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"P van Rijckevorsel"

06/10/2004 1:24 PM

### micro-FAQ on wood # 021

1. Some Frequently Asked Questions on wood:

Q: A Softwood is a soft wood and a Hardwood is a hard wood. Right?
A: False. A softwood is the wood of a conifer (or a Ginkgo), a hardwood is
the wood of a dicot tree. The hardest hardwood is some three times as hard
as the hardest softwood, but the hardest softwood is some four times as hard
as the softest hardwood. The softest woods in the world are hardwoods.

Q: A Conifer, that is the same thing as a Gymnosperm. Right?
A: Not quite: there are four groups of Gymnosperms, of which the Conifers
(with some six hundred species) are the biggest and most important. Ginkgo
(one species) is another such group. The remaining two groups don't yield
anything that could be regarded as timber.

Q: A wood with "cedar" in the name will surely be a softwood. Right?
A: False: "cedar" is a word that does not mean anything except a wood with a
certain type of fragrance (if that). Going only by frequency, "cedar" in the
US most often will be "Western Redcedar" (Thuja plicata), followed at some
distance by "Eastern Redcedar" (Juniperus virginiana) also marketed as
"Aromatic Cedar" [these are both softwoods]. A "cedar" from Central America
will usually be a Cedrela species; from SE Asia usually a Toona species
[these are both hardwoods]. Etc, etc [list goes on at considerable length].

Q: "Cherry" is the wood from the Cherry tree. Right?
A: Not really. The tree that cherries grow on does yield a classic wood,
called cherry, but this has always been fairly rare (these days cherry trees
are planted in a stunted form for pickability of the fruit). There is a US
timber tree ("Black Cherry", more or less closely related) that yields a
look-alike wood almost as good, and certainly a lot more available. This is
called cherry for convenience.

Q: "Brazilian Cherry "is a kind of cherry. Right?
A: False. The nearest wellknown relatives of "Brazilian Cherry" (Hymenaea),
more properly known as "Red Locust" or "Jatoba", will be Purpleheart
(Peltogyne) and Bubinga (Guibourtia). The closest relatives in the US will
be "Honey Locust" (Gleditsia) and the "Kentucky Coffetree" (Gymnocladus). A
(much) more distant relative is "Black Locust" (Robinia).

Q: What wood to use for a cutting board?
A: Maple, or something similar (any lightcolored hardwood, with a high
density and a fine structure, e.g. beech, birch, etc). Not to be recommended
are exotic hardwoods: their high degree of durability is because they
contain significant concentrations of exotic substances lethal to lots of
organisms. These substances are best avoided in food. The issue is
especially relevant when cooking for guests or children.

Q: A Live Oak is an oak that has not been cut down yet. Right?
A: False. There are three categories of genuine Oak (Quercus), found all
over the Northern Hemisphere: White Oaks, Red Oaks and Live Oaks. The woods
of these three are not closely comparable in any respect. Characters that
are shared by all three woods are prominent rays and a dendritic arrangement
of pores. All in all there are some 400 species of genuine Oak. In addition
there are any number of woods called Oak, for whatever reason strikes the
fancy of a wood trader.

Q: "Phillipine Mahogany" is mahogany from the Philippines. Right?
A: False. It may or may not be from the Philippines (probably not), but it
won't be Mahogany, ever.

Q: "Honduras Mahogany" is mahogany from Honduras. Right?
A: Depends. It could be, but usually is not (from Honduras, that is).

Q: "African Mahogany" is mahogany from Africa. Right?
A: Just about. The wood of Khaya is from tropical Africa and is usually
assumed to be a Mahogany.

Q: "Rhodesian Teak" is teak from Rhodesia. Right?
A: False. Baikiaea plurijuga is not teak, but a member of the Pea family. It
grows in several countries, one of which used to be called Rhodesia.

Q: "Nigerian Teak" is teak from Nigeria. Right?
A: Right. Plantation grown. Not that anybody would want to use it.

Q: "Java Teak" is teak from Java. Right?
A: Right. Plantation-grown, from the days the Dutch were there. High
quality.

Q: Teak is a really hard wood. Right?
A: Depends. Teak (Tectona grandis, family Labiatae) varies from soft as
butter and pale yellow to fairly hard and dark brown. Depends on provenance.

Q: Steel is stronger than wood. Right?
A: Depends. A piece of steel of a certain size will almost always be
stronger as a piece of wood the same size. A steel rod of a particular
length and mass as compared to a similarly sized rod of wood ...


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2. A handful of useful sites dealing with wood:

FPL:
- intro-page of the Forest Products Laboratory:
http://www2.fpl.fs.fed.us/

- technical properties of wood
http://www2.fpl.fs.fed.us/TechSheets/techmenu.html
including two downloadable books on US-woods

- the FPL "Wood Handbook. Wood as an engineering material"
(downloadable):
http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/FPLGTR/fplgtr113/fplgtr113.htm
(Hardcopy at Lee Valley)

- common and scientific names of wood
(best database around, with a fairly low level of error):
http://www2.fpl.fs.fed.us/CommNames2000.html


OTHER SOURCES:
- "The American Woods":
(http://www.lib.ncsu.edu/archives/forestry/hough/
(pictures only; a similar set is now in print as "the Woodbook")

- lots of pictures (fun), but short on accuracy and real information
full version (slow):
http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/indextotal.htm
small version (faster):
http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/index.htm

Some more pictures (very little information; not free of typo's)
http://www.woodworking.org/WC/woodsampler.html

a preliminary page on purpleheart
(the wood of the genus Peltogyne, family Leguminosae):
http://www.organicsculpture.com/Purpleheart.html

- for a more extensive link-page see:
http://www.nehosoc.nl/paginalinks.htm

- under reconstruction:
http://www.woodcollectors.org/

- availability of wood (US)
http://www.woodfinder.com/

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3. BOOKS:
Good entry-level books on wood are
"Good Wood Handbook" by Albert Jackson & David Day (cheapest and best)
"Woodworker's Guide to Wood" by Rick Peters ('passing grades')

An interesting book on a different way to obtain wood:
"Harvesting Urban Timber" by Sam Sherrill

Adult books on wood are
"Understanding Wood" by R. Bruce Hoadley
"Identifying Wood" by R. Bruce Hoadley

For those not shying away from a thick book:
"Holzatlas" by Rudi Wagenfuhr




This topic has 8 replies

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TWS

in reply to "P van Rijckevorsel" on 06/10/2004 1:24 PM

06/10/2004 1:13 PM

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 13:24:44 +0200, "P van Rijckevorsel"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>- the FPL "Wood Handbook. Wood as an engineering material"
> (downloadable):
>http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/FPLGTR/fplgtr113/fplgtr113.htm

Great info! Thanks. I found one link was not correct (it may depend
on your browser) but the link that worked for me is:
http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/fplgtr/fplgtr113/fplgtr113.htm

(lower case on FPLGTR)

TWS

Pv

"P van Rijckevorsel"

in reply to "P van Rijckevorsel" on 06/10/2004 1:24 PM

06/10/2004 4:39 PM

Thank you. I am sure I just copied this link from an open window, but
perhaps they changed it?
PvR


> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >- the FPL "Wood Handbook. Wood as an engineering material"
> > (downloadable):
> >http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/FPLGTR/fplgtr113/fplgtr113.htm

> TWS <[email protected]> schreef
> Great info! Thanks. I found one link was not correct (it may depend
> on your browser) but the link that worked for me is:
> http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/fplgtr/fplgtr113/fplgtr113.htm
>
> (lower case on FPLGTR)
>
> TWS

Pv

"P van Rijckevorsel"

in reply to "P van Rijckevorsel" on 06/10/2004 1:24 PM

06/10/2004 4:41 PM

> "P van Rijckevorsel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >> Q: A Live Oak is an oak that has not been cut down yet. Right?
> > A: False. There are three categories of genuine Oak (Quercus), found all
over the Northern Hemisphere: White Oaks, Red Oaks and Live Oaks. The woods
of these three are not closely comparable in any respect. Characters that
are shared by all three woods are prominent rays and a dendritic arrangement
of pores. All in all there are some 400 species of genuine Oak. In addition
there are any number of woods called Oak, for whatever reason strikes the
fancy of a wood trader.

> Leon <[email protected]> schreef
> How about adding the explanation of why a Live Oak is called a Live Oak.

***
Thanks. I suppose it could not hurt
PvR



Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "P van Rijckevorsel" on 06/10/2004 1:24 PM

06/10/2004 1:25 PM


"P van Rijckevorsel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> Q: A Live Oak is an oak that has not been cut down yet. Right?
> A: False. There are three categories of genuine Oak (Quercus), found all
> over the Northern Hemisphere: White Oaks, Red Oaks and Live Oaks. The
> woods
> of these three are not closely comparable in any respect. Characters that
> are shared by all three woods are prominent rays and a dendritic
> arrangement
> of pores. All in all there are some 400 species of genuine Oak. In
> addition
> there are any number of woods called Oak, for whatever reason strikes the
> fancy of a wood trader.


How about adding the explanation of why a Live Oak is called a Live Oak.

pc

patrick conroy

in reply to "P van Rijckevorsel" on 06/10/2004 1:24 PM

06/10/2004 3:06 PM

On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:25:27 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>How about adding the explanation of why a Live Oak is called a Live Oak.
>

Tree stays green year-round?

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "P van Rijckevorsel" on 06/10/2004 1:24 PM

06/10/2004 4:23 PM


"P van Rijckevorsel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>
>> Leon <[email protected]> schreef
>> How about adding the explanation of why a Live Oak is called a Live Oak.
>
> ***
> Thanks. I suppose it could not hurt
> PvR


Yeah it would at least answer why that answer is false. And, it is a rather
simple explanation as possibly compared to the differences between a red and
white oak.

LZ

Luigi Zanasi

in reply to "P van Rijckevorsel" on 06/10/2004 1:24 PM

08/10/2004 10:04 AM

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 13:24:44 +0200, "P van Rijckevorsel"
<[email protected]> scribbled:

>Q: A wood with "cedar" in the name will surely be a softwood. Right?
>A: False: "cedar" is a word that does not mean anything except a wood with a
>certain type of fragrance (if that). Going only by frequency, "cedar" in the
>US most often will be "Western Redcedar" (Thuja plicata), followed at some
>distance by "Eastern Redcedar" (Juniperus virginiana) also marketed as
>"Aromatic Cedar" [these are both softwoods]. A "cedar" from Central America
>will usually be a Cedrela species; from SE Asia usually a Toona species
>[these are both hardwoods]. Etc, etc [list goes on at considerable length].

In Northeastern North America, White cedar (Thuja occidentalis) is
probably more common than Eastern red cedar.

Luigi
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Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "P van Rijckevorsel" on 06/10/2004 1:24 PM

06/10/2004 4:30 PM

"patrick conroy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:25:27 GMT, "Leon"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>How about adding the explanation of why a Live Oak is called a Live Oak.
>>
>
> Tree stays green year-round?

Basically correct, but many trees especially Pines do that. Unlike the
trees that drop their leaves in the fall, the Live Oak drops its leaves for
a very brief period in the Spring. As the new growth leaves begin to
appear, the old leaves drop off. Therefore the Live Oak tree is never with
out leaves even though it does drop its all of its old leaves. It appears
to be Live as opposed to dead like many appear when without their leaves in
the winter.


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