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Old Nick

15/06/2004 11:07 AM

Sources for carbide chain in the US?

I am trying to get some carbide chain from the US. In Oz it costs a
fortune, even taking shipping, conversion and tax into account. for
instance, to buy a couple of TCT chains from the US, and also a couple
of "Carbide impregnated" ones, will cost me $450 delivered, in $Aud.
To buy in Oz would cost Aud$750. If you see my point.

I found one place (Baileys) that deals in Rapco chain. Baileys say
Rapco do not make a chain in carbide to suit my smaller saw (Husky
136, and probably known as Low Profile) but I know it can be had.

Rapco's site (rapcoindustries.com) seems dead.

Tilton Online sell only in the US. They did not get as far as
indicating whether they had suitable chain, but in any case are only
dealers for Rapco.

There was one other mob I emailed. They dealt with rescue chain. And
yet another that cost as much as Oz anyway.

So does anyone know anyone other than Rapco that deals in TCT chain
for wood purposes?

Thanks for any help.

*******************************************************

Sometimes in a workplace you find snot on the wall of
the toilet cubicles. You feel "What sort of twisted
child would do this?"....the internet seems full of
them. It's very sad


This topic has 16 replies

dA

[email protected] (Andy Dingley)

in reply to Old Nick on 15/06/2004 11:07 AM

15/06/2004 3:38 AM

Old Nick <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I am trying to get some carbide chain from the US. In Oz it costs a
> fortune,

Can't speak for the US, but the stuff's an insane price in the UK too.
Chain for a Mafell morticer (small end of timber framing) is about
£500 ($750 US)

DH

Dave Hinz

in reply to Old Nick on 15/06/2004 11:07 AM

15/06/2004 3:14 PM

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:07:41 +0800, Old Nick <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am trying to get some carbide chain from the US. In Oz it costs a
> fortune, even taking shipping, conversion and tax into account. for
> instance, to buy a couple of TCT chains from the US, and also a couple
> of "Carbide impregnated" ones, will cost me $450 delivered, in $Aud.
> To buy in Oz would cost Aud$750. If you see my point.

Check with your local fire department. Carbide chain is very useful
for ventilating roofs & various other stuff we get to play with. There
is the standard tooth profile you're probably expecting (with no ramps
between, so it's VERY aggressive and will kick back something awful),
and there's also a "bullet" profile that, well, has to be seen to
be understood but it cuts very nicely and deals with nails better.

I'm sure your local-ish fire department uses 'em, find out their source.

Dave Hinz

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Old Nick

in reply to Old Nick on 15/06/2004 11:07 AM

17/06/2004 10:40 AM

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 02:03:36 GMT, "FMB" <[email protected]> vaguely
proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

>"Old Nick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 11:12:56 GMT, "FMB" <[email protected]> vaguely
><snip>>
>> The trouble with fire-aimed stuff is it's not meant for wood. I should
>> have explained.
>>
><snip>
>Give im a shot at it. The chain he sold us slices through roofs like a hot
>knife through butter. Wood roofs.

OK. I will. Be interesting. Thanks.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Old Nick on 15/06/2004 11:07 AM

15/06/2004 1:17 AM

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:07:41 +0800, Old Nick <[email protected]>
calmly ranted:

>I am trying to get some carbide chain from the US. In Oz it costs a

I forgot to ask what your local firemen said (don't they use it?),
or what Husky shops said about finding it for you.

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Old Nick

in reply to Old Nick on 15/06/2004 11:07 AM

16/06/2004 10:45 AM

On 15 Jun 2004 15:14:50 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> vaguely
proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

I've seen the stuff for rescue work. I was after wood cutting stuff. I
saw the bullet profile. It certainly is interesting shape.

>Check with your local fire department. Carbide chain is very useful
>for ventilating roofs & various other stuff we get to play with. There
>is the standard tooth profile you're probably expecting (with no ramps
>between, so it's VERY aggressive and will kick back something awful),
>and there's also a "bullet" profile that, well, has to be seen to
>be understood but it cuts very nicely and deals with nails better.
>
>I'm sure your local-ish fire department uses 'em, find out their source.
>
>Dave Hinz
>

FF

"FMB"

in reply to Old Nick on 15/06/2004 11:07 AM

16/06/2004 11:12 AM

"Old Nick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am trying to get some carbide chain from the US. In Oz it costs a
> fortune, even taking shipping, conversion and tax into account. for
> instance, to buy a couple of TCT chains from the US, and also a couple
> of "Carbide impregnated" ones, will cost me $450 delivered, in $Aud.
> To buy in Oz would cost Aud$750. If you see my point.
>
> I found one place (Baileys) that deals in Rapco chain. Baileys say
> Rapco do not make a chain in carbide to suit my smaller saw (Husky
> 136, and probably known as Low Profile) but I know it can be had.
>
> Rapco's site (rapcoindustries.com) seems dead.
>
> Tilton Online sell only in the US. They did not get as far as
> indicating whether they had suitable chain, but in any case are only
> dealers for Rapco.
>
> There was one other mob I emailed. They dealt with rescue chain. And
> yet another that cost as much as Oz anyway.
>
> So does anyone know anyone other than Rapco that deals in TCT chain
> for wood purposes?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> *******************************************************
>
> Sometimes in a workplace you find snot on the wall of
> the toilet cubicles. You feel "What sort of twisted
> child would do this?"....the internet seems full of
> them. It's very sad

You might want to try a large Fire Equipment Company, they have lots of
products and contacts in the industry. A salesman I use at L N Curtis and
Sons, in Oakland, CA, is Ken McNair [email protected] . (make the ending
of that "com" to make it work for you and not the Bots) He would be a good
source of info, if not the chain itself.

I'm not sure of their export policy. I have no affiliation with L N Curtis
& Sons, just a very satisfied customer. If he askes who refered you to him,
tell him 'FireManBob'.
--

FMB
(only one B in FMB)

FF

"FMB"

in reply to Old Nick on 15/06/2004 11:07 AM

17/06/2004 2:03 AM

"Old Nick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 11:12:56 GMT, "FMB" <[email protected]> vaguely
<snip>>
> The trouble with fire-aimed stuff is it's not meant for wood. I should
> have explained.
>
<snip>
Give im a shot at it. The chain he sold us slices through roofs like a hot
knife through butter. Wood roofs.

--

FMB
(only one B in FMB)


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Old Nick

in reply to Old Nick on 15/06/2004 11:07 AM

16/06/2004 10:43 AM

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 01:17:12 -0700, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

No they don't use it. Husqvarna don't seem interested. Stihl Aust did
not reply at all. As I said, local $$ are extreme.

>>I am trying to get some carbide chain from the US. In Oz it costs a
>
>I forgot to ask what your local firemen said (don't they use it?),
>or what Husky shops said about finding it for you.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Old Nick on 15/06/2004 11:07 AM

15/06/2004 1:12 AM

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:07:41 +0800, Old Nick <[email protected]>
calmly ranted:

>I am trying to get some carbide chain from the US. In Oz it costs a
>fortune, even taking shipping, conversion and tax into account. for
>instance, to buy a couple of TCT chains from the US, and also a couple
>of "Carbide impregnated" ones, will cost me $450 delivered, in $Aud.
>To buy in Oz would cost Aud$750. If you see my point.
>
>I found one place (Baileys) that deals in Rapco chain. Baileys say
>Rapco do not make a chain in carbide to suit my smaller saw (Husky
>136, and probably known as Low Profile) but I know it can be had.

Oh, Bailey's. You must mean CHAIN SAW chain.
Try this, Nick.

http://www.google.com/search?q=chain+saw+chain+carbide


>Sometimes in a workplace you find snot on the wall of
>the toilet cubicles. You feel "What sort of twisted
>child would do this?"....the internet seems full of
>them. It's very sad

And ya might change your sig, ya snotty sot.

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Old Nick

in reply to Old Nick on 15/06/2004 11:07 AM

16/06/2004 10:49 AM

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 18:22:02 -0400, "John McGaw" <[email protected]>
vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

>Have you considered adapting your saw to the chain at hand? My Stihl 029 had
>a 20" bar with some sort of oddly pitched chain that may well be the same
>thing that your Husky uses and like you wrote chains were pretty scarce. I
>found it easiest to swap my bar for an 18" and the drive sprocket to match
>3/8" pitch chain.


That will be my next step, if I am completely foxed. I am going back
to Baileys (if and when bother to reply again) and ask them about it.
The problem is not the 20" Husky, but the smaller one (14"). Although
it's 3/8", it has a smaller profile tooth and drive sprocket, and I am
not sure if they make the stuff with the right tooth for smaller saws.

I have learnt that 3/8" pitch .050 chain ain't 3/8" pitch .050 chain
:-<

>After I did that Bailey's was glad to sell me loops of
>their carbide-loaded chain and they work a treat for dirty logs. I'd really
>like to have carbide chain but even given those cheap USA prices you write
>about they are far too rich for my blood.


The wood I am cutting just kills ordinary chain. I already have a 20"
TCT chain, and it's magic.

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Old Nick

in reply to Old Nick on 15/06/2004 11:07 AM

16/06/2004 10:42 AM

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 01:12:50 -0700, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

Yep. Sorry. What would you use carbide chain for? <G>

>Oh, Bailey's. You must mean CHAIN SAW chain.
>Try this, Nick.
>
>http://www.google.com/search?q=chain+saw+chain+carbide

ummm...done that, and TCT and tungsten and sawchain and "saw chain"
etc etc....the trouble is finding someone who has TCT chain that fits,
and who will export. I've contacted three co's so far.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Old Nick on 15/06/2004 11:07 AM

16/06/2004 5:49 PM

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 10:42:15 +0800, Old Nick <[email protected]>
calmly ranted:

>On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 01:12:50 -0700, Larry Jaques
><novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> vaguely proposed a theory
>......and in reply I say!:
> remove ns from my header address to reply via email
>
>Yep. Sorry. What would you use carbide chain for? <G>

I thought maybe it was some high-falutin' rigger's chain
or sumpin'.


>>Oh, Bailey's. You must mean CHAIN SAW chain.
>>Try this, Nick.
>>
>>http://www.google.com/search?q=chain+saw+chain+carbide
>
>ummm...done that, and TCT and tungsten and sawchain and "saw chain"
>etc etc....the trouble is finding someone who has TCT chain that fits,
>and who will export. I've contacted three co's so far.

Try finding someone from the (Wreck or Metalhead) group who
lives near your favorite dealer, send vast amounts of greenback
to them, and let them export it to you if the company won't.

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Don't forget the 7 P's:
Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss-Poor Performance
----------------------------------------------------
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Old Nick

in reply to Old Nick on 15/06/2004 11:07 AM

17/06/2004 8:48 AM

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 11:12:56 GMT, "FMB" <[email protected]> vaguely
proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

I may take up that option.

At the moment I am still trying to get replies and sense out of a
couple of other places.

The trouble with fire-aimed stuff is it's not meant for wood. I should
have explained.

>You might want to try a large Fire Equipment Company, they have lots of
>products and contacts in the industry. A salesman I use at L N Curtis and
>Sons, in Oakland, CA, is Ken McNair [email protected] . (make the ending
>of that "com" to make it work for you and not the Bots) He would be a good
>source of info, if not the chain itself.
>
>I'm not sure of their export policy. I have no affiliation with L N Curtis
>& Sons, just a very satisfied customer. If he askes who refered you to him,
>tell him 'FireManBob'.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Old Nick on 15/06/2004 11:07 AM

17/06/2004 8:41 PM

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 10:39:48 +0800, Old Nick <[email protected]>
calmly ranted:

>On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 17:49:41 -0700, Larry Jaques
>>I thought maybe it was some high-falutin' rigger's chain
>>or sumpin'.
>
>Yeah. I do realise I should have been more specific.

And spelling it "carnide" on RCM didn't help, either. ;)


>>Try finding someone from the (Wreck or Metalhead) group who
>>lives near your favorite dealer, send vast amounts of greenback
>>to them, and let them export it to you if the company won't.
>
>That will be my next attempt. I am still awaiting a few replies from
>suppliers.

G'luck!


>HAH! I'll probably pay for all this, and then chainsaw chain will
>become a WMD (which it is, but not for terror purposes <G>) or
>something, and export wil be banned.

Well, if a 9" sharpened pencil -isn't- a weapon and a 1" pocket
knife _is_ a regulated weapon nowadays, WhoTF knows?

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"John McGaw"

in reply to Old Nick on 15/06/2004 11:07 AM

15/06/2004 6:22 PM

"Old Nick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
snip...
>
> I found one place (Baileys) that deals in Rapco chain. Baileys say
> Rapco do not make a chain in carbide to suit my smaller saw (Husky
> 136, and probably known as Low Profile) but I know it can be had.
snip...

Have you considered adapting your saw to the chain at hand? My Stihl 029 had
a 20" bar with some sort of oddly pitched chain that may well be the same
thing that your Husky uses and like you wrote chains were pretty scarce. I
found it easiest to swap my bar for an 18" and the drive sprocket to match
3/8" pitch chain. After I did that Bailey's was glad to sell me loops of
their carbide-loaded chain and they work a treat for dirty logs. I'd really
like to have carbide chain but even given those cheap USA prices you write
about they are far too rich for my blood.
--
John McGaw
[Knoxville, TN, USA]
http://johnmcgaw.com

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Old Nick

in reply to Old Nick on 15/06/2004 11:07 AM

17/06/2004 10:39 AM

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 17:49:41 -0700, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

>On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 10:42:15 +0800, Old Nick <[email protected]>
>calmly ranted:
>
>>On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 01:12:50 -0700, Larry Jaques
>><novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> vaguely proposed a theory
>>......and in reply I say!:
>> remove ns from my header address to reply via email
>>
>>Yep. Sorry. What would you use carbide chain for? <G>
>
>I thought maybe it was some high-falutin' rigger's chain
>or sumpin'.

Yeah. I do realise I should have been more specific.

>Try finding someone from the (Wreck or Metalhead) group who
>lives near your favorite dealer, send vast amounts of greenback
>to them, and let them export it to you if the company won't.

That will be my next attempt. I am still awaiting a few replies from
suppliers.

HAH! I'll probably pay for all this, and then chainsaw chain will
become a WMD (which it is, but not for terror purposes <G>) or
something, and export wil be banned.


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