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charlie b

23/02/2004 1:58 AM

Rail & Stile Edge Treatment Question

Am doing some simple rail and stile cabinet doors.
Want to keep the edge treatment simple - want to
go with 1/8th inch roundover. Easy and straight
foreward on the outside edges but the inside
edges are a problem in the corners where the
rail and stile come together.

Am considering rounding over the ends of the
rails as well as the inside edges. Have posted
the idea and some shots of some scrap with the
idea to ab.b.p.w.. The rail to stile is obvious
but soft and may be a design element since it
adds another shadow line.

So comments, suggestions, opinions would be
appreciated.

charlie b


This topic has 7 replies

LH

"Lowell Holmes"

in reply to charlie b on 23/02/2004 1:58 AM

23/02/2004 8:18 AM

I would make a sample door and see how it looked. :-)


"charlie b" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Am doing some simple rail and stile cabinet doors.
> Want to keep the edge treatment simple - want to
> go with 1/8th inch roundover. Easy and straight
> foreward on the outside edges but the inside
> edges are a problem in the corners where the
> rail and stile come together.
>
> Am considering rounding over the ends of the
> rails as well as the inside edges. Have posted
> the idea and some shots of some scrap with the
> idea to ab.b.p.w.. The rail to stile is obvious
> but soft and may be a design element since it
> adds another shadow line.
>
> So comments, suggestions, opinions would be
> appreciated.
>
> charlie b

JD

"James D. Kountz"

in reply to charlie b on 23/02/2004 1:58 AM

23/02/2004 6:24 PM

Another good thing to do is stop the profile 1-2" before the corners leaving
it square in the corners only. I saw this in a magaine not too long ago and
thought it looked ok. I think it may have been a chamfer though.

Jim


"Bob S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Charlie,
>
> Don't overlook the eye appeal of a stopped edge treatment. You're thinking
> it's a problem when in fact it's used probably more than you think. Dry
> assemble the stiles and rails and clamp them. Now run the router and
> roundover bit around the inside edge. The small amount of the edges in
the
> corners that are not rounded over will add - not detract - to the overall
> appearance. Try one.
>
> Bob S.
>
> "charlie b" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Am doing some simple rail and stile cabinet doors.
> > Want to keep the edge treatment simple - want to
> > go with 1/8th inch roundover. Easy and straight
> > foreward on the outside edges but the inside
> > edges are a problem in the corners where the
> > rail and stile come together.
> >
> > Am considering rounding over the ends of the
> > rails as well as the inside edges. Have posted
> > the idea and some shots of some scrap with the
> > idea to ab.b.p.w.. The rail to stile is obvious
> > but soft and may be a design element since it
> > adds another shadow line.
> >
> > So comments, suggestions, opinions would be
> > appreciated.
> >
> > charlie b
>
>

BS

"Bob S."

in reply to charlie b on 23/02/2004 1:58 AM

23/02/2004 4:33 PM

Charlie,

Don't overlook the eye appeal of a stopped edge treatment. You're thinking
it's a problem when in fact it's used probably more than you think. Dry
assemble the stiles and rails and clamp them. Now run the router and
roundover bit around the inside edge. The small amount of the edges in the
corners that are not rounded over will add - not detract - to the overall
appearance. Try one.

Bob S.

"charlie b" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Am doing some simple rail and stile cabinet doors.
> Want to keep the edge treatment simple - want to
> go with 1/8th inch roundover. Easy and straight
> foreward on the outside edges but the inside
> edges are a problem in the corners where the
> rail and stile come together.
>
> Am considering rounding over the ends of the
> rails as well as the inside edges. Have posted
> the idea and some shots of some scrap with the
> idea to ab.b.p.w.. The rail to stile is obvious
> but soft and may be a design element since it
> adds another shadow line.
>
> So comments, suggestions, opinions would be
> appreciated.
>
> charlie b

Tt

"Toller"

in reply to charlie b on 23/02/2004 1:58 AM

23/02/2004 2:56 PM

I tried that same approach on my first cabinet. 2 of the 8 corners were
okay, so I threw the doors out and bought a R&S router bit.

Save yourself the trouble and do it right the first time. It is possible to
do it your way (as evidenced by my 2 good corners) but it requires a lot of
fussing and practice. Even then, a R&S bit does a better job.

CM

Chris Merrill

in reply to charlie b on 23/02/2004 1:58 AM

23/02/2004 4:09 PM

charlie b wrote:
> Am doing some simple rail and stile cabinet doors.
> Want to keep the edge treatment simple - want to
> go with 1/8th inch roundover. Easy and straight
> foreward on the outside edges but the inside
> edges are a problem in the corners where the
> rail and stile come together.

A slight variation would be to do the plain door and add quarter-round
molding to the inside edges. Saves the cost of the router bit set and
gets the same look (with a little more work, maybe). Might even save
time, since the quarter-round can be sanded more easily prior to
glueing it to the door.

C

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tb

terry boivin

in reply to charlie b on 23/02/2004 1:58 AM

24/02/2004 4:14 AM

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 16:33:47 GMT, "Bob S." <[email protected]> wrote:
I agree with Bob. I use stopped champfers from time to time and the
look is rather elegant. Try it out.

TJB

>Charlie,
>
>Don't overlook the eye appeal of a stopped edge treatment. You're thinking
>it's a problem when in fact it's used probably more than you think. Dry
>assemble the stiles and rails and clamp them. Now run the router and
>roundover bit around the inside edge. The small amount of the edges in the
>corners that are not rounded over will add - not detract - to the overall
>appearance. Try one.
>
>Bob S.
>

LZ

Luigi Zanasi

in reply to charlie b on 23/02/2004 1:58 AM

23/02/2004 8:40 PM

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 01:58:08 -0800, charlie b <[email protected]>
scribbled:

>Am doing some simple rail and stile cabinet doors.
>Want to keep the edge treatment simple - want to
>go with 1/8th inch roundover. Easy and straight
>foreward on the outside edges but the inside
>edges are a problem in the corners where the
>rail and stile come together.
>
>Am considering rounding over the ends of the
>rails as well as the inside edges. Have posted
>the idea and some shots of some scrap with the
>idea to ab.b.p.w.. The rail to stile is obvious
>but soft and may be a design element since it
>adds another shadow line.
>
>So comments, suggestions, opinions would be
>appreciated.

I've almost always used a mitre for the joint between rails & stiles
sticking or edge treatment. It means that you need to make the stile a
little narrower at the end, and the tenon on the rail might need to
have different sized cheeks.

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Of course, that's been for making windows where the back side is a
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Luigi
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(1) WTF am I talking about? Can anyone have excess router bits or any
other tool??


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