The easiest fastest way I know of to pull posts without a machine is I use a
4x4 @ 10' long as a lever, what ever you can find as a fulcrum and a short
piece of chain.
I use a shorter piece of 4x4 as the fulcrum with a couple of blocks to
saddle the fulcrum and keep it attached with a bunji cord.
If the posts aren't set in concrete you can pop them out in about 2 mins a
piece.
tHAT
"cp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I have a about 18 4x4 post I need to remove in rebuilding my fence with
> metal post.
>
> Trying to avoid digging them out.... ouch !!!
>
> Would welcome any suggestions.
>
> Thanks
>
>
Many, many years ago I worked for a fence erector. Quite often we had to
take down old fences. This is the way he pulled posts.
1) He had a cable (or chain) with a hook on both ends - Say about 8 feet
long
2) One end he hooked to itself around the base of the post.
3) The other to the axel or bumper of a vehicle.
4) Important part! He had an old post that was leaning over facing the post
and had the cable running over it holding it up. This should be near the
post to be pulled
5) As the vehicle backed up the old post started to stand up from the cable
pull which then exerted a near vertical force on the post to be pulled.
Worked all the time.
Good luck
Bill
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> "cp" <[email protected]> wrote in news:lzwlc.17744$_41.1121223@attbi_s02:
>
> > I have a about 18 4x4 post I need to remove in rebuilding my fence with
> > metal post.
> >
> > Trying to avoid digging them out.... ouch !!!
> >
>
>
> We had to pull a couple last summer; first one I lifted right out, but
then
> we worked on the second for an hour before realizing it was set in
> concrete. At that point we pulled out the sawzall, cut it off about 6"
> below the surface, and filled the hole in. Good as gone. We weren't
> replacing these, but if we were I'd have just dug a new hole a few inches
> away from the old concrete.
>
> -Derek
cp wonders:
>I have a about 18 4x4 post I need to remove in rebuilding my fence with
>metal post.
>
>Trying to avoid digging them out.... ouch !
I've pulled a few with a standard bumper jack set into a loop of chain around
the post. Some come up easily this way, some don't.
Charlie Self
"An unfulfilled vocation drains the color from a man's entire existence."
Honore de Balzac
Anne Watson wrote:
> Been there, done that. Wrap a tow chain around the post. Then set one of
> those big bumper jacks so it catches the chain. Jack it up. Might need to
> set a 2 by under the jack to spread the base support.
>
>
If you don't have the bumper jack, lay the chain over a bare truck wheel
rim positioned close to the post. as you drive off with the chain
attached to your bumper, the wheel rolls and pulls upwards on the jack.
-Bruce
>
>
> "cp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>>I have a about 18 4x4 post I need to remove in rebuilding my fence with
>>metal post.
>>
>
>
>
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BruceR wrote:
> Anne Watson wrote:
>
>> Been there, done that. Wrap a tow chain around the post. Then set
>> one of
>> those big bumper jacks so it catches the chain. Jack it up. Might
>> need to
>> set a 2 by under the jack to spread the base support.
>>
>>
>
> If you don't have the bumper jack, lay the chain over a bare truck wheel
> rim positioned close to the post. as you drive off with the chain
> attached to your bumper, the wheel rolls and pulls upwards on the jack.
> -Bruce
make that "post" instead of "Jack" 8^)
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i used a cable com-a-long hung from a frame made of a 2 x 4 up one side
with a 4 x 4 going across to a step ladder(ladder helps to stalize this
frame). wrap the cable as low to the ground as possible and if not to wet
the post will pull up leaving a hole to put the metal post in with cement
. then you will not have to replace again.if the post is rotted it will
likely break at ground level then you will have to dig a round enough to
get cable & hook to hold .
cp wrote:
> I have a about 18 4x4 post I need to remove in rebuilding my fence with
> metal post.hope it works for you .
>
> Trying to avoid digging them out.... ouch !!!
>
> Would welcome any suggestions.
>
> Thanks
Tractor with three point hitch, and chain, if you can find one.
Wilson
"cp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I have a about 18 4x4 post I need to remove in rebuilding my fence with
> metal post.
>
> Trying to avoid digging them out.... ouch !!!
>
> Would welcome any suggestions.
>
> Thanks
>
>
They actually sell a jack specifically for that and it looks just like an
old car jack but it is taller and beefier. They aren't very expensive
either if I recall correctly... harbor freight sells one called a "Farm
Jack" for $40. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?
itemnumber=6530 I'm sure you can find one at any farm supply store too,
but I haven't actually LOOKED for one in about 20 years.
The trick is to get about 10' of logging chain, wrap it around the post
about 3 times and leave a loop to hook over the jack jaw. Just hold
tension on the chain as the jack goes up.
To be honest, we normally replace the jack with the bobcat or backhoe,
but the jack does work quite well and quickly. About the only thing you
may have problems with is the corner posts. These usually have some
concrete around the base and are almost impossible to pull up with a hand
jack. You just can't get the jack base far enough away from the post so
it isn't on top of the cement at the bottom.
Good luck
Jim
[email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote:
>>cp wonders:
>>
>>>I have a about 18 4x4 post I need to remove in rebuilding my fence
>>>with metal post.
>>>
>>>Trying to avoid digging them out.... ouch !
>>
>>I've pulled a few with a standard bumper jack set into a loop of chain
>>around the post. Some come up easily this way, some don't.
>>
Been there, done that. Wrap a tow chain around the post. Then set one of
those big bumper jacks so it catches the chain. Jack it up. Might need to
set a 2 by under the jack to spread the base support.
"cp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I have a about 18 4x4 post I need to remove in rebuilding my fence with
> metal post.
>
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote:
>cp wonders:
>
>>I have a about 18 4x4 post I need to remove in rebuilding my fence with
>>metal post.
>>
>>Trying to avoid digging them out.... ouch !
>
>I've pulled a few with a standard bumper jack set into a loop of chain around
>the post. Some come up easily this way, some don't.
>
I'll second that. We used this method to pull about a dozen posts some years
back -- the first one was so easy, I let my son (~4 yr old at the time) work
the jack on the rest. He thought that was way cool.
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"cp" <[email protected]> wrote in news:lzwlc.17744$_41.1121223@attbi_s02:
> I have a about 18 4x4 post I need to remove in rebuilding my fence with
> metal post.
>
> Trying to avoid digging them out.... ouch !!!
>
We had to pull a couple last summer; first one I lifted right out, but then
we worked on the second for an hour before realizing it was set in
concrete. At that point we pulled out the sawzall, cut it off about 6"
below the surface, and filled the hole in. Good as gone. We weren't
replacing these, but if we were I'd have just dug a new hole a few inches
away from the old concrete.
-Derek
Wrap a chain around it as low as you can and use a jack. I've used old
bumper jacks, a Jack-All (bumper jack on steroids) and even a
hydraulic trolley jack with good results. A hydraulic bottle jack
won't work well because of it's short stroke and it's tough to get a
good bite on the chain.
Hope this helps,
Hal
On Sat, 08 May 2004 05:12:15 GMT, R Stone <"robert<no
spam>stone"@shaw.ca> wrote:
>i used a cable com-a-long hung from a frame made of a 2 x 4 up one side
>with a 4 x 4 going across to a step ladder(ladder helps to stalize this
>frame). wrap the cable as low to the ground as possible and if not to wet
>the post will pull up leaving a hole to put the metal post in with cement
>. then you will not have to replace again.if the post is rotted it will
>likely break at ground level then you will have to dig a round enough to
>get cable & hook to hold .
>
>cp wrote:
>
>> I have a about 18 4x4 post I need to remove in rebuilding my fence with
>> metal post.hope it works for you .
>>
>> Trying to avoid digging them out.... ouch !!!
>>
>> Would welcome any suggestions.
>>
>> Thanks
On Tue, 04 May 2004 04:57:17 GMT, Jim <[email protected]> wrote:
>They actually sell a jack specifically for that and it looks just like an
>old car jack but it is taller and beefier. They aren't very expensive
>either if I recall correctly... harbor freight sells one called a "Farm
>Jack" for $40. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?
>itemnumber=6530 I'm sure you can find one at any farm supply store too,
>but I haven't actually LOOKED for one in about 20 years.
>
If you do use one of these jacks for its intended purpose, be extremely
careful not to allow any body part you value (including things like arms
and head) in the path of the jack handle. If you slip while jacking up a
heavy item, or the handle slips while lowering a heavy item, that handle
will induce severe injury. At least that's the case with the jack my dad
has and that I dealt with when I was growing up.
On Mon, 03 May 2004 18:54:09 GMT, cp <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have a about 18 4x4 post I need to remove in rebuilding my fence with
> metal post. Trying to avoid digging them out.... ouch !!!
Cut 'em off at ground level with a chainsaw, put the metal post next to
it. It'll rot eventually, and it's lot less work than digging or pulling
'em. Me, I'd probably wrap a chain around them & pull 'em up with the
backhoe/loader, but that's not always an option.
Dave Hinz
"Wilson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Tractor with three point hitch, and chain, if you can find one.
Memories of standing a Ford 8N nearly straight up trying to pull some *very
old* fence posts this way! Hydraulics had the power, but the front end was
way too light.
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On Wed, 05 May 2004 07:26:08 -0500, Thomas Kendrick <[email protected]>
wrote:
>The farm jacks are still plenty available in 48" and 60" length.
>They ARE mechanical and require periodic lubrication.
>In the lowering setting, if less than 150# of weight is applied, the
>lifting mechanism will freefall, so hang onto the handle.
>They are intended for a straight lift and the beam WILL bend into a
>curve if side force is applied under load.
>I have two of them - one new and one from my grandfather, both still
>work.
>
Forgot about the free-fall bit, yeah, that was fun, too. I was referring
to the fact that if you slip while operating the handle, it *will* fly
upwards in an arc with tremendous force, making for some serious damage if
you have something valuable in the path of that arc.
>
>On Wed, 05 May 2004 03:34:41 GMT, Mark & Juanita
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 04 May 2004 04:57:17 GMT, Jim <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>They actually sell a jack specifically for that and it looks just like an
>>>old car jack but it is taller and beefier. They aren't very expensive
>>>either if I recall correctly... harbor freight sells one called a "Farm
>>>Jack" for $40. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?
>>>itemnumber=6530 I'm sure you can find one at any farm supply store too,
>>>but I haven't actually LOOKED for one in about 20 years.
>>>
>>
>> If you do use one of these jacks for its intended purpose, be extremely
>>careful not to allow any body part you value (including things like arms
>>and head) in the path of the jack handle. If you slip while jacking up a
>>heavy item, or the handle slips while lowering a heavy item, that handle
>>will induce severe injury. At least that's the case with the jack my dad
>>has and that I dealt with when I was growing up.
In article <lzwlc.17744$_41.1121223@attbi_s02>, "cp" <[email protected]>
wrote:
Soak the ground before trying to pull the posts. The jacks are the
right way to go. Some posts will break so you cannot escape the need to
dig. I have to replace a couple every year. Those that are planted in
concrete are much harder to pull.
Dick
> I have a about 18 4x4 post I need to remove in rebuilding my fence with
> metal post.
>
> Trying to avoid digging them out.... ouch !!!
>
> Would welcome any suggestions.
>
> Thanks
>
>
The farm jacks are still plenty available in 48" and 60" length.
They ARE mechanical and require periodic lubrication.
In the lowering setting, if less than 150# of weight is applied, the
lifting mechanism will freefall, so hang onto the handle.
They are intended for a straight lift and the beam WILL bend into a
curve if side force is applied under load.
I have two of them - one new and one from my grandfather, both still
work.
On Wed, 05 May 2004 03:34:41 GMT, Mark & Juanita
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 04 May 2004 04:57:17 GMT, Jim <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>They actually sell a jack specifically for that and it looks just like an
>>old car jack but it is taller and beefier. They aren't very expensive
>>either if I recall correctly... harbor freight sells one called a "Farm
>>Jack" for $40. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?
>>itemnumber=6530 I'm sure you can find one at any farm supply store too,
>>but I haven't actually LOOKED for one in about 20 years.
>>
>
> If you do use one of these jacks for its intended purpose, be extremely
>careful not to allow any body part you value (including things like arms
>and head) in the path of the jack handle. If you slip while jacking up a
>heavy item, or the handle slips while lowering a heavy item, that handle
>will induce severe injury. At least that's the case with the jack my dad
>has and that I dealt with when I was growing up.
"cp" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<lzwlc.17744$_41.1121223@attbi_s02>...
> I have a about 18 4x4 post I need to remove in rebuilding my fence with
> metal post.
>
> Trying to avoid digging them out.... ouch !!!
>
> Would welcome any suggestions.
>
Are they set in concrete?
If not, my first inclination would be to smack them near
the base with a sledge hammer and wiggle them back and forth
and from side to side to loosen them. Then I'd try levering
them up with a diggin iron or crowbar.
If that didn't work, I'd try a bigger hammer.
If they are very hard to get out, I'd consider cuting
them off flush with the ground and putting the posts
in new holes next to them.
Maybe I'd consider cutting them off flush with the ground
and then drilling a hole in each to accept the new metal
posts.... Depends on how long I expected the wooden
posts to last.
--
FF
I used a small hydraulic jack pushing against a board
screwed to the edge of the post. worked like a dream. the
jack is so small it's easily held in one hand. just be sure
to place a board or block under the jack to prevent it from
digging into the ground and to provide a level surface.
dave
cp wrote:
> I have a about 18 4x4 post I need to remove in rebuilding my fence with
> metal post.
>
> Trying to avoid digging them out.... ouch !!!
>
> Would welcome any suggestions.
>
> Thanks
>
>
There are several methods which have already been mentioned:
1. Cut off at ground level and abandon,
2. Bumper jack and chain, better yet two bumper jacks on opposite
sides,
3. Long lever method,
4. Soak and digging bar method,
5. Chain over a tire rim method - gotta be careful here:
neighbor hooked up his 4WD truck front bumper to the chain.
Put it into compound low and started backing up on dry driveway.
When the post broke, the chained piece launched toward his windshield.
Could be an expensive way to remove a post.
My favorite is #2 with a pair of 48" farm jacks and a short length of
1/4" chain.
On Mon, 03 May 2004 18:54:09 GMT, "cp" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I have a about 18 4x4 post I need to remove in rebuilding my fence with
>metal post.
>
>Trying to avoid digging them out.... ouch !!!
>
>Would welcome any suggestions.
>
>Thanks
>
Excellent suggestion !!
Thanks !
"Jim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> They actually sell a jack specifically for that and it looks just like an
> old car jack but it is taller and beefier. They aren't very expensive
> either if I recall correctly... harbor freight sells one called a "Farm
> Jack" for $40. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?
> itemnumber=6530 I'm sure you can find one at any farm supply store too,
> but I haven't actually LOOKED for one in about 20 years.
>
>
> The trick is to get about 10' of logging chain, wrap it around the post
> about 3 times and leave a loop to hook over the jack jaw. Just hold
> tension on the chain as the jack goes up.
>
> To be honest, we normally replace the jack with the bobcat or backhoe,
> but the jack does work quite well and quickly. About the only thing you
> may have problems with is the corner posts. These usually have some
> concrete around the base and are almost impossible to pull up with a hand
> jack. You just can't get the jack base far enough away from the post so
> it isn't on top of the cement at the bottom.
>
> Good luck
> Jim
> [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote:
> >>cp wonders:
> >>
> >>>I have a about 18 4x4 post I need to remove in rebuilding my fence
> >>>with metal post.
> >>>
> >>>Trying to avoid digging them out.... ouch !
> >>
> >>I've pulled a few with a standard bumper jack set into a loop of chain
> >>around the post. Some come up easily this way, some don't.
> >>
In article <lzwlc.17744$_41.1121223@attbi_s02>, cp <[email protected]> wrote:
>I have a about 18 4x4 post I need to remove in rebuilding my fence with
>metal post.
>
>Trying to avoid digging them out.... ouch !!!
>
>Would welcome any suggestions.
>
>Thanks
>
>
If they are set directly in the ground (no concrete) you can jack them
out with a bumper jack. Use a lenght of chain with a slip hook and/or
securely attach a block of wood to the posts for the jack to push on.
--
Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]
I used an engine hoist to remove a couple. It works great too.
Wayne
"cp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I have a about 18 4x4 post I need to remove in rebuilding my fence with
> metal post.
>
> Trying to avoid digging them out.... ouch !!!
>
> Would welcome any suggestions.
>
> Thanks
>
>