier to bring stuff to me. $14
overnight to get 2 boxes of nails for my nailer picked up and brought to me.
It would cost me 2.5 hours and $15 in gas to pick them up.
Then there's the side trip to Burger King....
Nope, running to town simply isn't an option.:)
>try some non-detergent motor oil, or some 3 in one oil. Both will
>work.