On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 23:17:45 +0000, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> calmly ranted:
>On 4 Nov 2004 13:07:45 -0800, [email protected] (Robert) wrote:
>
>>Gorilla Glue says it can glue metals. Has any tried to glue a brass
>>sole to a wooden plane?
>
>Brass is infamously difficult to glue. I've had as much luck with
>polyurethane glues (Balcotan, not Gorilla) as I have with epoxy, so
>give it a go. IMHE, you need to scratch the surface bright (sandpaper
>or steel wool) immediately before gluing it.
I have one of Steve Knight's first shoulder planes with the
brass sole. The first piece fell off within a month. The other
about a year later. I just replaced them with a jarrah sole
which ought to stay put. The problem is that the metal and
wood expand at different rates during temperature swings. If
you want to affix brass to wood, screw it. No, I meant...
>Personally I'd do it the traditional way; use a thick sole plate and
>well countersunk brass screws.
There ya go. And fill in the slots with bondo so it's a smooth
bottom.
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On 4 Nov 2004 13:07:45 -0800, [email protected] (Robert) wrote:
>Gorilla Glue says it can glue metals. Has any tried to glue a brass
>sole to a wooden plane?
Brass is infamously difficult to glue. I've had as much luck with
polyurethane glues (Balcotan, not Gorilla) as I have with epoxy, so
give it a go. IMHE, you need to scratch the surface bright (sandpaper
or steel wool) immediately before gluing it.
Personally I'd do it the traditional way; use a thick sole plate and
well countersunk brass screws.
> Gorilla Glue says it can glue metals. Has any tried to glue a brass
> sole to a wooden plane? I've made handplanes with hardwood soles but
> was thinking of giving this a try. Brass is relatively easy to work
> and should wear better than any type of wood.
I used GG to glue three wooden discs together before I knew that it foams
for a while before drying. It taught me to do the clamping VERY carefully.
I found the disc floating away because I didn't read the label first, but it was
somewhat dark, diabetic neuropathy in my eyes, and little tiny black letters
on a dark label. That's my excuse. The disc came out 99.5% "ok".
I would use steel or bronze. Brass is too soft. But, what the hell do I know?
Alex
"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Gorilla Glue says it can glue metals. Has any tried to glue a brass
> sole to a wooden plane? I've made handplanes with hardwood soles but
> was thinking of giving this a try. Brass is relatively easy to work
> and should wear better than any type of wood.
I'd use epoxy. Lee Valley carries a good brand.
<snip>
>
> The OP's plane probably will be stored on a shelf in the shop, not his
> fridge, too.
>
This time of year, the fridge MIGHT be warmer overnight. ;-)
For those of you still interested in this thread...
There are some SERIOUS handplane freaks who hang out in the hand tools
message area over at woodcentral.com
Patriarch
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 13:07:45 -0800, Robert wrote:
> Gorilla Glue says it can glue metals. Has any tried to glue a brass
> sole to a wooden plane? I've made handplanes with hardwood soles but
> was thinking of giving this a try. Brass is relatively easy to work
> and should wear better than any type of wood.
I made a little try square with some leftover ash and brass strip, glued
with GG instead of riveting it. Holds together nicely. Also used GG to
hold carving knives together -- handle halves with blade in a wee groove.
Works like a charm. Go for it. Post pictures.
--
"Keep your ass behind you"
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 07:26:57 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote:
> Toss it in the fridge and lay it in the sun a couple times.
> You'll soon see why brass glued to wood is not a good idea.
Quite likely they will come apart. As I rarely do either of these things
with my carving knives or try square, it'll have to do. Until I get some
brass rivets from LV, of course.
The OP's plane probably will be stored on a shelf in the shop, not his
fridge, too.
--
"Keep your ass behind you"
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 21:55:48 -0600, Australopithecus scobis
<[email protected]> calmly ranted:
>On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 13:07:45 -0800, Robert wrote:
>
>> Gorilla Glue says it can glue metals. Has any tried to glue a brass
>> sole to a wooden plane? I've made handplanes with hardwood soles but
>> was thinking of giving this a try. Brass is relatively easy to work
>> and should wear better than any type of wood.
>
>I made a little try square with some leftover ash and brass strip, glued
>with GG instead of riveting it. Holds together nicely. Also used GG to
>hold carving knives together -- handle halves with blade in a wee groove.
>Works like a charm. Go for it. Post pictures.
Toss it in the fridge and lay it in the sun a couple times.
You'll soon see why brass glued to wood is not a good idea.
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Sex is Evil, Evil is Sin, Sin is Forgiven.
Gee, ain't religion GREAT?
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Polyurethanes need moisture to cure properly, so follow the label
directions, and it *should* work. I've just started using GG a few months
ago, and it hasn't let me down yet.
--Mike
"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Gorilla Glue says it can glue metals. Has any tried to glue a brass
> sole to a wooden plane? I've made handplanes with hardwood soles but
> was thinking of giving this a try. Brass is relatively easy to work
> and should wear better than any type of wood.