Sd

Silvan

27/12/2003 1:38 AM

Anyone have a Tool Crib catalog?

I'm pondering a fence retrofit for my POS saw in lieu of dropping a wad o'
bucks on a new saw that's too expensive, too heavy, too big, and too
expensive.

I saw something interesting in the Tool Crib catalog, and I wanted to
research it. Problem is, I can't find the blasted catalog, and I'm not
coming up with the right magical search terms.

It's a retrofit fence for "small table saws" somewhere toward the rear third
of the catalog, somewhere in the lower third of the right side of a page.
I want to say it was the "Power MAX" or "Powermax" or such, but since
google is turning up absolutely bupkis, either I have that wrong, or the
fence is so dismal that no one has ever mentioned it.

I tried searching on Amazon.com under table saw fences, and the thing I
remember seeing in the catalog is not listed.

If someone could tell me the real name for this thing, I'd surely appreciate
it. I suspect the catalog might have gotten tossed with the reams of
wrapping paper yesterday. Poor tool porn.

While on the subject, anyone have an opinion on my chances of getting a
worthwhile return on my investment if I sink $1-200 into an aftermarket
fence system for my Skil 3400? I *am* using it to do good work, in spite
of its problems; it does fit my small shop very well; and a new fence would
go a long way toward making it tolerable a little longer, until I can build
a proper shop to accommodate a proper saw. Thinking about why the saw is
pissing me off, everything comes down to the fence.

(Yes, I realize I could go another $100 for a BT3100. That's plan B, but
I'm inclined to give the fence thing a try and keep the saw I'm used to
using if I can *really* improve it's ability to cut straight with a quality
fence.)

--
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Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 27/12/2003 1:38 AM

28/12/2003 8:28 PM

[email protected] wrote:

> detailed drawings and a email address for the guy who wrote it. its
> 770k so i wont mail it till you tell me to. i think you said you are

770K is OK. I'd like to have it, so fire away. Thanks.

--
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Sd

Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 27/12/2003 1:38 AM

27/12/2003 10:31 AM

Walter H. Klaus wrote:

> PortaMax Jr. #2600 @$139.99

PORTA...

Did I at least have the approximate location in the catalog right? :)
Amazing how a few characters difference make it hard to find something.

Anyway, thanks guys. I'm not necessarily planning to buy this thing. I
just wanted to take a better look at it, and see what, if anything, people
have written about it

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Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 27/12/2003 1:38 AM

28/12/2003 11:22 AM

Greg G. wrote:

> I wish I could remember exactly how the fence was made, it's been a
> few years. As I recall, it was the stiffest fence in that price
> range. And it had that handy collapsible out-feed support.

Not *this* one. At least not the model of the the thing I have. The model
they're selling now is a bit different.

> Didn't mean to beat up on your saw... :-o

It's OK. It's a boat anchor. I know that. Try as I might, I can't get
enthusiastic about replacing it though. Not unless I score a good used
contractor's saw for $50. :)

> As I recall, for the money, it seemed usable. The thing that made me
> return it were the stripped 45 and 90 degree stops. Out of the box,
> they were hammered. But I never looked back, either. <g>

That was only the beginning of its shortcomings. Now that I've worked
around them though...

Or maybe I'm just fond of the stupid thing. It was my first serious
woodworking tool for the first thing I ever had that could legitimately be
called a "shop."

I love to hate it, but it's sort of like an ugly cousin. I can say anything
I want, but if *you* start busting on my cousin, I have to stand up for
him. :)

> shortcomings, the arbor bearings sprayed their guts all over the room
> and the blade came lose, scaring the hell out of me. I've had an
> aversion to inexpensive saws ever since.

Whee. There's a happy thought.

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http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

ss

in reply to Silvan on 27/12/2003 1:38 AM

29/12/2003 1:38 AM

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 20:28:01 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>
>> detailed drawings and a email address for the guy who wrote it. its
>> 770k so i wont mail it till you tell me to. i think you said you are
>
>770K is OK. I'd like to have it, so fire away. Thanks.

tried but it came back saying it exeded size limit. ill zip it and try
again. skeez

Sd

Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 27/12/2003 1:38 AM

27/12/2003 9:51 PM

Gerald wrote:

> If it is the PortaMax By Roussou(sp) then they work pretty good. i put

Thanks for that. I'm really thinking I might do this.

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ss

in reply to Silvan on 27/12/2003 1:38 AM

29/12/2003 1:43 AM

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 01:38:32 GMT, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 20:28:01 -0500, Silvan
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>[email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> detailed drawings and a email address for the guy who wrote it. its
>>> 770k so i wont mail it till you tell me to. i think you said you are
>>
>>770K is OK. I'd like to have it, so fire away. Thanks.
>
>tried but it came back saying it exeded size limit. ill zip it and try
>again. skeez

ok it appears that it went that way. at least it aint come back yet!
skeez

Gk

"Gerald"

in reply to Silvan on 27/12/2003 1:38 AM

27/12/2003 5:27 PM

If it is the PortaMax By Roussou(sp) then they work pretty good. i put one
on a Makita 8 inch ten years + ago and it still works. It did deflect at
the back when cutting full sheet goods on it but for light to medium work it
was accurate and easy to set. Sort of a small Bessy idea on the
construction.
"jds" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Looking at the Tool Crib Catalog what you seem to be describing is the
> "PortaMax Jr." This is a fence system for bench top table saws. It's
Tool
> Cribs part no 2600 and sells for $139.99. Have no experience with it.
> Think I'll stick with my Biesemeyer on the Unisaw! Hope this helps.
>
> Dave
>
>
> "Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I'm pondering a fence retrofit for my POS saw in lieu of dropping a wad
o'
> > bucks on a new saw that's too expensive, too heavy, too big, and too
> > expensive.
> >
> > I saw something interesting in the Tool Crib catalog, and I wanted to
> > research it. Problem is, I can't find the blasted catalog, and I'm not
> > coming up with the right magical search terms.
> >
> > It's a retrofit fence for "small table saws" somewhere toward the rear
> third
> > of the catalog, somewhere in the lower third of the right side of a
page.
> > I want to say it was the "Power MAX" or "Powermax" or such, but since
> > google is turning up absolutely bupkis, either I have that wrong, or the
> > fence is so dismal that no one has ever mentioned it.
> >
> > I tried searching on Amazon.com under table saw fences, and the thing I
> > remember seeing in the catalog is not listed.
> >
> > If someone could tell me the real name for this thing, I'd surely
> appreciate
> > it. I suspect the catalog might have gotten tossed with the reams of
> > wrapping paper yesterday. Poor tool porn.
> >
> > While on the subject, anyone have an opinion on my chances of getting a
> > worthwhile return on my investment if I sink $1-200 into an aftermarket
> > fence system for my Skil 3400? I *am* using it to do good work, in
spite
> > of its problems; it does fit my small shop very well; and a new fence
> would
> > go a long way toward making it tolerable a little longer, until I can
> build
> > a proper shop to accommodate a proper saw. Thinking about why the saw
is
> > pissing me off, everything comes down to the fence.
> >
> > (Yes, I realize I could go another $100 for a BT3100. That's plan B,
but
> > I'm inclined to give the fence thing a try and keep the saw I'm used to
> > using if I can *really* improve it's ability to cut straight with a
> quality
> > fence.)
> >
> > --
> > Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> > Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> > http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
> >
>
>

WH

"Walter H. Klaus"

in reply to Silvan on 27/12/2003 1:38 AM

27/12/2003 12:31 PM

PortaMax Jr. #2600 @$139.99
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm pondering a fence retrofit for my POS saw in lieu of dropping a wad o'
> bucks on a new saw that's too expensive, too heavy, too big, and too
> expensive.
>
> I saw something interesting in the Tool Crib catalog, and I wanted to
> research it. Problem is, I can't find the blasted catalog, and I'm not
> coming up with the right magical search terms.
>
> It's a retrofit fence for "small table saws" somewhere toward the rear
third
> of the catalog, somewhere in the lower third of the right side of a page.
> I want to say it was the "Power MAX" or "Powermax" or such, but since
> google is turning up absolutely bupkis, either I have that wrong, or the
> fence is so dismal that no one has ever mentioned it.
>
> I tried searching on Amazon.com under table saw fences, and the thing I
> remember seeing in the catalog is not listed.
>
> If someone could tell me the real name for this thing, I'd surely
appreciate
> it. I suspect the catalog might have gotten tossed with the reams of
> wrapping paper yesterday. Poor tool porn.
>
> While on the subject, anyone have an opinion on my chances of getting a
> worthwhile return on my investment if I sink $1-200 into an aftermarket
> fence system for my Skil 3400? I *am* using it to do good work, in spite
> of its problems; it does fit my small shop very well; and a new fence
would
> go a long way toward making it tolerable a little longer, until I can
build
> a proper shop to accommodate a proper saw. Thinking about why the saw is
> pissing me off, everything comes down to the fence.
>
> (Yes, I realize I could go another $100 for a BT3100. That's plan B, but
> I'm inclined to give the fence thing a try and keep the saw I'm used to
> using if I can *really* improve it's ability to cut straight with a
quality
> fence.)
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
>

wM

[email protected] (Mike Reed)

in reply to Silvan on 27/12/2003 1:38 AM

30/12/2003 5:48 AM

If you want to look at a paper catalog you don't have, go here:
http://catalogs.google.com
It's "beta," but I've been using it for nearly two years with no
problems.

Type in the name of the catalog you want and you get something like
this:
http://catalogs.google.com/catalogs?q=tool+crib

Now, the /really/ cool technology here is that you can string search
these scanned-in catalogs! They highlight the search string in the
image! So, searching for "portamax" (the original poster was looking
for this) returns:
http://catalogs.google.com/catalogs?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=portamax

Google rules. The only problem is that it usually takes a few weeks
for the latest catalog to make it to the site.

-Mike


Silvan <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I'm pondering a fence retrofit for my POS saw in lieu of dropping a wad o'
> bucks on a new saw that's too expensive, too heavy, too big, and too
> expensive.
>
> I saw something interesting in the Tool Crib catalog, and I wanted to
> research it. Problem is, I can't find the blasted catalog, and I'm not
> coming up with the right magical search terms.
>
> It's a retrofit fence for "small table saws" somewhere toward the rear third
> of the catalog, somewhere in the lower third of the right side of a page.
> I want to say it was the "Power MAX" or "Powermax" or such, but since
> google is turning up absolutely bupkis, either I have that wrong, or the
> fence is so dismal that no one has ever mentioned it.
>
> I tried searching on Amazon.com under table saw fences, and the thing I
> remember seeing in the catalog is not listed.
>
> If someone could tell me the real name for this thing, I'd surely appreciate
> it. I suspect the catalog might have gotten tossed with the reams of
> wrapping paper yesterday. Poor tool porn.
>
> While on the subject, anyone have an opinion on my chances of getting a
> worthwhile return on my investment if I sink $1-200 into an aftermarket
> fence system for my Skil 3400? I *am* using it to do good work, in spite
> of its problems; it does fit my small shop very well; and a new fence would
> go a long way toward making it tolerable a little longer, until I can build
> a proper shop to accommodate a proper saw. Thinking about why the saw is
> pissing me off, everything comes down to the fence.
>
> (Yes, I realize I could go another $100 for a BT3100. That's plan B, but
> I'm inclined to give the fence thing a try and keep the saw I'm used to
> using if I can *really* improve it's ability to cut straight with a quality
> fence.)

GG

Greg G.

in reply to Silvan on 27/12/2003 1:38 AM

28/12/2003 5:57 AM

Silvan said:

>No. I've done about all I can do with it already, and it isn't enough. The
>fence is seriously crappy.

I wish I could remember exactly how the fence was made, it's been a
few years. As I recall, it was the stiffest fence in that price
range. And it had that handy collapsible out-feed support.

>The same saw you wisely returned. :) There's only one table saw with the
>Skil nameplate. It's a POS for sure, but OTOH I already own it, and I have
>a ton of jigs built for it. I'm comfortable with it, and I can do
>acceptable, if unspectacular work even with the crap fence. A better fence
>would be gravy.

Didn't mean to beat up on your saw... :-o
As I recall, for the money, it seemed usable. The thing that made me
return it were the stripped 45 and 90 degree stops. Out of the box,
they were hammered. But I never looked back, either. <g>

>I've pretty much talked myself into it. Everything else is either too big,
>too heavy, too expensive, or just not appealing enough. It helps that I
>got the saw for $50 too, new. The street price is about $180, so the first
>$130 spent on a fence improvement is sort of a gray area. Not exactly
>free, but I'll wind up with a better saw than anyone else got for $180 this
>way.

All that really matters is that is does what you want. I had a really
crappy Delta portable T.S years ago, and after fixing up some of the
shortcomings, the arbor bearings sprayed their guts all over the room
and the blade came lose, scaring the hell out of me. I've had an
aversion to inexpensive saws ever since.


Greg G.

ss

in reply to Silvan on 27/12/2003 1:38 AM

28/12/2003 5:34 PM

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:47:16 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Bridger wrote:
>
>> you might consider building a fence. I made a fence for my bandsaw
>> from stuff I had laying around- a zero dollar project. took the basic
>> concept of a bies and scaled it down and modified it for available
>> parts. it works fine.
>
>Been thinking about that too. I'm a cheap bastard after all. Rails are
>easy. Square tube steel or aluminum. The fence itself has me stumped
>though. About all I can think of shop built wise is something cheesy like
>a star handled set screw fore and aft to manually lock down both ends of
>the fence. Seems like that would get tedious, and would chew up the rails
>too.
>
>I should google around for plans. I have time to decide anyway, as it will
>be a bit before I can put away enough pennies to buy anything either way.

http://www.tdl.com/~swensen/machines/fence/fence.html try here for
basic info for building one or i can send you a pdf file that has more
detailed drawings and a email address for the guy who wrote it. its
770k so i wont mail it till you tell me to. i think you said you are
on dial up and i know how long these things take to come down. i cant
find the site that i downloaded these plands from but i did save the
pdf. skeez

Sd

Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 27/12/2003 1:38 AM

28/12/2003 11:47 AM

Bridger wrote:

> you might consider building a fence. I made a fence for my bandsaw
> from stuff I had laying around- a zero dollar project. took the basic
> concept of a bies and scaled it down and modified it for available
> parts. it works fine.

Been thinking about that too. I'm a cheap bastard after all. Rails are
easy. Square tube steel or aluminum. The fence itself has me stumped
though. About all I can think of shop built wise is something cheesy like
a star handled set screw fore and aft to manually lock down both ends of
the fence. Seems like that would get tedious, and would chew up the rails
too.

I should google around for plans. I have time to decide anyway, as it will
be a bit before I can put away enough pennies to buy anything either way.

--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

Sd

Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 27/12/2003 1:38 AM

28/12/2003 1:33 AM

Greg G. wrote:

> Can you mod your existing fence to perform better?

No. I've done about all I can do with it already, and it isn't enough. The
fence is seriously crappy.

> I'm not certain what model of saw that is, but before I traded for the
> saw I have now, SWMBO bought a Skil something or another for $179 at

The same saw you wisely returned. :) There's only one table saw with the
Skil nameplate. It's a POS for sure, but OTOH I already own it, and I have
a ton of jigs built for it. I'm comfortable with it, and I can do
acceptable, if unspectacular work even with the crap fence. A better fence
would be gravy.

I've pretty much talked myself into it. Everything else is either too big,
too heavy, too expensive, or just not appealing enough. It helps that I
got the saw for $50 too, new. The street price is about $180, so the first
$130 spent on a fence improvement is sort of a gray area. Not exactly
free, but I'll wind up with a better saw than anyone else got for $180 this
way.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

Sd

Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 27/12/2003 1:38 AM

27/12/2003 10:29 AM

[email protected] wrote:

> Hi silva. I am not familiar with the skill 3400 but i got an old
> unisaw fence you can have for cheep if ya want it. I just put a bies

Thanks, but I probably couldn't get it to work very reasonably on this baby
benchtop saw. I appreciate the thought though!

--
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Bn

Bridger

in reply to Silvan on 27/12/2003 1:38 AM

28/12/2003 9:00 AM

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 01:33:55 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Greg G. wrote:
>
>> Can you mod your existing fence to perform better?
>
>No. I've done about all I can do with it already, and it isn't enough. The
>fence is seriously crappy.
>
>> I'm not certain what model of saw that is, but before I traded for the
>> saw I have now, SWMBO bought a Skil something or another for $179 at
>
>The same saw you wisely returned. :) There's only one table saw with the
>Skil nameplate. It's a POS for sure, but OTOH I already own it, and I have
>a ton of jigs built for it. I'm comfortable with it, and I can do
>acceptable, if unspectacular work even with the crap fence. A better fence
>would be gravy.
>
>I've pretty much talked myself into it. Everything else is either too big,
>too heavy, too expensive, or just not appealing enough. It helps that I
>got the saw for $50 too, new. The street price is about $180, so the first
>$130 spent on a fence improvement is sort of a gray area. Not exactly
>free, but I'll wind up with a better saw than anyone else got for $180 this
>way.




Silvan-

you might consider building a fence. I made a fence for my bandsaw
from stuff I had laying around- a zero dollar project. took the basic
concept of a bies and scaled it down and modified it for available
parts. it works fine.

GG

Greg G.

in reply to Silvan on 27/12/2003 1:38 AM

27/12/2003 12:19 PM

Silvan said:

>While on the subject, anyone have an opinion on my chances of getting a
>worthwhile return on my investment if I sink $1-200 into an aftermarket
>fence system for my Skil 3400? I *am* using it to do good work, in spite
>of its problems; it does fit my small shop very well; and a new fence would
>go a long way toward making it tolerable a little longer, until I can build
>a proper shop to accommodate a proper saw. Thinking about why the saw is
>pissing me off, everything comes down to the fence.

I would say that the chances of getting much for it are slim -
regardless of upgrades.

Can you mod your existing fence to perform better? I have a Delta
T-Square fence that was a bit sloppy, but a few mods helped
considerably. I have ripped 2x8x8' SYP into 2.25" planks for a
tabletop, and it worked great. Very little planing was necessary when
done gluing it up.

I'm not certain what model of saw that is, but before I traded for the
saw I have now, SWMBO bought a Skil something or another for $179 at
the Borg. After putting it together and studying it's construction, I
returned it and got a Delta 32-600 for $100 more. Substantial
difference in quality, and a cast iron top and guts. But while it's
no UniSaw or Powermatic, there is not much I can't do with it. Made a
host of jigs, zero-clearance plates, homebrew mechanical upgrades and
a dust collection system. My only real complaint now is the low HP
motor, (approx 1.3 HP) and the crappy splitter and guard - but that is
nothing unusual on any saw sold in the USA...


Greg G.

ss

in reply to Silvan on 27/12/2003 1:38 AM

27/12/2003 12:18 PM

On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 01:38:15 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm pondering a fence retrofit for my POS saw in lieu of dropping a wad o'
>bucks on a new saw that's too expensive, too heavy, too big, and too
>expensive.
>
>I saw something interesting in the Tool Crib catalog, and I wanted to
>research it. Problem is, I can't find the blasted catalog, and I'm not
>coming up with the right magical search terms.
>
>It's a retrofit fence for "small table saws" somewhere toward the rear third
>of the catalog, somewhere in the lower third of the right side of a page.
>I want to say it was the "Power MAX" or "Powermax" or such, but since
>google is turning up absolutely bupkis, either I have that wrong, or the
>fence is so dismal that no one has ever mentioned it.
>
>I tried searching on Amazon.com under table saw fences, and the thing I
>remember seeing in the catalog is not listed.
>
>If someone could tell me the real name for this thing, I'd surely appreciate
>it. I suspect the catalog might have gotten tossed with the reams of
>wrapping paper yesterday. Poor tool porn.
>
>While on the subject, anyone have an opinion on my chances of getting a
>worthwhile return on my investment if I sink $1-200 into an aftermarket
>fence system for my Skil 3400? I *am* using it to do good work, in spite
>of its problems; it does fit my small shop very well; and a new fence would
>go a long way toward making it tolerable a little longer, until I can build
>a proper shop to accommodate a proper saw. Thinking about why the saw is
>pissing me off, everything comes down to the fence.
>
>(Yes, I realize I could go another $100 for a BT3100. That's plan B, but
>I'm inclined to give the fence thing a try and keep the saw I'm used to
>using if I can *really* improve it's ability to cut straight with a quality
>fence.)

Hi silva. I am not familiar with the skill 3400 but i got an old
unisaw fence you can have for cheep if ya want it. I just put a bies
on my 1948 uni [ got it from SWMBO for christmas ] gloat??? I'm not
doing anything with the old one and i dont feel like doing the ebay
thing and foolin around with shipping and such. post a reply 1 way or
the other. skeez

pP

in reply to "[email protected]" on 27/12/2003 12:18 PM

28/12/2003 8:57 PM

www.amazon.com/toolcrib or call 800-635-5140

Bn

Bridger

in reply to Silvan on 27/12/2003 1:38 AM

28/12/2003 4:34 PM

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:47:16 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Bridger wrote:
>
>> you might consider building a fence. I made a fence for my bandsaw
>> from stuff I had laying around- a zero dollar project. took the basic
>> concept of a bies and scaled it down and modified it for available
>> parts. it works fine.
>
>Been thinking about that too. I'm a cheap bastard after all. Rails are
>easy. Square tube steel or aluminum. The fence itself has me stumped
>though. About all I can think of shop built wise is something cheesy like
>a star handled set screw fore and aft to manually lock down both ends of
>the fence. Seems like that would get tedious, and would chew up the rails
>too.
>
>I should google around for plans. I have time to decide anyway, as it will
>be a bit before I can put away enough pennies to buy anything either way.




think baltic birch, built up to the thickness you need for the
bracketry. a c clamp will lock it to the rail just fine....

Sd

Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 27/12/2003 1:38 AM

28/12/2003 9:08 PM

[email protected] wrote:

> tried but it came back saying it exeded size limit. ill zip it and try
> again. skeez

I'll have to bitch at them. One of the original rules, 10 years ago, was
that I had to have a 25 MB inbox. I guess they changed the rules on me
somewhere along the line without telling me.

It hasn't come up until now. :)

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jj

"jds"

in reply to Silvan on 27/12/2003 1:38 AM

27/12/2003 7:39 AM

Looking at the Tool Crib Catalog what you seem to be describing is the
"PortaMax Jr." This is a fence system for bench top table saws. It's Tool
Cribs part no 2600 and sells for $139.99. Have no experience with it.
Think I'll stick with my Biesemeyer on the Unisaw! Hope this helps.

Dave


"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm pondering a fence retrofit for my POS saw in lieu of dropping a wad o'
> bucks on a new saw that's too expensive, too heavy, too big, and too
> expensive.
>
> I saw something interesting in the Tool Crib catalog, and I wanted to
> research it. Problem is, I can't find the blasted catalog, and I'm not
> coming up with the right magical search terms.
>
> It's a retrofit fence for "small table saws" somewhere toward the rear
third
> of the catalog, somewhere in the lower third of the right side of a page.
> I want to say it was the "Power MAX" or "Powermax" or such, but since
> google is turning up absolutely bupkis, either I have that wrong, or the
> fence is so dismal that no one has ever mentioned it.
>
> I tried searching on Amazon.com under table saw fences, and the thing I
> remember seeing in the catalog is not listed.
>
> If someone could tell me the real name for this thing, I'd surely
appreciate
> it. I suspect the catalog might have gotten tossed with the reams of
> wrapping paper yesterday. Poor tool porn.
>
> While on the subject, anyone have an opinion on my chances of getting a
> worthwhile return on my investment if I sink $1-200 into an aftermarket
> fence system for my Skil 3400? I *am* using it to do good work, in spite
> of its problems; it does fit my small shop very well; and a new fence
would
> go a long way toward making it tolerable a little longer, until I can
build
> a proper shop to accommodate a proper saw. Thinking about why the saw is
> pissing me off, everything comes down to the fence.
>
> (Yes, I realize I could go another $100 for a BT3100. That's plan B, but
> I'm inclined to give the fence thing a try and keep the saw I'm used to
> using if I can *really* improve it's ability to cut straight with a
quality
> fence.)
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
>

Rt

"Rick"

in reply to Silvan on 27/12/2003 1:38 AM

27/12/2003 6:59 AM

You can find more info at:

www.rousseauco.com

Rick

"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm pondering a fence retrofit for my POS saw in lieu of dropping a wad o'
> bucks on a new saw that's too expensive, too heavy, too big, and too
> expensive.
>
> I saw something interesting in the Tool Crib catalog, and I wanted to
> research it. Problem is, I can't find the blasted catalog, and I'm not
> coming up with the right magical search terms.
>
> It's a retrofit fence for "small table saws" somewhere toward the rear
third
> of the catalog, somewhere in the lower third of the right side of a page.
> I want to say it was the "Power MAX" or "Powermax" or such, but since
> google is turning up absolutely bupkis, either I have that wrong, or the
> fence is so dismal that no one has ever mentioned it.
>
> I tried searching on Amazon.com under table saw fences, and the thing I
> remember seeing in the catalog is not listed.
>
> If someone could tell me the real name for this thing, I'd surely
appreciate
> it. I suspect the catalog might have gotten tossed with the reams of
> wrapping paper yesterday. Poor tool porn.
>
> While on the subject, anyone have an opinion on my chances of getting a
> worthwhile return on my investment if I sink $1-200 into an aftermarket
> fence system for my Skil 3400? I *am* using it to do good work, in spite
> of its problems; it does fit my small shop very well; and a new fence
would
> go a long way toward making it tolerable a little longer, until I can
build
> a proper shop to accommodate a proper saw. Thinking about why the saw is
> pissing me off, everything comes down to the fence.
>
> (Yes, I realize I could go another $100 for a BT3100. That's plan B, but
> I'm inclined to give the fence thing a try and keep the saw I'm used to
> using if I can *really* improve it's ability to cut straight with a
quality
> fence.)
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
>


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