jm

"john moorhead"

25/01/2004 6:53 AM

Table Saw Magic - anyone built any of the jigs?

Folks -

I've been going over "Table Saw Magic" by Jim Tolpin and have started
building some of the jigs in the book. Have any of you built his jigs or
made any mods?

He has a "Universal Fence" that everything else attaches to. It is a ~6"
vertical fence that is cradled on the top of your existing rip fence. It has
a T track and a couple of captive nuts, for attaching other jigs or
accesories. I built it yesterday, that's the first step. Next is a
vertical sled, which I am building. Toward the end of the book there's a
raised panel sled that lets RT saw owners work on the right side while
keeping the blade vertical. It seems as if these two vertical fence jigs
could be easily combined.

I haven't *used* the two jigs I've built yet, they're still going together,
but everthing looks promising. In looking at the other jigs in the book, I
am continually going "A-HA!". While I may not be the sharpest tool on the
bench, I know my kindling and Tolpin has some *really* insightful ideas and
methods in this book.

I'd be interested to know if any of you have built his jigs and your
feedback.


John Moorhead
Lakeport CA


This topic has 26 replies

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

26/01/2004 5:23 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Doug
Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

> All I've ever seen in the paint/stain aisles at either Lowe's or HD is Minwax
> Paste Finishing Wax, never any Johnson's Paste Wax. But I'll look again the
> next time I'm there. Thanks.

Minwax works great.

djb

--
There are no socks in my email address.

"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"

AE

Allen Epps

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

31/01/2004 9:18 AM

In article <[email protected]>, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Doug Miller wrote:
>
> > All I've ever seen in the paint/stain aisles at either Lowe's or HD is
> > Minwax Paste Finishing Wax, never any Johnson's Paste Wax. But I'll look
> > again the next time I'm there. Thanks.
>
I found it in the cleaning supplies aisle, not the finishing aisle.

Allen
Catonsville, MD

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

26/01/2004 1:38 AM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:05:59 -0500, "Dave" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>What kind of wax should be used to apply to the top of the table saw,
>>jointer, etc?
>
>I have been using Johnson's Paste wax for years. Pay no attention to
>the rumor that this product is discontinued. Available everywhere in
>the US.

Well... it's available, yes, but "everywhere" is a substantial exaggeration:
try finding it at Wal-Mart, for example, or Kroger. Good luck. Ya gotta know
where to look. Supposedly, Home Depot and Lowe's stock it in some areas of the
country, but not where I live (Indianapolis). Small hardware stores seem to be
the best places to look.

--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?

Pp

"Phil"

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

26/01/2004 8:33 AM

3M makes a product called T9. Supposed to work great. Haven't tried it yet
though.

"Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What kind of wax should be used to apply to the top of the table saw,
> jointer, etc?
>
>
> "Nuttree" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:UESQb.265353$X%5.84477@pd7tw2no...
> > John,
> > Are this jigs going to fit over the General (Bessy clone) fence or are
you
> > replacing it? Do they fit with friction or do they fasten some how? I
> > guess I am going to have to get the book.
> >
> > "john moorhead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:9KJQb.15949$U%5.112197@attbi_s03...
> > > Folks -
> > >
> > > I've been going over "Table Saw Magic" by Jim Tolpin and have started
> > > building some of the jigs in the book. Have any of you built his
jigs
> > or
> > > made any mods?
> > >
> > > He has a "Universal Fence" that everything else attaches to. It is a
> ~6"
> > > vertical fence that is cradled on the top of your existing rip fence.
It
> > has
> > > a T track and a couple of captive nuts, for attaching other jigs or
> > > accesories. I built it yesterday, that's the first step. Next is a
> > > vertical sled, which I am building. Toward the end of the book there's
a
> > > raised panel sled that lets RT saw owners work on the right side while
> > > keeping the blade vertical. It seems as if these two vertical fence
> jigs
> > > could be easily combined.
> > >
> > > I haven't *used* the two jigs I've built yet, they're still going
> > together,
> > > but everthing looks promising. In looking at the other jigs in the
> book,
> > I
> > > am continually going "A-HA!". While I may not be the sharpest tool on
> the
> > > bench, I know my kindling and Tolpin has some *really* insightful
ideas
> > and
> > > methods in this book.
> > >
> > > I'd be interested to know if any of you have built his jigs and your
> > > feedback.
> > >
> > >
> > > John Moorhead
> > > Lakeport CA
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

JC

John Crea

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

26/01/2004 11:48 AM

T9 is NOT a 3M product

John

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:33:18 -0500, "Phil" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>3M makes a product called T9. Supposed to work great. Haven't tried it yet
>though.
>
>"Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> What kind of wax should be used to apply to the top of the table saw,
>> jointer, etc?
>>
>>
>> "Nuttree" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:UESQb.265353$X%5.84477@pd7tw2no...
>> > John,
>> > Are this jigs going to fit over the General (Bessy clone) fence or are
>you
>> > replacing it? Do they fit with friction or do they fasten some how? I
>> > guess I am going to have to get the book.
>> >
>> > "john moorhead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news:9KJQb.15949$U%5.112197@attbi_s03...
>> > > Folks -
>> > >
>> > > I've been going over "Table Saw Magic" by Jim Tolpin and have started
>> > > building some of the jigs in the book. Have any of you built his
>jigs
>> > or
>> > > made any mods?
>> > >
>> > > He has a "Universal Fence" that everything else attaches to. It is a
>> ~6"
>> > > vertical fence that is cradled on the top of your existing rip fence.
>It
>> > has
>> > > a T track and a couple of captive nuts, for attaching other jigs or
>> > > accesories. I built it yesterday, that's the first step. Next is a
>> > > vertical sled, which I am building. Toward the end of the book there's
>a
>> > > raised panel sled that lets RT saw owners work on the right side while
>> > > keeping the blade vertical. It seems as if these two vertical fence
>> jigs
>> > > could be easily combined.
>> > >
>> > > I haven't *used* the two jigs I've built yet, they're still going
>> > together,
>> > > but everthing looks promising. In looking at the other jigs in the
>> book,
>> > I
>> > > am continually going "A-HA!". While I may not be the sharpest tool on
>> the
>> > > bench, I know my kindling and Tolpin has some *really* insightful
>ideas
>> > and
>> > > methods in this book.
>> > >
>> > > I'd be interested to know if any of you have built his jigs and your
>> > > feedback.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > John Moorhead
>> > > Lakeport CA
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>

rr

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

27/01/2004 7:14 AM

I use a "special" was made from Johnson's. Harder'n a
rock and almost bulletproof. When you finally find
Johnson's wax, do this:
(all measuring by volume)

1/3 Johnsons wax
1/3 Carnuba flakes
1/3 Pure beeswax

Melt slowly in an old aluminum coffeepot (thriftstore $1.00)
on a hotplate OUTSIDE!! When melted together, remove from
heat and blend in enough pure turpentine to make a paste again.
(I often do the melting/hardening thing several times til I
get the consistency I want.) What you're looking for is a barely
workable paste--(hard) This stuff goes on stiff and needs to
be buffed out almost immediately. You can give yourself more
time by adding more turp. Once you get this stuff rubbed in
everywhere--miter slot, extension wings, fence rails. table
top and fence surfaces, you'll have a very slippery, HARD surface
that will not give you finishing problems when you drag your
wood across it. My CI Delta Contractor's saw sits outside
year round for the past 3yrs--right now covered by 18" of snow
(tarped) and the metal surfaces show no ill effects. Spring and
Fall I strip with lacquer thinner and re-apply the wax, heating
surfaces somewhat with a heat gun for initial light coat, then
final protective coat. Holds up well between the 100plus to
minus20 degree temp swings we have here in Montana.

Roger



John Crea <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> T9 is NOT a 3M product
>
> John
>
> On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:33:18 -0500, "Phil" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >3M makes a product called T9. Supposed to work great. Haven't tried it yet
> >though.
> >
> >"Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> What kind of wax should be used to apply to the top of the table saw,
> >> jointer, etc?
> >>
> >>
> >> "Nuttree" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:UESQb.265353$X%5.84477@pd7tw2no...
> >> > John,
> >> > Are this jigs going to fit over the General (Bessy clone) fence or are
> you
> >> > replacing it? Do they fit with friction or do they fasten some how? I
> >> > guess I am going to have to get the book.
> >> >
> >> > "john moorhead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> > news:9KJQb.15949$U%5.112197@attbi_s03...
> >> > > Folks -
> >> > >
> >> > > I've been going over "Table Saw Magic" by Jim Tolpin and have started
> >> > > building some of the jigs in the book. Have any of you built his
> jigs
> or
> >> > > made any mods?
> >> > >
> >> > > He has a "Universal Fence" that everything else attaches to. It is a
> ~6"
> >> > > vertical fence that is cradled on the top of your existing rip fence.
> It
> has
> >> > > a T track and a couple of captive nuts, for attaching other jigs or
> >> > > accesories. I built it yesterday, that's the first step. Next is a
> >> > > vertical sled, which I am building. Toward the end of the book there's
> a
> >> > > raised panel sled that lets RT saw owners work on the right side while
> >> > > keeping the blade vertical. It seems as if these two vertical fence
> jigs
> >> > > could be easily combined.
> >> > >
> >> > > I haven't *used* the two jigs I've built yet, they're still going
> together,
> >> > > but everthing looks promising. In looking at the other jigs in the
> book,
> I
> >> > > am continually going "A-HA!". While I may not be the sharpest tool on
> the
> >> > > bench, I know my kindling and Tolpin has some *really* insightful
> ideas
> and
> >> > > methods in this book.
> >> > >
> >> > > I'd be interested to know if any of you have built his jigs and your
> >> > > feedback.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > John Moorhead
> >> > > Lakeport CA
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >

Sd

Silvan

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

31/01/2004 1:48 AM

Doug Miller wrote:

> All I've ever seen in the paint/stain aisles at either Lowe's or HD is
> Minwax Paste Finishing Wax, never any Johnson's Paste Wax. But I'll look
> again the next time I'm there. Thanks.

I just found some at Lowe's. SWMBO knew just where to look, but damn if I
remember where it was. Some girlie aisle I usually ignore, probably. They
had tons of it (about 20 cans), and it didn't look like it was in any
danger of being discontinued.

If anyone is having trouble coming by a can of the stuff, I can buy it and
mail it. I forget how much it was.

Um.

44690 16 OZ FINE WOOD P 4.74

There you go.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

26/01/2004 4:17 PM

correction: T-9 is made for PMS Products of Michigan. The trademark
Boeshield is licensed to the Boeing Company.

Bay Area Dave wrote:

> T9 is made by Boeshield and isn't for use with an actively used TS top.
> It's fine for storage times. It leaves too much of a film. Use wax
> instead.
>
> dave
>
> Phil wrote:
>
>> 3M makes a product called T9. Supposed to work great. Haven't tried
>> it yet
>> though.
>>
>> "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> What kind of wax should be used to apply to the top of the table saw,
>>> jointer, etc?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Nuttree" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:UESQb.265353$X%5.84477@pd7tw2no...
>>>
>>>> John,
>>>> Are this jigs going to fit over the General (Bessy clone) fence or are
>>
>>
>> you
>>
>>>> replacing it? Do they fit with friction or do they fasten some how? I
>>>> guess I am going to have to get the book.
>>>>
>>>> "john moorhead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:9KJQb.15949$U%5.112197@attbi_s03...
>>>>
>>>>> Folks -
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been going over "Table Saw Magic" by Jim Tolpin and have started
>>>>> building some of the jigs in the book. Have any of you built his
>>
>>
>> jigs
>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>>> made any mods?
>>>>>
>>>>> He has a "Universal Fence" that everything else attaches to. It is a
>>>
>>>
>>> ~6"
>>>
>>>>> vertical fence that is cradled on the top of your existing rip fence.
>>
>>
>> It
>>
>>>> has
>>>>
>>>>> a T track and a couple of captive nuts, for attaching other jigs or
>>>>> accesories. I built it yesterday, that's the first step. Next is a
>>>>> vertical sled, which I am building. Toward the end of the book there's
>>
>>
>> a
>>
>>>>> raised panel sled that lets RT saw owners work on the right side while
>>>>> keeping the blade vertical. It seems as if these two vertical fence
>>>
>>>
>>> jigs
>>>
>>>>> could be easily combined.
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't *used* the two jigs I've built yet, they're still going
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> together,
>>>>
>>>>> but everthing looks promising. In looking at the other jigs in the
>>>
>>>
>>> book,
>>>
>>>> I
>>>>
>>>>> am continually going "A-HA!". While I may not be the sharpest tool on
>>>
>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>>> bench, I know my kindling and Tolpin has some *really* insightful
>>
>>
>> ideas
>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>> methods in this book.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd be interested to know if any of you have built his jigs and your
>>>>> feedback.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John Moorhead
>>>>> Lakeport CA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

26/01/2004 4:15 PM

T9 is made by Boeshield and isn't for use with an actively used TS top.
It's fine for storage times. It leaves too much of a film. Use wax
instead.

dave

Phil wrote:

> 3M makes a product called T9. Supposed to work great. Haven't tried it yet
> though.
>
> "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>What kind of wax should be used to apply to the top of the table saw,
>>jointer, etc?
>>
>>
>>"Nuttree" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:UESQb.265353$X%5.84477@pd7tw2no...
>>
>>>John,
>>>Are this jigs going to fit over the General (Bessy clone) fence or are
>
> you
>
>>>replacing it? Do they fit with friction or do they fasten some how? I
>>>guess I am going to have to get the book.
>>>
>>>"john moorhead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:9KJQb.15949$U%5.112197@attbi_s03...
>>>
>>>>Folks -
>>>>
>>>>I've been going over "Table Saw Magic" by Jim Tolpin and have started
>>>>building some of the jigs in the book. Have any of you built his
>
> jigs
>
>>>or
>>>
>>>>made any mods?
>>>>
>>>>He has a "Universal Fence" that everything else attaches to. It is a
>>
>>~6"
>>
>>>>vertical fence that is cradled on the top of your existing rip fence.
>
> It
>
>>>has
>>>
>>>>a T track and a couple of captive nuts, for attaching other jigs or
>>>>accesories. I built it yesterday, that's the first step. Next is a
>>>>vertical sled, which I am building. Toward the end of the book there's
>
> a
>
>>>>raised panel sled that lets RT saw owners work on the right side while
>>>>keeping the blade vertical. It seems as if these two vertical fence
>>
>>jigs
>>
>>>>could be easily combined.
>>>>
>>>>I haven't *used* the two jigs I've built yet, they're still going
>>>
>>>together,
>>>
>>>>but everthing looks promising. In looking at the other jigs in the
>>
>>book,
>>
>>>I
>>>
>>>>am continually going "A-HA!". While I may not be the sharpest tool on
>>
>>the
>>
>>>>bench, I know my kindling and Tolpin has some *really* insightful
>
> ideas
>
>>>and
>>>
>>>>methods in this book.
>>>>
>>>>I'd be interested to know if any of you have built his jigs and your
>>>>feedback.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>John Moorhead
>>>>Lakeport CA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

MJ

"Mark Jerde"

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

25/01/2004 11:24 PM

Dave wrote:
> What kind of wax should be used to apply to the top of the table saw,
> jointer, etc?

"The exploding kind." No, sorry, that's a line from a "Pink Panther" movie.
<g>

I use Johnson's Paste Wax.

-- Mark

DP

"Dave"

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

25/01/2004 6:05 PM

What kind of wax should be used to apply to the top of the table saw,
jointer, etc?


"Nuttree" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:UESQb.265353$X%5.84477@pd7tw2no...
> John,
> Are this jigs going to fit over the General (Bessy clone) fence or are you
> replacing it? Do they fit with friction or do they fasten some how? I
> guess I am going to have to get the book.
>
> "john moorhead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:9KJQb.15949$U%5.112197@attbi_s03...
> > Folks -
> >
> > I've been going over "Table Saw Magic" by Jim Tolpin and have started
> > building some of the jigs in the book. Have any of you built his jigs
> or
> > made any mods?
> >
> > He has a "Universal Fence" that everything else attaches to. It is a
~6"
> > vertical fence that is cradled on the top of your existing rip fence. It
> has
> > a T track and a couple of captive nuts, for attaching other jigs or
> > accesories. I built it yesterday, that's the first step. Next is a
> > vertical sled, which I am building. Toward the end of the book there's a
> > raised panel sled that lets RT saw owners work on the right side while
> > keeping the blade vertical. It seems as if these two vertical fence
jigs
> > could be easily combined.
> >
> > I haven't *used* the two jigs I've built yet, they're still going
> together,
> > but everthing looks promising. In looking at the other jigs in the
book,
> I
> > am continually going "A-HA!". While I may not be the sharpest tool on
the
> > bench, I know my kindling and Tolpin has some *really* insightful ideas
> and
> > methods in this book.
> >
> > I'd be interested to know if any of you have built his jigs and your
> > feedback.
> >
> >
> > John Moorhead
> > Lakeport CA
> >
> >
>
>

Ng

"Nuttree"

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

25/01/2004 5:02 PM

John,
Are this jigs going to fit over the General (Bessy clone) fence or are you
replacing it? Do they fit with friction or do they fasten some how? I
guess I am going to have to get the book.

"john moorhead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:9KJQb.15949$U%5.112197@attbi_s03...
> Folks -
>
> I've been going over "Table Saw Magic" by Jim Tolpin and have started
> building some of the jigs in the book. Have any of you built his jigs
or
> made any mods?
>
> He has a "Universal Fence" that everything else attaches to. It is a ~6"
> vertical fence that is cradled on the top of your existing rip fence. It
has
> a T track and a couple of captive nuts, for attaching other jigs or
> accesories. I built it yesterday, that's the first step. Next is a
> vertical sled, which I am building. Toward the end of the book there's a
> raised panel sled that lets RT saw owners work on the right side while
> keeping the blade vertical. It seems as if these two vertical fence jigs
> could be easily combined.
>
> I haven't *used* the two jigs I've built yet, they're still going
together,
> but everthing looks promising. In looking at the other jigs in the book,
I
> am continually going "A-HA!". While I may not be the sharpest tool on the
> bench, I know my kindling and Tolpin has some *really* insightful ideas
and
> methods in this book.
>
> I'd be interested to know if any of you have built his jigs and your
> feedback.
>
>
> John Moorhead
> Lakeport CA
>
>

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

31/01/2004 3:25 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Silvan <[email protected]> wrote:
>Doug Miller wrote:
>
>> All I've ever seen in the paint/stain aisles at either Lowe's or HD is
>> Minwax Paste Finishing Wax, never any Johnson's Paste Wax. But I'll look
>> again the next time I'm there. Thanks.
>
>I just found some at Lowe's. SWMBO knew just where to look, but damn if I
>remember where it was. Some girlie aisle I usually ignore, probably. They
>had tons of it (about 20 cans), and it didn't look like it was in any
>danger of being discontinued.
>
>If anyone is having trouble coming by a can of the stuff, I can buy it and
>mail it. I forget how much it was.
>
>Um.
>
>44690 16 OZ FINE WOOD P 4.74
>
>There you go.
>
Thanks -- I'll check on that.

--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?

jm

"john moorhead"

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

26/01/2004 8:03 AM

N -

The universal fence is cradled between the two sides of the bies fence. I
wanted a better way to secure it so I put a barbed threaded insert into a
cleat and then sheet metal screwed the cleats, one in the front and one in
the back, to the bies. I measured off the center point for everything so
that now the fence will mount facing either to the left or right side of the
fence using the same mounting holes. Might be handy for raised panels...

I am putting another piece of wood down the center of the top of the bies
fence, in between the cleats. It has a t track in it so that I can mount and
move my board buddies around. The channel arrangement also gets sheet metal
screwed to the top of the bies. This provides additional support for the
center of the universal fence and makes it easier to shim it square to the
TS table. I'm not one for drilling holes in fences unneccesarily, but I
*really* like where Tolpin is going with his jigs - I've solved problems in
my head with his jigs that I haven't built yet... Did that make sense? You
get the idea...

Several of the auxillary fences that are used with the universal fence work
with a slip fit using UHMW plastic. I may or may not have any left, or I'll
use laminate strips.

Toplin is a big fan of T track, destaco clamps and assorted knobs, hold
downs and the like. I've found the best price for T track at Grizzly - 8
bucks for 36" vs. 13 at woodcraft. For hardware knobs and the like, Grizzly
has better prices too. Harbor freight had a good price on De staco clamps,
but I have also got 'em on ebay at decent price. If you have any surplus
stores in your area, I'd check there....

My only crit of Tolpin's book is that it would have been more convenient to
have an appendix of all his jigs. As is, they pop up in the book according
to the task being taught and so there is some flipping about. The index is
a bit lacking as well. This may be more a point for his editors...

I also have "The Table Saw Book" by Kelly Mehler, and would recommend it,
but I'd still put Tolpin's TSM at the top of the list.

My 02...

John Moorhead
Lakeport CA



"Nuttree" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:UESQb.265353$X%5.84477@pd7tw2no...
> John,
> Are this jigs going to fit over the General (Bessy clone) fence or are you
> replacing it? Do they fit with friction or do they fasten some how? I
> guess I am going to have to get the book.
>
> "john moorhead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:9KJQb.15949$U%5.112197@attbi_s03...
> > Folks -
> >
> > I've been going over "Table Saw Magic" by Jim Tolpin and have started
> > building some of the jigs in the book. Have any of you built his jigs
> or
> > made any mods?
> >
> > He has a "Universal Fence" that everything else attaches to. It is a
~6"
> > vertical fence that is cradled on the top of your existing rip fence. It
> has
> > a T track and a couple of captive nuts, for attaching other jigs or
> > accesories. I built it yesterday, that's the first step. Next is a
> > vertical sled, which I am building. Toward the end of the book there's a
> > raised panel sled that lets RT saw owners work on the right side while
> > keeping the blade vertical. It seems as if these two vertical fence
jigs
> > could be easily combined.
> >
> > I haven't *used* the two jigs I've built yet, they're still going
> together,
> > but everthing looks promising. In looking at the other jigs in the
book,
> I
> > am continually going "A-HA!". While I may not be the sharpest tool on
the
> > bench, I know my kindling and Tolpin has some *really* insightful ideas
> and
> > methods in this book.
> >
> > I'd be interested to know if any of you have built his jigs and your
> > feedback.
> >
> >
> > John Moorhead
> > Lakeport CA
> >
> >
>
>

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"Anthony Diodati"

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

25/01/2004 7:20 AM

I haven't built any, but I know Ian Kirby had a similar raised panel sled
jig in a issue of American Woodworker.
Tony D.
"john moorhead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:9KJQb.15949$U%5.112197@attbi_s03...
> Folks -
>
> I've been going over "Table Saw Magic" by Jim Tolpin and have started
> building some of the jigs in the book. Have any of you built his jigs
or
> made any mods?
>
> He has a "Universal Fence" that everything else attaches to. It is a ~6"
> vertical fence that is cradled on the top of your existing rip fence. It
has
> a T track and a couple of captive nuts, for attaching other jigs or
> accesories. I built it yesterday, that's the first step. Next is a
> vertical sled, which I am building. Toward the end of the book there's a
> raised panel sled that lets RT saw owners work on the right side while
> keeping the blade vertical. It seems as if these two vertical fence jigs
> could be easily combined.
>
> I haven't *used* the two jigs I've built yet, they're still going
together,
> but everthing looks promising. In looking at the other jigs in the book,
I
> am continually going "A-HA!". While I may not be the sharpest tool on the
> bench, I know my kindling and Tolpin has some *really* insightful ideas
and
> methods in this book.
>
> I'd be interested to know if any of you have built his jigs and your
> feedback.
>
>
> John Moorhead
> Lakeport CA
>
>

cC

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

26/01/2004 9:28 AM

[email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
> Well... it's available, yes, but "everywhere" is a substantial exaggeration:
> try finding it at Wal-Mart, for example, or Kroger. Good luck. Ya gotta know
> where to look. Supposedly, Home Depot and Lowe's stock it in some areas of the
> country, but not where I live (Indianapolis). Small hardware stores seem to be
> the best places to look.

Try looking in one of the paint aisles near the stains. I am not
trying to be a wise-ass, I just know that when I asked at my local HD
I was told that they didn't carry it (by several HD drones) but I
finally found it with the stains and varnishes. I have seen it at
every HD that I have looked.

-Chris

RM

"Ron Magen"

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

26/01/2004 11:37 PM

Try looking for 'Butcher's Bowling Alley Wax' . . . yellow & red can

Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop

"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
SNIP
> >
> All I've ever seen in the paint/stain aisles at either Lowe's or HD is
Minwax
> Paste Finishing Wax, never any Johnson's Paste Wax. But I'll look again
the
> next time I'm there. Thanks.
>

mM

[email protected] (MarcColten)

in reply to "Ron Magen" on 26/01/2004 11:37 PM

27/01/2004 1:08 AM

>Try looking for 'Butcher's Bowling Alley Wax' . . . yellow & red can
>

I saw this used in a picture in a woodworking magazine. What surprised me was
that it looked like a half pound can. I thought "bowling alley wax" would be
in huge drums.

tb

terry boivin

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

18/02/2004 7:20 AM

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:05:59 -0500, "Dave" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>What kind of wax should be used to apply to the top of the table saw,
>jointer, etc?
>
>
>"Nuttree" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:UESQb.265353$X%5.84477@pd7tw2no...
>> John,
>> Are this jigs going to fit over the General (Bessy clone) fence or are you
>> replacing it? Do they fit with friction or do they fasten some how? I
>> guess I am going to have to get the book.
>>
>> "john moorhead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:9KJQb.15949$U%5.112197@attbi_s03...
>> > Folks -
>> >
>> > I've been going over "Table Saw Magic" by Jim Tolpin and have started
>> > building some of the jigs in the book. Have any of you built his jigs
>> or
>> > made any mods?
>> >
>> > He has a "Universal Fence" that everything else attaches to. It is a
>~6"
>> > vertical fence that is cradled on the top of your existing rip fence. It
>> has
>> > a T track and a couple of captive nuts, for attaching other jigs or
>> > accesories. I built it yesterday, that's the first step. Next is a
>> > vertical sled, which I am building. Toward the end of the book there's a
>> > raised panel sled that lets RT saw owners work on the right side while
>> > keeping the blade vertical. It seems as if these two vertical fence
>jigs
>> > could be easily combined.
>> >
>> > I haven't *used* the two jigs I've built yet, they're still going
>> together,
>> > but everthing looks promising. In looking at the other jigs in the
>book,
>> I
>> > am continually going "A-HA!". While I may not be the sharpest tool on
>the
>> > bench, I know my kindling and Tolpin has some *really* insightful ideas
>> and
>> > methods in this book.
>> >
>> > I'd be interested to know if any of you have built his jigs and your
>> > feedback.
>> >
>> >
>> > John Moorhead
>> > Lakeport CA
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
I've always used butcher's wax. Same stuff I use for wood to wood
drawer and table slide runners. Rub it on and buff it out.

LK

Larry Kraus

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

26/01/2004 2:35 AM

The auxiliary rip fence is also in the current Popular Woodworking
(Feb '04). It fits on top of a Bessy clone, and is bolted to the flat
top of he fence. There is a picture of the jig with the rip fence
sled here:
http://www.popularwoodworking.com/images/features/tolpintwo.jpg
The main jig is the shorter L shaped piece on top of the fence. The
sled is the tall piece in front; it hooks over and slides along the
auxiliary fence. The book shows many other attachments and uses for
the basic fence.



"Nuttree" <[email protected]> wrote:

>John,
>Are this jigs going to fit over the General (Bessy clone) fence or are you
>replacing it? Do they fit with friction or do they fasten some how? I
>guess I am going to have to get the book.

TK

Todd Keaffaber

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

31/01/2004 1:47 PM

[email protected] (Doug Miller) writes:

> In article <[email protected]>, Silvan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Doug Miller wrote:
>>
>>> All I've ever seen in the paint/stain aisles at either Lowe's or HD is
>>> Minwax Paste Finishing Wax, never any Johnson's Paste Wax. But I'll look
>>> again the next time I'm there. Thanks.
>>
>>I just found some at Lowe's. SWMBO knew just where to look, but damn if I
>>remember where it was. Some girlie aisle I usually ignore, probably. They
>>had tons of it (about 20 cans), and it didn't look like it was in any
>>danger of being discontinued.
>>
>>If anyone is having trouble coming by a can of the stuff, I can buy it and
>>mail it. I forget how much it was.
>>
>>Um.
>>
>>44690 16 OZ FINE WOOD P 4.74
>>
>>There you go.
>>
> Thanks -- I'll check on that.
>
> --
> Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
>
> How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?

I actually found Johnson's Paste Wax in a grocery store. It was a
Jewel or a Dominick's - I dont remember exactly which one. It was in
the cleaning aisle. (I live 60 miles west of Chicago.)

Todd

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

27/01/2004 12:27 AM

On 26 Jan 2004 09:28:05 -0800, [email protected] (Chris)
wrote:

>[email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>> Well... it's available, yes, but "everywhere" is a substantial exaggeration:
>> try finding it at Wal-Mart, for example, or Kroger. Good luck. Ya gotta know
>> where to look. Supposedly, Home Depot and Lowe's stock it in some areas of the
>> country, but not where I live (Indianapolis). Small hardware stores seem to be
>> the best places to look.
>
>Try looking in one of the paint aisles near the stains. I am not
>trying to be a wise-ass, I just know that when I asked at my local HD
>I was told that they didn't carry it (by several HD drones) but I
>finally found it with the stains and varnishes. I have seen it at
>every HD that I have looked.
>
>-Chris


Stores put in strange places. I've found it in the paint section at
Lowes and WalMart. And in the cleaning section at Home Depot and
several grocery stores. A can of it lasts me about 5 years.

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

26/01/2004 5:42 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Chris) wrote:
>[email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> wrote:
>> Well... it's available, yes, but "everywhere" is a substantial exaggeration:
>> try finding it at Wal-Mart, for example, or Kroger. Good luck. Ya gotta know
>> where to look. Supposedly, Home Depot and Lowe's stock it in some areas of
> the
>> country, but not where I live (Indianapolis). Small hardware stores seem to
> be
>> the best places to look.
>
>Try looking in one of the paint aisles near the stains. I am not
>trying to be a wise-ass, I just know that when I asked at my local HD
>I was told that they didn't carry it (by several HD drones) but I
>finally found it with the stains and varnishes. I have seen it at
>every HD that I have looked.
>
All I've ever seen in the paint/stain aisles at either Lowe's or HD is Minwax
Paste Finishing Wax, never any Johnson's Paste Wax. But I'll look again the
next time I'm there. Thanks.

--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

25/01/2004 11:35 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote:
>What kind of wax should be used to apply to the top of the table saw,
>jointer, etc?
>
Any paste wax that does not contain silicone (which causes problems with
finishes). Avoid automobile waxes for this reason.

Johnson's Paste Wax and Minwax Paste Finishing Wax do not contain silicone. I
believe there are others, also -- DAGS (do a Google search) on this newsgroup,
and you'll probably find the names of one or two other silicone-free brands.

--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

26/01/2004 1:36 AM

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:05:59 -0500, "Dave" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>What kind of wax should be used to apply to the top of the table saw,
>jointer, etc?
>
>

I have been using Johnson's Paste wax for years. Pay no attention to
the rumor that this product is discontinued. Available everywhere in
the US.

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "john moorhead" on 25/01/2004 6:53 AM

31/01/2004 3:25 PM

In article <310120040918009924%[email protected]>, Allen Epps <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, Silvan
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Doug Miller wrote:
>>
>> > All I've ever seen in the paint/stain aisles at either Lowe's or HD is
>> > Minwax Paste Finishing Wax, never any Johnson's Paste Wax. But I'll look
>> > again the next time I'm there. Thanks.
>>
>I found it in the cleaning supplies aisle, not the finishing aisle.
>
I looked there *first*! :-( I see you're in MD. Must be a regional kinda
thing. None of the Borgs in Indianapolis seem to have it anywhere.

--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?


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