Hi all,
I have some problems with my english vocabulary so I need to make some
First:
Is it "gas oven" or "gas range" the english (american) name for the device
that is used for coooking dinner in the kitchen? I mean the device that have
integrated a cooktop and a oven. Such device comes in two variants: it is
one that is called "freestanding" 'cause it stands on his own feets, and the
second variant is supposed to be attached to the kitchen cabinets 'cause it
does not have any legs. Which is the american english name for this
"attacheable gas oven"?
My problem is the following: I'm constructing my own kitchen cabinets and I
bought an "attacheable gas oven". I'm looking for instructions on how to
attach the device to the holding cabinet. The user guide included in the
device specifies the size of the clearings for the holding cabinet but does
not tell anything if I need to protect the internal walls of the cabinets
with something thermal. My fear is the device contains an oven. May be the
hot oven can cause a fire on the cabinet? The cabinets are made of
particleboard and painted with oil-based enamel. The instructions from the
fabricant specifies a clearing of 40 millimetres from both sides of the oven
wich has ventilation openings on both sides but no more.
Then I'm looking for some tricks on how do the job, but I'm not capable of
select the correct english keywords. I've been googling for images with "gas
oven" or "gas range" keywords and all the results I get are the freestanding
versions, not the attaceable ones...
So any hint on the correct keywords, or in how the attach such a device to
the cabinet is welcomed
Thanks in advance
Sammy
If it was me, I'd be in touch either with the company that sold me the
oven/stove/range, or the company that made it.
Clint
"SammyBar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi all,
>
> I have some problems with my english vocabulary so I need to make some
> First:
> Is it "gas oven" or "gas range" the english (american) name for the device
> that is used for coooking dinner in the kitchen? I mean the device that
> have integrated a cooktop and a oven. Such device comes in two variants:
> it is one that is called "freestanding" 'cause it stands on his own feets,
> and the second variant is supposed to be attached to the kitchen cabinets
> 'cause it does not have any legs. Which is the american english name for
> this "attacheable gas oven"?
> My problem is the following: I'm constructing my own kitchen cabinets and
> I bought an "attacheable gas oven". I'm looking for instructions on how to
> attach the device to the holding cabinet. The user guide included in the
> device specifies the size of the clearings for the holding cabinet but
> does not tell anything if I need to protect the internal walls of the
> cabinets with something thermal. My fear is the device contains an oven.
> May be the hot oven can cause a fire on the cabinet? The cabinets are made
> of particleboard and painted with oil-based enamel. The instructions from
> the fabricant specifies a clearing of 40 millimetres from both sides of
> the oven wich has ventilation openings on both sides but no more.
> Then I'm looking for some tricks on how do the job, but I'm not capable of
> select the correct english keywords. I've been googling for images with
> "gas oven" or "gas range" keywords and all the results I get are the
> freestanding versions, not the attaceable ones...
>
> So any hint on the correct keywords, or in how the attach such a device to
> the cabinet is welcomed
> Thanks in advance
>
> Sammy
>
SammyBar wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have some problems with my english vocabulary so I need to make some
> First:
> Is it "gas oven" or "gas range" the english (american) name for the device
> that is used for coooking dinner in the kitchen? I mean the device that have
> integrated a cooktop and a oven. Such device comes in two variants: it is
> one that is called "freestanding" 'cause it stands on his own feets, and the
> second variant is supposed to be attached to the kitchen cabinets 'cause it
> does not have any legs. Which is the american english name for this
> "attacheable gas oven"?
> My problem is the following: I'm constructing my own kitchen cabinets and I
> bought an "attacheable gas oven". I'm looking for instructions on how to
> attach the device to the holding cabinet. The user guide included in the
> device specifies the size of the clearings for the holding cabinet but does
> not tell anything if I need to protect the internal walls of the cabinets
> with something thermal. My fear is the device contains an oven. May be the
> hot oven can cause a fire on the cabinet? The cabinets are made of
> particleboard and painted with oil-based enamel. The instructions from the
> fabricant specifies a clearing of 40 millimetres from both sides of the oven
> wich has ventilation openings on both sides but no more.
> Then I'm looking for some tricks on how do the job, but I'm not capable of
> select the correct english keywords. I've been googling for images with "gas
> oven" or "gas range" keywords and all the results I get are the freestanding
> versions, not the attaceable ones...
>
> So any hint on the correct keywords, or in how the attach such a device to
> the cabinet is welcomed
> Thanks in advance
>
> Sammy
First off, I have to compliment you on your English. It is a much
better than any other language that I speak -- or most American speak
as a second language.
Second, I want to make sure that we are talking about the same things.
Check out this:
http://images.google.com/images?q=%22built+in+oven%22&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images
Third, are you instructions complete. If so, you are probably okay.
Finally, sheetrock (gypsum) make a pretty good fireproofing. You could
install some inside the cabinet opening, but if the instructions are
complete, you're probably okay.
Pat.
Pat wrote:
> SammyBar wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have some problems with my english vocabulary so I need to make some
> > First:
> > Is it "gas oven" or "gas range" the english (american) name for the device
> > that is used for coooking dinner in the kitchen? I mean the device that have
> > integrated a cooktop and a oven. Such device comes in two variants: it is
> > one that is called "freestanding" 'cause it stands on his own feets, and the
> > second variant is supposed to be attached to the kitchen cabinets 'cause it
> > does not have any legs. Which is the american english name for this
> > "attacheable gas oven"?
> > My problem is the following: I'm constructing my own kitchen cabinets and I
> > bought an "attacheable gas oven". I'm looking for instructions on how to
> > attach the device to the holding cabinet. The user guide included in the
> > device specifies the size of the clearings for the holding cabinet but does
> > not tell anything if I need to protect the internal walls of the cabinets
> > with something thermal. My fear is the device contains an oven. May be the
> > hot oven can cause a fire on the cabinet? The cabinets are made of
> > particleboard and painted with oil-based enamel. The instructions from the
> > fabricant specifies a clearing of 40 millimetres from both sides of the oven
> > wich has ventilation openings on both sides but no more.
> > Then I'm looking for some tricks on how do the job, but I'm not capable of
> > select the correct english keywords. I've been googling for images with "gas
> > oven" or "gas range" keywords and all the results I get are the freestanding
> > versions, not the attaceable ones...
> >
> > So any hint on the correct keywords, or in how the attach such a device to
> > the cabinet is welcomed
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Sammy
>
> First off, I have to compliment you on your English. It is a much
> better than any other language that I speak -- or most American speak
> as a second language.
>
> Second, I want to make sure that we are talking about the same things.
> Check out this:
> http://images.google.com/images?q=%22built+in+oven%22&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images
>
> Third, are you instructions complete. If so, you are probably okay.
>
> Finally, sheetrock (gypsum) make a pretty good fireproofing. You could
> install some inside the cabinet opening, but if the instructions are
> complete, you're probably okay.
>
> Pat.
See if this helps.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22built+in+oven%22+%2Binstallation+%2Binstructions&btnG=Google+Search
SammyBar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> So any hint on the correct keywords, or in how the attach such a device to
> the cabinet is welcomed
we have recently replaced our fitted oven (Neff, electric) and it is a
tight fit at the sides. It sits against standard melamine chipboard so
is only an outer skin. Clearance at the rear is the one you need to find
out about.
We have a drop in gas range above it which just sits in a hole in the
counter top, there are little metal clips in the edges of the hole that
grip it.
It is much safer to make sure the appliance is not going to have hot
external walls than to trust that the installation will be appropriate
and not cause a fire.
Peter
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On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 09:05:44 -0500, "SammyBar" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>one that is called "freestanding" 'cause it stands on his own feets, and the
>second variant is supposed to be attached to the kitchen cabinets 'cause it
>does not have any legs. Which is the american english name for this
>"attacheable gas oven"?
Locally, we call it a drop in range.
>My problem is the following: I'm constructing my own kitchen cabinets and I
>bought an "attacheable gas oven". I'm looking for instructions on how to
>attach the device to the holding cabinet. The user guide included in the
>device specifies the size of the clearings for the holding cabinet but does
>not tell anything if I need to protect the internal walls of the cabinets
>with something thermal. My fear is the device contains an oven. May be the
>hot oven can cause a fire on the cabinet?
Check your manual for clearances but with all that we have installed
none have required extra protection inside the cabinet to which the
range was mounted. One thing they do seem to be specific about is the
clearances to anything flammable ABOVE the cook top surface.
Another thing to look for is the cut-out dimensions for the counter
top. Often times the cut-out in the counter top will require a small
notch near the front edge of the cut-out.
If you are unsure about your manual, check the web site of the range
manufacturer for any updated version of the manual.
Mike O.
My "device" is not exactly that. It is not a oven but "a oven with a
cocktop". But the most critical part in terms of security is the oven so
I'll check the provided links.
Thanks for your help.
Sammy
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>
> Pat wrote:
>> SammyBar wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I have some problems with my english vocabulary so I need to make some
>> > First:
>> > Is it "gas oven" or "gas range" the english (american) name for the
>> > device
>> > that is used for coooking dinner in the kitchen? I mean the device that
>> > have
>> > integrated a cooktop and a oven. Such device comes in two variants: it
>> > is
>> > one that is called "freestanding" 'cause it stands on his own feets,
>> > and the
>> > second variant is supposed to be attached to the kitchen cabinets
>> > 'cause it
>> > does not have any legs. Which is the american english name for this
>> > "attacheable gas oven"?
>> > My problem is the following: I'm constructing my own kitchen cabinets
>> > and I
>> > bought an "attacheable gas oven". I'm looking for instructions on how
>> > to
>> > attach the device to the holding cabinet. The user guide included in
>> > the
>> > device specifies the size of the clearings for the holding cabinet but
>> > does
>> > not tell anything if I need to protect the internal walls of the
>> > cabinets
>> > with something thermal. My fear is the device contains an oven. May be
>> > the
>> > hot oven can cause a fire on the cabinet? The cabinets are made of
>> > particleboard and painted with oil-based enamel. The instructions from
>> > the
>> > fabricant specifies a clearing of 40 millimetres from both sides of the
>> > oven
>> > wich has ventilation openings on both sides but no more.
>> > Then I'm looking for some tricks on how do the job, but I'm not capable
>> > of
>> > select the correct english keywords. I've been googling for images with
>> > "gas
>> > oven" or "gas range" keywords and all the results I get are the
>> > freestanding
>> > versions, not the attaceable ones...
>> >
>> > So any hint on the correct keywords, or in how the attach such a device
>> > to
>> > the cabinet is welcomed
>> > Thanks in advance
>> >
>> > Sammy
>>
>> First off, I have to compliment you on your English. It is a much
>> better than any other language that I speak -- or most American speak
>> as a second language.
>>
>> Second, I want to make sure that we are talking about the same things.
>> Check out this:
>> http://images.google.com/images?q=%22built+in+oven%22&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images
>>
>> Third, are you instructions complete. If so, you are probably okay.
>>
>> Finally, sheetrock (gypsum) make a pretty good fireproofing. You could
>> install some inside the cabinet opening, but if the instructions are
>> complete, you're probably okay.
>>
>> Pat.
>
> See if this helps.
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22built+in+oven%22+%2Binstallation+%2Binstructions&btnG=Google+Search
>
> What you are describing is called a "drop-in range" if it has no feet. If
> it has feet, but no finished sides, it is a "slide-in range". If it has
> finished sides and feet, it is a "freestanding range".
Your definitions are very clear. I'd suggest to add them to the wikipedia.
I'm not kidding. It was the first place I look for the correct names and
nothing about ovens and ranges more than some old pictures and history...
> instructions should clearly show the minimum distance to flammable
> materials.
My instructions specifies 40millimetres on each side and on the back. But it
does not says anything if the material can be anything or something
fireproof...
> Check your instructions for some type of phone-in help line. They would
> rather answer your questions than defend a lawsuit.
You are right. I'll try to contact the manufacturer. Our customer support
service rates are not very outstanding (Mexico) but anyway I'll try. The
manufacturer is Bosch that is a very expensive one so it will be curious to
rate their customer support service...
Thank you very much for your hints
Regards
Sammy
> Check your manual for clearances but with all that we have installed
> none have required extra protection inside the cabinet to which the
> range was mounted. One thing they do seem to be specific about is the
> clearances to anything flammable ABOVE the cook top surface.
There is nothing said about clearance above... I plan to put a cheap ....
mmmh how to say "pseudo smokestack" on top in the future but in between it
will have a particleboard cabinet above... I'll check for this point.
> Another thing to look for is the cut-out dimensions for the counter
> top. Often times the cut-out in the counter top will require a small
> notch near the front edge of the cut-out.
You are right. I know some drop in range models have a "cut" on each side to
be attached to the counter top. But this model comes with a slot or "wing"
outward of the top of each side and continues on the front. So I'll need to
make a special cut to get the range correctly installed
Thanks for your hints
Sammy
> WARNING! Minimum space above any stove or cooktop is 30" unless the bottom
> of the cabinet above is non-combustible. (Like a vent hood). Then the
> minimum is 24". Keep in mind what will happen if a pot cooking on the
> stovetop catches fire.
I designed the cabinet that will be located on top of the range based only
on aestetical considerations: just to be less taller than the surrounding
cabinets.
I'll check this, Thanks!
> If you have not already built the cabinet for it could you not add 10 or
> 20 mm to the minimum opening just to feel a little safer? Other than that
> I don't know enough about that type of stove/range to give you any more
> suggestions.
The oven is a BOSCH BE200 20'' drop in range. I did not build the base
cabinets yet. In my initial plan the range cabinet was 20'' wide but now I
should change all the design to accomodate the extra 80mm. The problem is
the kitchen is very small so I arranged all the cabinets to use standard
(Mill's Pride/Home Depot) cabinets doors, resulting in a few cm clearance on
each wall. But I think I'll stretch the cabinets on each side of the range
cabinet but still remain the doors on the standard size. Then the doors will
close over the range cabinet and it will look like the range cabinet was
20'' wide.
Thanks
Sammy
SammyBar wrote:
> My instructions specifies 40millimetres on each side and on the
> back. But it does not says anything if the material can be anything
> or something fireproof...
No importa el tipo de material puesto que la estufa tiene aislamiento
integral. Mantenga las distancias dado por las instrucciones.
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On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 11:12:46 -0500, "SammyBar" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>> What you are describing is called a "drop-in range" if it has no feet. If
>> it has feet, but no finished sides, it is a "slide-in range". If it has
>> finished sides and feet, it is a "freestanding range".
>Your definitions are very clear. I'd suggest to add them to the wikipedia.
>I'm not kidding. It was the first place I look for the correct names and
>nothing about ovens and ranges more than some old pictures and history...
>
>> instructions should clearly show the minimum distance to flammable
>> materials.
>My instructions specifies 40millimetres on each side and on the back. But it
>does not says anything if the material can be anything or something
>fireproof...
>
>> Check your instructions for some type of phone-in help line. They would
>> rather answer your questions than defend a lawsuit.
>You are right. I'll try to contact the manufacturer. Our customer support
>service rates are not very outstanding (Mexico) but anyway I'll try. The
>manufacturer is Bosch that is a very expensive one so it will be curious to
>rate their customer support service...
I installed a Bosch unit similar to what you're describing for a
customer last year, and it just slides in- no need to fireproof the
cabinets on either side. That's a nice oven, BTW. If you've got the
glass surfaced burners on it, just be sure the countertop is dead
level and you've got some help- they're heavy, and you don't want to
drop one of those suckers!
"SammyBar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> There is nothing said about clearance above... I plan to put a cheap ....
> mmmh how to say "pseudo smokestack" on top in the future but in between it
> will have a particleboard cabinet above... I'll check for this point.
>
WARNING! Minimum space above any stove or cooktop is 30" unless the bottom
of the cabinet above is non-combustible. (Like a vent hood). Then the
minimum is 24". Keep in mind what will happen if a pot cooking on the
stovetop catches fire.
"SammyBar" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> So any hint on the correct keywords, or in how the attach such a device to
> the cabinet is welcomed
> Thanks in advance
>
I would try "built in appliances".
And the oven - cook top combination is usually called a range.
At least in the local ads.
"SammyBar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My instructions specifies 40millimetres on each side and on the back. But
> it does not says anything if the material can be anything or something
> fireproof...
>
That would almost certainly be the minimum clearance to a combustible
material. I have never seen a range specify that you need to add anything as
a shield between the appliance and the cabinet. (Unless it was required as
part of an installation kit) If you are that concerned, I suppose you could
attach some thin sheet metal to the sides of the cabinets. Mine is installed
up against bare wood, and when the oven is on, the interior walls of the
cabinets on either side get a little warm, but certainly not hot.
If you have not already built the cabinet for it could you not add 10 or
20 mm to the minimum opening just to feel a little safer? Other than that I
don't know enough about that type of stove/range to give you any more
suggestions.
Good luck with it.
Jim
"SammyBar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi all,
>
> I have some problems with my english vocabulary so I need to make some
> First:
> Is it "gas oven" or "gas range" the english (american) name for the device
> that is used for coooking dinner in the kitchen? I mean the device that
> have integrated a cooktop and a oven. Such device comes in two variants:
> it is one that is called "freestanding" 'cause it stands on his own feets,
> and the second variant is supposed to be attached to the kitchen cabinets
> 'cause it does not have any legs. Which is the american english name for
> this "attacheable gas oven"?
> My problem is the following: I'm constructing my own kitchen cabinets and
> I bought an "attacheable gas oven". I'm looking for instructions on how to
> attach the device to the holding cabinet. The user guide included in the
> device specifies the size of the clearings for the holding cabinet but
> does not tell anything if I need to protect the internal walls of the
> cabinets with something thermal. My fear is the device contains an oven.
> May be the hot oven can cause a fire on the cabinet? The cabinets are made
> of particleboard and painted with oil-based enamel. The instructions from
> the fabricant specifies a clearing of 40 millimetres from both sides of
> the oven wich has ventilation openings on both sides but no more.
> Then I'm looking for some tricks on how do the job, but I'm not capable of
> select the correct english keywords. I've been googling for images with
> "gas oven" or "gas range" keywords and all the results I get are the
> freestanding versions, not the attaceable ones...
>
> So any hint on the correct keywords, or in how the attach such a device to
> the cabinet is welcomed
> Thanks in advance
>
> Sammy
>
"SammyBar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi all,
>
> I have some problems with my english vocabulary so I need to make some
> First:
> Is it "gas oven" or "gas range" the english (american) name for the device
> that is used for coooking dinner in the kitchen? I mean the device that
> have integrated a cooktop and a oven. Such device comes in two variants:
> it is one that is called "freestanding" 'cause it stands on his own feets,
> and the second variant is supposed to be attached to the kitchen cabinets
> 'cause it does not have any legs. Which is the american english name for
> this "attacheable gas oven"?
> My problem is the following: I'm constructing my own kitchen cabinets and
> I bought an "attacheable gas oven". I'm looking for instructions on how to
> attach the device to the holding cabinet. The user guide included in the
> device specifies the size of the clearings for the holding cabinet but
> does not tell anything if I need to protect the internal walls of the
> cabinets with something thermal. My fear is the device contains an oven.
> May be the hot oven can cause a fire on the cabinet? The cabinets are made
> of particleboard and painted with oil-based enamel. The instructions from
> the fabricant specifies a clearing of 40 millimetres from both sides of
> the oven wich has ventilation openings on both sides but no more.
> Then I'm looking for some tricks on how do the job, but I'm not capable of
> select the correct english keywords. I've been googling for images with
> "gas oven" or "gas range" keywords and all the results I get are the
> freestanding versions, not the attaceable ones...
>
> So any hint on the correct keywords, or in how the attach such a device to
> the cabinet is welcomed
> Thanks in advance
>
> Sammy
>
What you are describing is called a "drop-in range" if it has no feet. If it
has feet, but no finished sides, it is a "slide-in range". If it has
finished sides and feet, it is a "freestanding range". In any case, the
instructions should clearly show the minimum distance to flammable
materials. In the case of my slide-in electric, I was required to leave 1"
at the rear. The sides were zero clearance. As long as it fit in the hole,
the insulation on the stove was good enough for direct contact with the
cabinet.
Check your instructions for some type of phone-in help line. They would
rather answer your questions than defend a lawsuit.
Try contacting them via e-mail or website, if you have issues getting in
touch through a toll-free number.
Clint
"SammyBar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> What you are describing is called a "drop-in range" if it has no feet. If
>> it has feet, but no finished sides, it is a "slide-in range". If it has
>> finished sides and feet, it is a "freestanding range".
> Your definitions are very clear. I'd suggest to add them to the wikipedia.
> I'm not kidding. It was the first place I look for the correct names and
> nothing about ovens and ranges more than some old pictures and history...
>
>> instructions should clearly show the minimum distance to flammable
>> materials.
> My instructions specifies 40millimetres on each side and on the back. But
> it does not says anything if the material can be anything or something
> fireproof...
>
>> Check your instructions for some type of phone-in help line. They would
>> rather answer your questions than defend a lawsuit.
> You are right. I'll try to contact the manufacturer. Our customer support
> service rates are not very outstanding (Mexico) but anyway I'll try. The
> manufacturer is Bosch that is a very expensive one so it will be curious
> to rate their customer support service...
>
> Thank you very much for your hints
> Regards
> Sammy
>
"Lee Michaels" wrote
>
> "SammyBar" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>> So any hint on the correct keywords, or in how the attach such a device
>> to the cabinet is welcomed
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>
> I would try "built in appliances".
>
> And the oven - cook top combination is usually called a range.
>
> At least in the local ads.
>
The terms; "drop in range" and "drop in stove" are also used.