RS

Rick Stein

08/12/2003 2:03 PM

serious iron-big jointer

I found this on ebay. I'm not the seller, and have othing to do with it.
But I figured you guys would find this jointer interesting . . . It
clearly puts to rest the perpetual rec.ww question about which jointer
you should buy! Forget the puny little 6, 8", and even 12" jointers.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2579938883&category=11810


This topic has 12 replies

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to Rick Stein on 08/12/2003 2:03 PM

09/12/2003 3:46 PM

I suspect the folks over at OSHA had a small part in those
labels.


Roy Smith wrote:

> I count 6 "Warning" labels in that picture. I'd love to know what they
> say. I can only guess:

KC

Kevin Craig

in reply to Rick Stein on 08/12/2003 2:03 PM

08/12/2003 2:24 PM

In article <ax%[email protected]>, Rick Stein
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I found this on ebay. I'm not the seller, and have othing to do with it.
> But I figured you guys would find this jointer interesting . . . It
> clearly puts to rest the perpetual rec.ww question about which jointer
> you should buy! Forget the puny little 6, 8", and even 12" jointers.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2579938883&category=11810
>

And here I thought I was overboard for wanting a 16" Oliver!

Holy moly!

Kevin

rD

[email protected] (Dick Latshaw)

in reply to Rick Stein on 08/12/2003 2:03 PM

09/12/2003 1:11 PM

Pat Barber <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> That's an old one... If you really want big iron,
> visit these folks who still are selling "Big Iron"...
>
> http://www.northfieldwoodworking.com/jointers/heavy.htm
>
> (Note the weights)
>
> You will want to bring your check book...

Back in the early 70's, I took a cabinet making class at a tech school
in Huntsville, AL. They had a Northfield bandsaw - 36 inch I believe.
What a marvelous piece of machinery - no vibration at all.

bb

in reply to Rick Stein on 08/12/2003 2:03 PM

09/12/2003 8:55 PM

Here's the really hilarious part of the listing:

"The seller ended this listing early because the item was lost or broken."

How do you lose something like that? "Where the hell did I leave my 30" jointer..."






Rick Stein <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<ax%[email protected]>...
> I found this on ebay. I'm not the seller, and have othing to do with it.
> But I figured you guys would find this jointer interesting . . . It
> clearly puts to rest the perpetual rec.ww question about which jointer
> you should buy! Forget the puny little 6, 8", and even 12" jointers.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2579938883&category=11810

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Rick Stein on 08/12/2003 2:03 PM

08/12/2003 2:12 PM

In article <ax%[email protected]>, Rick Stein <[email protected]> wrote:
>I found this on ebay. I'm not the seller, and have othing to do with it.
>But I figured you guys would find this jointer interesting . . . It
>clearly puts to rest the perpetual rec.ww question about which jointer
>you should buy! Forget the puny little 6, 8", and even 12" jointers.
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2579938883&category=11810
>
Holy Toledo! That is one humongous jointer! I wonder how much it weighs?

--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to Rick Stein on 08/12/2003 2:03 PM

08/12/2003 9:43 PM

That's an old one... If you really want big iron,
visit these folks who still are selling "Big Iron"...

http://www.northfieldwoodworking.com/jointers/heavy.htm

(Note the weights)

You will want to bring your check book...



Dave Fleming wrote:

>>I found this on ebay. I'm not the seller, and have othing to do with it.
>>But I figured you guys would find this jointer interesting . . . It
>>clearly puts to rest the perpetual rec.ww question about which jointer
>>you should buy! Forget the puny little 6, 8", and even 12" jointers.
>>
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2579938883&category=11810
>
> Many old boat yards out here on the Left Coast had jointers like that.
> We called them ***facers***. Most were equipped with a power feed
> with knurled wheels and driven by a electric motor to chain drive. It
> was rare to get ready milled lumber ie: S2S1E, in those days. Most all
> was rough sawn and in thick slabs or timbers. A facer would be used to
> get one good surface before putting through the planer usually a 36
> incher. Then the S2S piece would be resawn on a bandsaor and the final
> milling to size would be done. Favourite machine was an ORTON
> traveling bed planer. It had a 'rack' or fixture to hold S2S1E stock
> on edge for feeding through the planer to put the finished edge on the
> other side of the boards or planks. One yard had a railroad siding
> within the gates and when lumber was ordered it would come in on a
> flat car from mills and be stacked according to thickness and length.
> The next couple of days were spent milling a portion of that load into
> the most common sizes.
> "Killer" swing saw to cut to rough length, facer, planer, resaw,
> Orton, stack. Sweepers filling burlap sacks with the chips and sawdust
> as fast as they could. That was sold to make sawdust for butchershops,
> saloons etc..
> Tales of a Boatbuilder Apprentice
> http://pages.sbcglobal.net/djf3rd/

DB

"David Babcock"

in reply to Rick Stein on 08/12/2003 2:03 PM

10/12/2003 1:11 AM

No vibration in the saw, but the school shook terribly

Dave

"Dick Latshaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Pat Barber <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > That's an old one... If you really want big iron,
> > visit these folks who still are selling "Big Iron"...
> >
> > http://www.northfieldwoodworking.com/jointers/heavy.htm
> >
> > (Note the weights)
> >
> > You will want to bring your check book...
>
> Back in the early 70's, I took a cabinet making class at a tech school
> in Huntsville, AL. They had a Northfield bandsaw - 36 inch I believe.
> What a marvelous piece of machinery - no vibration at all.

JP

Jay Pique

in reply to Rick Stein on 08/12/2003 2:03 PM

09/12/2003 8:44 AM

On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 21:46:03 -0500, Roy Smith <[email protected]> wrote:


>I count 6 "Warning" labels in that picture. I'd love to know what they
>say. I can only guess:

"Push-sticks recommended."

>Warning: Do not stick hands into spinning blades while machine is turned
>on.
>
>Warning: This machine is heavy. Picking up machine without help may
>result in serious back injury.
>
>Caution: Do not remove safety guards. Yes, that includes the red hinged
>spring-loaded sheet metal one that covers up the 16" long razor sharp
>carbide blades spinning at 3600 RPM driven by an electric motor so big
>you had to have the utility company run a special feed for your shop.
>
>Danger: Do not let children play with this machine.
>
>Warning: Use of this machine while intoxicated may result in the removal
>of bodily parts.
>
>Danger: This machine is capable of carving off a 1/4" slice of hard
>maple 16 inches wide. You don't think it would even slow down if you
>stuck your fingers in the blades, do you?

DF

Dave Fleming <>

in reply to Rick Stein on 08/12/2003 2:03 PM

08/12/2003 10:03 AM

>I found this on ebay. I'm not the seller, and have othing to do with it.
>But I figured you guys would find this jointer interesting . . . It
>clearly puts to rest the perpetual rec.ww question about which jointer
>you should buy! Forget the puny little 6, 8", and even 12" jointers.
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2579938883&category=11810
Many old boat yards out here on the Left Coast had jointers like that.
We called them ***facers***. Most were equipped with a power feed
with knurled wheels and driven by a electric motor to chain drive. It
was rare to get ready milled lumber ie: S2S1E, in those days. Most all
was rough sawn and in thick slabs or timbers. A facer would be used to
get one good surface before putting through the planer usually a 36
incher. Then the S2S piece would be resawn on a bandsaor and the final
milling to size would be done. Favourite machine was an ORTON
traveling bed planer. It had a 'rack' or fixture to hold S2S1E stock
on edge for feeding through the planer to put the finished edge on the
other side of the boards or planks. One yard had a railroad siding
within the gates and when lumber was ordered it would come in on a
flat car from mills and be stacked according to thickness and length.
The next couple of days were spent milling a portion of that load into
the most common sizes.
"Killer" swing saw to cut to rough length, facer, planer, resaw,
Orton, stack. Sweepers filling burlap sacks with the chips and sawdust
as fast as they could. That was sold to make sawdust for butchershops,
saloons etc..
Tales of a Boatbuilder Apprentice
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/djf3rd/

DF

Dave Fleming <>

in reply to Rick Stein on 08/12/2003 2:03 PM

08/12/2003 7:36 PM

<snip>
>
>I count 6 "Warning" labels in that picture. I'd love to know what they
>say. I can only guess:
Not surprising after the demise of several 'big arhn' makers here in
the US..
Oliver was sunk by lawsuits from 3rd. or 4th. or 14th owners of their
machinery because of supposed tampering or altering the machines or
removing safety devices or removing the safety warnings.



Tales of a Boatbuilder Apprentice
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/djf3rd/

RS

Roy Smith

in reply to Rick Stein on 08/12/2003 2:03 PM

08/12/2003 9:46 PM

Pat Barber <[email protected]> wrote:

> That's an old one... If you really want big iron,
> visit these folks who still are selling "Big Iron"...
>
> http://www.northfieldwoodworking.com/jointers/heavy.htm
>
> (Note the weights)

I count 6 "Warning" labels in that picture. I'd love to know what they
say. I can only guess:

Warning: Do not stick hands into spinning blades while machine is turned
on.

Warning: This machine is heavy. Picking up machine without help may
result in serious back injury.

Caution: Do not remove safety guards. Yes, that includes the red hinged
spring-loaded sheet metal one that covers up the 16" long razor sharp
carbide blades spinning at 3600 RPM driven by an electric motor so big
you had to have the utility company run a special feed for your shop.

Danger: Do not let children play with this machine.

Warning: Use of this machine while intoxicated may result in the removal
of bodily parts.

Danger: This machine is capable of carving off a 1/4" slice of hard
maple 16 inches wide. You don't think it would even slow down if you
stuck your fingers in the blades, do you?

MO

"My Old Tools"

in reply to Rick Stein on 08/12/2003 2:03 PM

08/12/2003 8:28 PM

Got one, 16". Loaded it on the trailer with 2 helpers, one weighed 140 #
and the other was 74 years old. I didn't believe it could be done, but the
old man said no problem. The tables weigh about 600 each. After those were
off, the rest was cake.

--
Ross
www.myoldtools.com
"Pat Barber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> That's an old one... If you really want big iron,
> visit these folks who still are selling "Big Iron"...
>
> http://www.northfieldwoodworking.com/jointers/heavy.htm
>
> (Note the weights)
>
> You will want to bring your check book...
>
>
>
> Dave Fleming wrote:
>
> >>I found this on ebay. I'm not the seller, and have othing to do with it.
> >>But I figured you guys would find this jointer interesting . . . It
> >>clearly puts to rest the perpetual rec.ww question about which jointer
> >>you should buy! Forget the puny little 6, 8", and even 12" jointers.
> >>
>
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2579938883&category=118
10
> >
> > Many old boat yards out here on the Left Coast had jointers like that.
> > We called them ***facers***. Most were equipped with a power feed
> > with knurled wheels and driven by a electric motor to chain drive. It
> > was rare to get ready milled lumber ie: S2S1E, in those days. Most all
> > was rough sawn and in thick slabs or timbers. A facer would be used to
> > get one good surface before putting through the planer usually a 36
> > incher. Then the S2S piece would be resawn on a bandsaor and the final
> > milling to size would be done. Favourite machine was an ORTON
> > traveling bed planer. It had a 'rack' or fixture to hold S2S1E stock
> > on edge for feeding through the planer to put the finished edge on the
> > other side of the boards or planks. One yard had a railroad siding
> > within the gates and when lumber was ordered it would come in on a
> > flat car from mills and be stacked according to thickness and length.
> > The next couple of days were spent milling a portion of that load into
> > the most common sizes.
> > "Killer" swing saw to cut to rough length, facer, planer, resaw,
> > Orton, stack. Sweepers filling burlap sacks with the chips and sawdust
> > as fast as they could. That was sold to make sawdust for butchershops,
> > saloons etc..
> > Tales of a Boatbuilder Apprentice
> > http://pages.sbcglobal.net/djf3rd/
>


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