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"Neal"

19/12/2003 7:08 PM

Dremel tools

I've been thinking about getting a small rotary tool for sanding small parts.
Are the Dremels worth the extra money over something I can get at Harbor
Freight? It would not see that much usage and I could buy 3 or 4 of the cheaper
ones for the price of one Dremel but I do dislike poor quality tools.

Neal



This topic has 24 replies

gG

in reply to "Neal" on 19/12/2003 7:08 PM

20/12/2003 1:58 AM

The good thing about a Dremel is you can always get parts.

Jj

JR

in reply to "Neal" on 19/12/2003 7:08 PM

23/12/2003 2:51 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> (Heh... Speaking of drilling. A lesson in using the right tool for the
> job. Once upon a time, at a previous job, I had to drill a hole in
> concrete, and the only tool I was given to do this was a Dremel with a 1/8"
> mild steel bit. I forget why I was trying to do this. Anyway, it was fun.
> I actually melted the bit and it started throwing off little blobs of
> red-hot metal. :)

Proving once again JR's theory of tool use:

Any tool can be substituted for any other tool as long as you're not too
fussy about the results.
;-)

MC & HNY to one and all

--
-JR
Hung like Einstein and smart as a horse

Sd

Silvan

in reply to "Neal" on 19/12/2003 7:08 PM

19/12/2003 8:03 PM

Neal wrote:

> Freight? It would not see that much usage and I could buy 3 or 4 of the
> cheaper ones for the price of one Dremel but I do dislike poor quality
> tools.

Dunno. I don't have one of the cheapos, and I haven't really looked at
them. Having said that, if I had it to do over again, I would probably buy
a cheapo.

My Dremel really hasn't been all that useful. I'm glad I have it, and it's
a well-made little tool, but I don't turn to it very often. I left it
loaned out for three months, and never missed it once.

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Silvan

in reply to "Neal" on 19/12/2003 7:08 PM

23/12/2003 9:04 PM

CW wrote:

> I have never seen a mild steel cutting bit. Must have been a poor copy of
> a Chinese tool.

Wasn't a Dremel bit. Just something I scrounged up.

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EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Neal" on 19/12/2003 7:08 PM

20/12/2003 1:07 PM


"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> The largest use I've put it to is cutting with those brittle little cutoff
> wheels. Whirrrrrrrr, slip, crack. Unscrew. Break off remaining bit.
Fit
> new disc. Break new disc. Fit new disc. Screw. Whirrrrrrrrr, slip,
> crack. Repeat. There's a reason they put 100 of those things in every
> jar. (Or maybe it's 50. You get the idea.)

Hey, I know how to do that! The guy on the TV commercial never breaks his
though.

I also find the engraving bit helpful also. I marked a lot of my tools with
it. The drum sander can be handy for tight spaces. I don't use if often,
but once in a while it can be a real time saver.
Ed
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http://pages.cthome.net/edhome

TR

[email protected] (Robert Hebert)

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 20/12/2003 1:07 PM

20/12/2003 9:06 AM

I have been doing Intarsia and Fretwork for 6 years and couldn't live
without my 2 Dremels. I have one set up as a mini router and one at my
sitting bench with the flex shaft and use it all the time. I am one
that prefers not to learn the hard way that I should have known to buy
better!
However it all boils down to usage. Minimal usage go less expensive,
heavy use like mine, go Dremel.
Hope this helps

Bob Hebert
The Shape of Things
Carson City NV

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Neal" on 19/12/2003 7:08 PM

19/12/2003 11:12 PM

The problem with the Dremel is I forget I have it ... and I've the current
one for 10+ years. It's used so little that it rarely enters the equation as
a problem solver. About a week later I'll think, damn, I could have used the
Dremel and one of those little barrel sanders for that.

I can, however, guarantee that if I didn't have it, I'd feel the need almost
immediately. It's also does double duty for signing your work without the
expense of branding irons and stamps.

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"Silvan" wrote in message

> My Dremel really hasn't been all that useful. I'm glad I have it, and
it's
> a well-made little tool, but I don't turn to it very often. I left it
> loaned out for three months, and never missed it once.

EO

"Ed. O."

in reply to "Neal" on 19/12/2003 7:08 PM

19/12/2003 9:46 PM

Neal,
I bought one of the off brands for $20 at one of those traveling tool
shows. It is perfect for the amount of work that I find use. Plastic case
with a slew of bits and sanding discs.




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[email protected] (RubEric)

in reply to "Ed. O." on 19/12/2003 9:46 PM

20/12/2003 6:14 AM

I love my little Dremel. I have had die grinders for many years and would be
lost without them. I have a larger Makita die grinder I use for the big jobs,
but it is the Dremel that gets used the most.

pP

[email protected] (Plabovitz)

in reply to [email protected] (RubEric) on 20/12/2003 6:14 AM

20/12/2003 4:09 PM

Had a dremel for years, it broke down, sent it back and for minimal $$ they
replaced with a newer model, great service for a great tool and worth the extra
$$

Sd

Silvan

in reply to [email protected] (RubEric) on 20/12/2003 6:14 AM

23/12/2003 11:20 AM

Fly-by-Night CC wrote:

> Axully I just unpacked mine this afternoon - didn't realize the thing is
> made by Bosch. (Dremel is a division of Bosch.)

I don't think they were 10 years ago. I'm not bored enough to pore over
this thing with a manifying glass, but I'm not seeing the word "Bosch" in
the manual.

They probably got bought out by the Corporation Corporation.

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Sd

Silvan

in reply to [email protected] (RubEric) on 20/12/2003 6:14 AM

21/12/2003 10:24 AM

Fly-by-Night CC wrote:

>> It might even be made in the USA. Maybe. I think mine was, but I got it
>> close to 10 years ago.
>
> Picked one up this week at daBorg and, yes, still USA made.

Wow! Well, in that case, I guess I take back everything else I've said in
this thread. I'd have bought the real deal for no more than the price
difference probably was. Chiwan has enough money anyway.

I'm glad the OP made the right choice. :)

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GG

Greg G.

in reply to [email protected] (RubEric) on 20/12/2003 6:14 AM

21/12/2003 3:10 AM

Silvan thus spake:

>Neal wrote:
>
>> like a company that stands behind their products as appears to be the case
>> with Dremel.
>
>It might even be made in the USA. Maybe. I think mine was, but I got it
>close to 10 years ago.
>
>Haven't had to replace the brushes yet, incidentally.

Same here. I've had mine for over 10 years - no problems and no brush
replacements. Having lived in 3 cities in Florida and now Atlanta, I
never could find the darned thing when I needed it, but now that I
have a shop set up, it resides in an old blow-molded camcorder case in
it's own little spot on the shelf under the workbench.
Handy little f#%$ers.

Greg G.

Pj

"P©WÉ®T©©LMAN ²ºº3"

in reply to [email protected] (RubEric) on 20/12/2003 6:14 AM

23/12/2003 9:13 PM


"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Fly-by-Night CC wrote:
>
> > Axully I just unpacked mine this afternoon - didn't realize the thing is
> > made by Bosch. (Dremel is a division of Bosch.)
>
> I don't think they were 10 years ago. I'm not bored enough to pore over
> this thing with a manifying glass, but I'm not seeing the word "Bosch" in
> the manual.
>
> They probably got bought out by the Corporation Corporation.

Here in Canada we were able to get Dremel & Skil parts for a short while
through Bosch, now it's back to just Bosch & Skil.


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FC

Fly-by-Night CC

in reply to [email protected] (RubEric) on 20/12/2003 6:14 AM

20/12/2003 11:51 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote:

> It might even be made in the USA. Maybe. I think mine was, but I got it
> close to 10 years ago.

Picked one up this week at daBorg and, yes, still USA made.

--
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Offering a shim for the Porter-Cable 557 type 2 fence design.
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FC

Fly-by-Night CC

in reply to [email protected] (RubEric) on 20/12/2003 6:14 AM

22/12/2003 10:40 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote:

> >> It might even be made in the USA. Maybe. I think mine was, but I got it
> >> close to 10 years ago.
> >
> > Picked one up this week at daBorg and, yes, still USA made.
>
> Wow! Well, in that case, I guess I take back everything else I've said in
> this thread. I'd have bought the real deal for no more than the price
> difference probably was. Chiwan has enough money anyway.
>
> I'm glad the OP made the right choice. :)

Axully I just unpacked mine this afternoon - didn't realize the thing is
made by Bosch. (Dremel is a division of Bosch.)

--
Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company
Offering a shim for the Porter-Cable 557 type 2 fence design.
<http://www.flybynightcoppercompany.com>
<http://www.easystreet.com/~onlnlowe/index.html>

Sd

Silvan

in reply to [email protected] (RubEric) on 20/12/2003 6:14 AM

21/12/2003 12:08 AM

Neal wrote:

> like a company that stands behind their products as appears to be the case
> with Dremel.

It might even be made in the USA. Maybe. I think mine was, but I got it
close to 10 years ago.

Haven't had to replace the brushes yet, incidentally.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

NN

"Neal"

in reply to [email protected] (RubEric) on 20/12/2003 6:14 AM

20/12/2003 2:14 PM


"Plabovitz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Had a dremel for years, it broke down, sent it back and for minimal $$ they
> replaced with a newer model, great service for a great tool and worth the
extra
> $$

Thanks for all the input on the Dremel. Since Home Depot is having the 20% off
sale, I went ahead and bought a Dremel. I probably will not use it enough to
justify the additional cost but it does seem to be well made and I do like a
company that stands behind their products as appears to be the case with Dremel.

Neal

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to "Neal" on 19/12/2003 7:08 PM

20/12/2003 9:12 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> The largest use I've put it to is cutting with those brittle little cutoff
> wheels. Whirrrrrrrr, slip, crack. Unscrew. Break off remaining bit. Fit
> new disc. Break new disc. Fit new disc. Screw. Whirrrrrrrrr, slip,
> crack. Repeat. There's a reason they put 100 of those things in every
> jar. (Or maybe it's 50. You get the idea.)
>
I bought some reinforced discs ("The Good Ones") at a local hobby shop
some time back. I haven't broken one since. You can even put a load on
the face, not just the edge. Until I got these, I had the same problem
you describe.

--
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Sd

Silvan

in reply to "Neal" on 19/12/2003 7:08 PM

20/12/2003 1:38 AM

Swingman wrote:

> The problem with the Dremel is I forget I have it ... and I've the current
> one for 10+ years. It's used so little that it rarely enters the equation
> as a problem solver. About a week later I'll think, damn, I could have
> used the Dremel and one of those little barrel sanders for that.

I'm about the same way. Or I have a problem I can't solve with it, and the
next time I'm at Lowe's I see just the magic bit that would have worked.

Those bits are sooooo expensive though.

The largest use I've put it to is cutting with those brittle little cutoff
wheels. Whirrrrrrrr, slip, crack. Unscrew. Break off remaining bit. Fit
new disc. Break new disc. Fit new disc. Screw. Whirrrrrrrrr, slip,
crack. Repeat. There's a reason they put 100 of those things in every
jar. (Or maybe it's 50. You get the idea.)

Very useful when it's useful though. Cutting off rusted nuts, cutting slots
into mangled screws, cutting through car exhaust too hard to reach with a
hacksaw...

I've found plenty of other uses for it too, mind you. Just none of them
earth-shattering. It's not a tool I'm really jazzed about owning the way
some others are. It ain't no drill press.

(Heh... Speaking of drilling. A lesson in using the right tool for the
job. Once upon a time, at a previous job, I had to drill a hole in
concrete, and the only tool I was given to do this was a Dremel with a 1/8"
mild steel bit. I forget why I was trying to do this. Anyway, it was fun.
I actually melted the bit and it started throwing off little blobs of
red-hot metal. :)

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

Sd

Silvan

in reply to "Neal" on 19/12/2003 7:08 PM

21/12/2003 12:13 AM

Tim Carver wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 01:38:04 -0500, Silvan
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>The largest use I've put it to is cutting with those brittle little cutoff
>>wheels. Whirrrrrrrr, slip, crack. Unscrew. Break off remaining bit.

> Have you tried the fiber reinforced cutoff wheels? They last about
> 20zx longer. They generally won't break, they just start getting
> smaller rapidly after you've cut off several screws or nails with
> them.

I have indeed, and they *are* much better. The "heavy duty" version of the
brittle little wheels is much better too. Of course, I don't have any of
those left, so I'm stuck trying to use up the big stack of the flimsy ones.

Yes, I know I can go buy these anywhere, and I suppose I have no good excuse
for not doing so, other than it just hasn't made my shopping list. I
really don't have any but the most occasional use for these things.

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Cc

"CW"

in reply to "Neal" on 19/12/2003 7:08 PM

24/12/2003 1:28 AM

I have never seen a mild steel cutting bit. Must have been a poor copy of a
Chinese tool.

"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> a Dremel with a 1/8"
> mild steel bit.

TC

Tim Carver

in reply to "Neal" on 19/12/2003 7:08 PM

20/12/2003 10:27 PM

On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 01:38:04 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:

>The largest use I've put it to is cutting with those brittle little cutoff
>wheels. Whirrrrrrrr, slip, crack. Unscrew. Break off remaining bit. Fit
>new disc. Break new disc. Fit new disc. Screw. Whirrrrrrrrr, slip,
>crack. Repeat. There's a reason they put 100 of those things in every
>jar. (Or maybe it's 50. You get the idea.)

Have you tried the fiber reinforced cutoff wheels? They last about
20zx longer. They generally won't break, they just start getting
smaller rapidly after you've cut off several screws or nails with
them.

Tim Carver
[email protected]

gG

in reply to Tim Carver on 20/12/2003 10:27 PM

21/12/2003 3:35 AM

I "killed" my dremel cutting metal corner bead in drywall with a cutoff wheel.
About a buck and a half worth of a coupler and I was back cutting metal. It
cost me less than $2 to surgically remove a big chunk of drywall at a corner
and save the other side. It got my vote as handiest tool that day.


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