Getting ready to assemble. I heard that you can't straight glue due to waxy
texture?
Thanks in advance,
Kevin
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>Never had that problem.
>
>Just clamp firmly and get on with it.
>
>My biggest problem is using too much epoxy and getting "ooze" which can be a
>PITA to clean up.
but have you edge glued up boards? from all the pro's you need to leave a film
of epoxy between the boards. with wide surfaces it would not be a issue but with
edge glueups when I get something other then the 5 minute epoxy I should test
it.
but epoxy is too much of a hassle to use all the time in woodworking.
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>A planer? I never thought I'd be reading that. I always visualize Knight
>Toolworks as a very quiet old world neander-mecca(tm). ...
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I would have to be the bionic man to hand plane all of the purpleheart and ipe I
use (G) I would wear a plane out a month (G)
but I still don't have a jointer (G)
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On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 07:35:51 GMT, "Dave" <[email protected]> brought forth
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>"Steve Knight" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I
>> run the wood through the planer then glue it up right away. I found a bit
>better
>> glueup if I wiped with acetone but not much. fresh milled wood is the most
>> important thing.
>
>A planer? I never thought I'd be reading that. I always visualize Knight
>Toolworks as a very quiet old world neander-mecca(tm). ...
Hell, if he used his own tools to do the work, it would make
them cost 3x as much. Our Steve is a regular Nahmite with
sanders, planers, dust collectors, electric lights and everything.
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FWW had an article on this recently and they found that wiping the surface
wtih acetone or the like did not help gluing oily woods. They found no
difference in the amount of PSI required to break a glue joint that was
wiped with a solvent vice one that was left natural. They found that lightly
sanding the surface immediately prior to glue up dramitically increased the
strength of the joint and was the best method for gluing these kinds of.
woods. That's just what I read, I have no personal experience.
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> Getting ready to assemble. I heard that you can't straight glue due to
waxy
> texture?
> Thanks in advance,
> Kevin
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"Steve Knight" writes:
> you and your epoxy (G) but the problem with epoxy is you can get those
invisible
> tight joints. got to have some glue in between the boards.
Never had that problem.
Just clamp firmly and get on with it.
My biggest problem is using too much epoxy and getting "ooze" which can be a
PITA to clean up.
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Wipe with acetone first.
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> Getting ready to assemble. I heard that you can't straight glue due to
waxy
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> Thanks in advance,
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So you think Gorilla glue over tightbond 2?
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> On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:15:52 -0800, "yobosaeyo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Getting ready to assemble. I heard that you can't straight glue due to
waxy
> >texture?
>
> freshly mill it dampen both pieces and use a poly glue on it.
> You can use epoxy too and don't dampen it. acetone does not really help
much.
> I glue a hell of a lot of oily woods and my tests showed if I use gorilla
glue
> and the steps above I get perfect glueups.
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:07:22 -0800, "yobosaeyo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>So you think Gorilla glue over tightbond 2?
for oily wood yes. all my tests showed it worked far better. as long as you
follow the recommendations above.
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Thanks for your input Steve. Much appreciated.
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> On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:07:22 -0800, "yobosaeyo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >So you think Gorilla glue over tightbond 2?
>
> for oily wood yes. all my tests showed it worked far better. as long as
you
> follow the recommendations above.
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>Hell, if he used his own tools to do the work, it would make
>them cost 3x as much. Our Steve is a regular Nahmite with
>sanders, planers, dust collectors, electric lights and everything.
I miss using more hand tools. I remember planing all my planes I made and using
files on them. it was faster then sanding for sure. but I don't have many more
power tools now then when I started. I don't have very many lights though (G)
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"Steve Knight" writes:
> but have you edge glued up boards? from all the pro's you need to leave a
film
> of epoxy between the boards.
Absolutely; however, a saw cut edge usually provides enough "tooth" for the
epoxy to bond to the wood.
> with wide surfaces it would not be a issue but with
> edge glueups when I get something other then the 5 minute epoxy I should
test
> it.
Never consider using 5 minute epoxy for anything other than an a temporary
emergency repair.
> but epoxy is too much of a hassle to use all the time in woodworking.
Without question, epoxy is unnecessary for general wood working
applications; however, I don't consider real teak to be an indoor
furniture/cabinet material.
It represents a special case IMHO.
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:15:52 -0800, "yobosaeyo" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Getting ready to assemble. I heard that you can't straight glue due to waxy
>texture?
>Thanks in advance,
> Kevin
Norm cleans the surface with acetone before applying glue.
>It's epoxy time.
>
>Don't send a boy.
you and your epoxy (G) but the problem with epoxy is you can get those invisible
tight joints. got to have some glue in between the boards.
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Paraphrased from Understanding Wood Finishing by Bob Flexner:
If you are gonna use an oil or varnish wipe the surfaces with a cloth
dampened with naptha or lacquer thinner to remove the oils from the wood.
And apply the finish before oil has time to bleed back out from the wood.
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> Thanks, that's what I was thinking but not too sure. Now how about what
type
> if any of a finish on it.
> I am making a jewelry box for swmbo.
> Kevin
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:15:52 -0800, "yobosaeyo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Getting ready to assemble. I heard that you can't straight glue due to waxy
>texture?
freshly mill it dampen both pieces and use a poly glue on it.
You can use epoxy too and don't dampen it. acetone does not really help much.
I glue a hell of a lot of oily woods and my tests showed if I use gorilla glue
and the steps above I get perfect glueups.
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:20:50 -0700, "Belleauwood" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>FWW had an article on this recently and they found that wiping the surface
>wtih acetone or the like did not help gluing oily woods. They found no
>difference in the amount of PSI required to break a glue joint that was
>wiped with a solvent vice one that was left natural. They found that lightly
>sanding the surface immediately prior to glue up dramitically increased the
>strength of the joint and was the best method for gluing these kinds of.
>woods. That's just what I read, I have no personal experience.
yep or planing/milling the surface then glueup right away. that's what I do. I
run the wood through the planer then glue it up right away. I found a bit better
glueup if I wiped with acetone but not much. fresh milled wood is the most
important thing.
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"Steve Knight" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I
> run the wood through the planer then glue it up right away. I found a bit
better
> glueup if I wiped with acetone but not much. fresh milled wood is the most
> important thing.
A planer? I never thought I'd be reading that. I always visualize Knight
Toolworks as a very quiet old world neander-mecca(tm). ...
Thanks, that's what I was thinking but not too sure. Now how about what type
if any of a finish on it.
I am making a jewelry box for swmbo.
Kevin
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> > Thanks in advance,
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