Has anyone tried using a water filled container as a filter for dust
collector exhaust air? Sort of like a bong in reverse - the dirty air
gets exhaused under water and bubbles up to the top, where the water
will filter out all the sub-micron dust?
I'm just looking for a cheapskate alternative to 0.5 micron filter
bags.
Any suggestions, comments or other ideas?
Tillman
On 16 May 2004 17:58:00 -0700, [email protected] (tillius)
brought forth from the murky depths:
>Has anyone tried using a water filled container as a filter for dust
>collector exhaust air? Sort of like a bong in reverse - the dirty air
>gets exhaused under water and bubbles up to the top, where the water
>will filter out all the sub-micron dust?
>
>I'm just looking for a cheapskate alternative to 0.5 micron filter
>bags.
>
>Any suggestions, comments or other ideas?
Your quality of life is not worth a mere $14.95 to 24.95?
http://www.grizzly.com/products/item.cfm?itemnumber=G5557
BTW, it's 0.3 micron size.
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On 16 May 2004 17:58:00 -0700, [email protected] (tillius)
wrote:
>Has anyone tried using a water filled container as a filter for dust
>collector exhaust air? Sort of like a bong in reverse - the dirty air
>gets exhaused under water and bubbles up to the top, where the water
>will filter out all the sub-micron dust?
>
>I'm just looking for a cheapskate alternative to 0.5 micron filter
>bags.
>
>Any suggestions, comments or other ideas?
>
>Tillman
The Borg and other places sell exactly that for sanding drywall. It
should work for fine wood dust.
--
John, in Minnesota
Robert Bonomi wrote:
>>Has anyone tried using a water filled container as a filter for dust
>>collector exhaust air? Sort of like a bong in reverse - the dirty air
>>gets exhaused under water and bubbles up to the top, where the water
>>will filter out all the sub-micron dust?
>>
>>I'm just looking for a cheapskate alternative to 0.5 micron filter
>>bags.
>>
>>Any suggestions, comments or other ideas?
>
>
> "Rainbow" makes/made a vacuum cleaner that works in exactly that fashion.
> With only 'so-so' effectiveness at keeping the really fine stuff down.
Actually, my shop vacuum cleaner uses the same thing. A very old
one, "Thermax" or whatever the name of the company was. I've got it in-line
with a centrifugal cleaner. The water filter is the last element.
All I can say is: it works a treat. Not one bit of fine stuff gets out of
that wet bucket. If it gets into the intake, then it's gone.
I'm surprised the system is not more widely used. It makes a lot of
sense to me.
--
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Nuno Souto
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In article <[email protected]>,
tillius <[email protected]> wrote:
>Has anyone tried using a water filled container as a filter for dust
>collector exhaust air? Sort of like a bong in reverse - the dirty air
>gets exhaused under water and bubbles up to the top, where the water
>will filter out all the sub-micron dust?
>
>I'm just looking for a cheapskate alternative to 0.5 micron filter
>bags.
>
>Any suggestions, comments or other ideas?
"Rainbow" makes/made a vacuum cleaner that works in exactly that fashion.
With only 'so-so' effectiveness at keeping the really fine stuff down.
I'd see _practical_ difficulties with a dust-collector -- due to the
_volume_ of air involved, and the need to have _little_ bubbles. Which
translates into the need for a non-trivial area of bubble-generation.
WAG says probably 'several' square _feet_ per 1000 CFM capacity.
Not to mention the static-pressure requirement. A water filter induces
A back-pressure of _at_least_ 1-1/4 PSI, per inch of water depth. the
effectiveness of particle removal goes up as (a) the bubbles get smaller,
and (b) the depth of the water gets greater. To scrub _small_ particles,
you may need several inches of water, _and_ some 'mesh' layers (to break
up larger bubbles that have formed by coalesense).
With proper consideration of design, one can probably cobble up something
that will work. It likely won't be simple, nor inexpensive (regardless of
how 'cheap' it's built :), however.
Roy Smith wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "mttt" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>Bong?
>>>
>>
>>Slang. Water pipe.
>
>
> If he doesn't know what a bong is, he probably thinks "water pipe" has
> something to do with plumbing.
>
> Try googling for "hookah".
<puff, puff, pass>
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tillius wrote:
> Has anyone tried using a water filled container as a filter for dust
> collector exhaust air? Sort of like a bong in reverse -
Bong?
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/.. <[email protected]> wrote:
>By Tue, 18 May 2004 03:28:04 GMT, JG <[email protected]>
> decided to post "Re: Dust collector exhaust air bong filter" to
>rec.woodworking:
>
>>
>>
>>Roy Smith wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> "mttt" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>>>Bong?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Slang. Water pipe.
>>>
>>>
>>> If he doesn't know what a bong is, he probably thinks "water pipe" has
>>> something to do with plumbing.
>>>
>>> Try googling for "hookah".
>>
>><puff, puff, pass>
>
>Bogart.
LOL.
Tillman said
>
> Has anyone tried using a water filled container as a filter for dust
> collector exhaust air? Sort of like a bong in reverse - the dirty air
> gets exhaused under water and bubbles up to the top, where the water
> will filter out all the sub-micron dust?
>
> I'm just looking for a cheapskate alternative to 0.5 micron filter
> bags.
>
> Any suggestions, comments or other ideas?
>
then John, in Minnesota, said
>
> The Borg and other places sell exactly that for sanding drywall. It
> should work for fine wood dust.
>
Probably a real bitch to clean, however.
On Mon, 17 May 2004 21:35:29 +1000, Noons
<[email protected]> posted:
>Robert Bonomi wrote:
>
>>>Has anyone tried using a water filled container as a filter for dust
>>>collector exhaust air? Sort of like a bong in reverse - the dirty air
>>>gets exhaused under water and bubbles up to the top, where the water
>>>will filter out all the sub-micron dust?
>>>
>>>I'm just looking for a cheapskate alternative to 0.5 micron filter
>>>bags.
>>>
>>>Any suggestions, comments or other ideas?
>>
>>
>> "Rainbow" makes/made a vacuum cleaner that works in exactly that fashion.
>> With only 'so-so' effectiveness at keeping the really fine stuff down.
>
>Actually, my shop vacuum cleaner uses the same thing. A very old
>one, "Thermax" or whatever the name of the company was. I've got it in-line
>with a centrifugal cleaner. The water filter is the last element.
>All I can say is: it works a treat. Not one bit of fine stuff gets out of
>that wet bucket. If it gets into the intake, then it's gone.
>I'm surprised the system is not more widely used. It makes a lot of
>sense to me.
I would guess that bubbling that volume of air through water would be
a real task. Sure a large wet filter pad might be effective, but what
about running the exhaust air through a spray chamber? I'm sure that
would get rid of most of the fines. The commercial/industrial way is
to run it through a grid of electrostatically charged wires and
electrostatically precipitate all solids.
I once had a monstrous centrifugal fan directing air into my lounge
room with mist sprays directed into the intake. The effect was
fabulous on a hot, dry day, and the ferns in the lounge room just
loved it :)
On 16 May 2004 17:58:00 -0700, [email protected] (tillius)
wrote:
>Has anyone tried using a water filled container as a filter for dust
>collector exhaust air? Sort of like a bong in reverse - the dirty air
>gets exhaused under water and bubbles up to the top, where the water
>will filter out all the sub-micron dust?
I haven't tried it for dust, but this idea works great for indoor
dryer lint traps.
Barry
"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Bong?
>
Slang. Water pipe.
By Tue, 18 May 2004 03:28:04 GMT, JG <[email protected]>
decided to post "Re: Dust collector exhaust air bong filter" to
rec.woodworking:
>
>
>Roy Smith wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> "mttt" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>>Bong?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Slang. Water pipe.
>>
>>
>> If he doesn't know what a bong is, he probably thinks "water pipe" has
>> something to do with plumbing.
>>
>> Try googling for "hookah".
>
><puff, puff, pass>
Bogart.
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In article <[email protected]>,
"mttt" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Bong?
> >
>
> Slang. Water pipe.
If he doesn't know what a bong is, he probably thinks "water pipe" has
something to do with plumbing.
Try googling for "hookah".