Don Mackie <[email protected]> wrote:
> Orthopaedic surgeons sometimes use Kevlar gloves. Very impressive too -
> you can stab away with a knife and it won't go through. Why? Sharp bone
> ends mostly and a puncture wound can have unpleasant infective
> consequences. I'd be cautious about using them with anything that would
> snag or pull however and I don't know how they would stand up to a TS
> blade.
I think surgeons use something else, but the Kevlar gloves I'm familiar
with are knit and provide great protection against slashing wounds from
a sharp edge drawing across the surface but no protection against
puncture wounds. In my workplace (chemistry lab) when we need
protection against puncture wounds we use leather gloves. If there is
potential for a slashing type wound we use Kevlar and if there is
possibility of both we wear one over the other. If really gets
interesting if you need protection against chemicals because then yet
another glove goes over the other one or two. No one picks up dimes in
my lab :-).
In my home shop I use flexible leather gloves when handling rough lumber
and knit kevlar gloves when using non powered tools with blades. I would
recommend against using any gloves with power tools unless you need them
for handling rough lumber and can keep you hands well away from moving
parts. In most cases gloves + power tools increase the risk of injury
and give a false sense of security.
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A mail glove might save you from sander rash and saber saw nips but a table saw
would probably snag and drag your whole hand in or something. It is a lot
better to learn about the various pushers and jigs you need to keep your hand
away from the blade.
Work "scared" of those things, think before you cut and be sure where the work
is going to go. Don't try to work with small pieces of stock unless you have
them in a jig that does all the holding, far from your hand. I usually do all
of the cuts on the end of a long stick and cut it off last whenever possible.
Then you can get back away from the blade while you are working. Everyone I
know who got bit on a table saw was working with a small piece.
Yes, fear will keep you safe, but don,t be stupid.........
friend I know has a cheap garage sale table saw(Ryobi, I think)......cutting
a small piece of Pergio with a rip blade and using a bar-bar-que cleaner,
the kind with the wire bristles, as a push stick......needless to say, he
push the stick n two fingers into the blade....lost first knuckle on middle
finger n chewed on the ones next to it. OUCH.....
now he shoulda knew better, ohhh, no-guard either...saving a buck isn,t
always a wise choice....
"KYHighlander" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I count my fingers after every cut. Fear keeps you safe. Never get over
that
> fear.
>
> --
>
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>
>
> "Ah10201" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I have this huge paranoia about losing some digits off my hand, as does
> most
> > people i'm guessing. Is there such things as steel mesh or kevlar gloves
> that a
> > beginner can use before I can learn how to use all the tools?
> >
> > thanks...
>
>
Yep, one in 400 is the continuing odds for HIV from a needlestick. One in
three for hepatitis C.
However, Kevlar won't protect, only the barrier glove will, and the
orthopods I've been acquainted with delegate the debridement anyway....
"Don Mackie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email protected]>, Silvan
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Don Mackie wrote:
> >
> > > you can stab away with a knife and it won't go through. Why? Sharp
bone
> > > ends mostly and a puncture wound can have unpleasant infective
> > > consequences. I'd be cautious about using them with anything that
would
> >
> > Yeah, especially in the age of HIV.
>
> Yes but hepatitis a greater risk.
"Don Mackie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Orthopaedic surgeons sometimes use Kevlar gloves. Very impressive too -
> you can stab away with a knife and it won't go through. Why? Sharp bone
> ends mostly and a puncture wound can have unpleasant infective
> consequences. I'd be cautious about using them with anything that would
> snag or pull however and I don't know how they would stand up to a TS
> blade.
>
> --
> Just a smile. Just a glance.
I saw some fiber-embedded gloves a few years ago at a small hardware store
that were being sold as woodworking gloves. I strongly advised the owners
to only advertise them for their intended use: the front of the package
clearly stated that they were safety gloves for chainsaw use. The fibers
have nowhere to bind the blade on a table saw like they do on a chainsaw.
I count my fingers after every cut. Fear keeps you safe. Never get over that
fear.
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http://users.adelphia.net/~kyhighland
"Ah10201" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have this huge paranoia about losing some digits off my hand, as does
most
> people i'm guessing. Is there such things as steel mesh or kevlar gloves
that a
> beginner can use before I can learn how to use all the tools?
>
> thanks...
In article <[email protected]>, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Don Mackie wrote:
>
> > you can stab away with a knife and it won't go through. Why? Sharp bone
> > ends mostly and a puncture wound can have unpleasant infective
> > consequences. I'd be cautious about using them with anything that would
>
> Yeah, especially in the age of HIV.
Yes but hepatitis a greater risk.
--
Just a smile. Just a glance.
Orthopaedic surgeons sometimes use Kevlar gloves. Very impressive too -
you can stab away with a knife and it won't go through. Why? Sharp bone
ends mostly and a puncture wound can have unpleasant infective
consequences. I'd be cautious about using them with anything that would
snag or pull however and I don't know how they would stand up to a TS
blade.
--
Just a smile. Just a glance.
[email protected] (Ah10201) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I have this huge paranoia about losing some digits off my hand, as does most
> people i'm guessing. Is there such things as steel mesh or kevlar gloves that a
> beginner can use before I can learn how to use all the tools?
>
I bought a pair of Kevlar gloves by mail order at least ten
years ago. They were knit so would not protect against puncture
wounds. I do not remember where I found them. I don't know
where they are anymore either, maybe they're hanging out with
all the right-hand gloves I've lost over the years.
Gloves can provide protection for using edged hand tools, but
with power tools you run the risk of snagging the glove and
having it pull your hand into the machinery, mangling it
inside of the glove.
A severed finger can sometimes be reattached. A crushed finger
is probable a lost cause and an ounce of prevention is still
worth a lot of cure.
--
FF
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 09:13:12 -0500, "Dave W"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Wearing gloves around woodworking machinery is a GREAT way to get your hands
>hurt!
I wear gloves around some of my machinery - particularly when I'm
handling rough timber. The risk of a "grabbing" accident is low
enough on thicknessers or tenoners - you can operate those and always
keep a few feet from the moving parts.
Another approach is that of non-pull gloves. There are some around
now that are like brigandine (archaic scale armour) or lizard skin.
Hard impact-resistant plates are held in a weak rubber matrix. If the
glove is pulled, it simply tears.
--
Smert' spamionam
Wearing gloves around woodworking machinery is a GREAT way to get your hands
hurt!
Dave
"Greg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> A mail glove might save you from sander rash and saber saw nips but a
table saw
> would probably snag and drag your whole hand in or something. It is a lot
> better to learn about the various pushers and jigs you need to keep your
hand
> away from the blade.
> Work "scared" of those things, think before you cut and be sure where the
work
> is going to go. Don't try to work with small pieces of stock unless you
have
> them in a jig that does all the holding, far from your hand. I usually do
all
> of the cuts on the end of a long stick and cut it off last whenever
possible.
> Then you can get back away from the blade while you are working. Everyone
I
> know who got bit on a table saw was working with a small piece.
Dave W responds:
>
>Wearing gloves around woodworking machinery is a GREAT way to get your hands
>hurt!
>Dave
>
Some machinery. Some gloves. It doesn't make sense to work a table saw,
jointer, lathe, shaper or router table with gloves on, but the new close fit,
grip gloves are exceptionally handy for feeding a planer, and may actually be
useful for SOME cuts on a jointer. I strongly prefer wearing gloves with rough
wood, IF there will be no blade action close enought to latch onto the glove
(your hand shouldn't be that near, anyway, but with that said, a knick on a
finger, or even a lost tip, is a lot easier to deal with than a hand yanked
into a cutterhead--if there is ANY chance at all of that, then avoid the gloves
at all costs).
Charlie Self
I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.
http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html
Frankly, the thought of getting a hand CAUGHT in multi-horse power saw
gives me the shivers
Use appropriate push sticks (multiple pushsticks if needed) is the way
to keep your hands away from those sharp blades
John
On 28 Feb 2004 06:24:03 GMT, [email protected] (Ah10201) wrote:
>I have this huge paranoia about losing some digits off my hand, as does most
>people i'm guessing. Is there such things as steel mesh or kevlar gloves that a
>beginner can use before I can learn how to use all the tools?
>
>thanks...
Don Mackie wrote:
> you can stab away with a knife and it won't go through. Why? Sharp bone
> ends mostly and a puncture wound can have unpleasant infective
> consequences. I'd be cautious about using them with anything that would
Yeah, especially in the age of HIV.
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Check into the chain mall gloves that meat carvers use to protect their
hands,
William Lee
"Ah10201" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have this huge paranoia about losing some digits off my hand, as does
most
> people i'm guessing. Is there such things as steel mesh or kevlar gloves
that a
> beginner can use before I can learn how to use all the tools?
>
> thanks...