I have just posted my latest SQ - Stupid Question - because I find
myself overthinking about the various options in most projects in
several areas.
Quandries include:
Joints? - which one?
Techniques - example, my question re the sequence of cutting a picture
frame.
Design?
Materials?
Do you find yourself overthinking? (The more tools, the greater the
o-ptions, it seems.) In what areas? Does more experience add more
options?
Discuss and compare and contrast. 25% of exam grade.
Yes Bob, But how long did it take you to figure out how to freeze dry it and
convert it into that push stick?
Roy
"Cape Cod Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 06:40:34 -0500, "Roy Neudecker"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >HA! Don't you go to your computer to expand on your PROBLEM! What do you
> >think we are some kind of humanoid Super Computer for you? I see through
> >your question this is a clear attempt at getting us spend our lives
helping
> >you get through the question that arise in your atempt to make a push
> >stick.
> >
> >Well, you are not going to do it to me.
>
> Well, well smarty-pants. I already have a push stick. Of course, I
> no longer have a cat, but you can't have everything.
Do I ever overthink?
Hmmm....let me see. All projects start with thinking, generally about what
steps to take, do I have the tools and so forth, and naturally about the
design of whatever it is I'm thinking of making. At some point I realize
that I've been thinking a long time, and no sawdust is being made, and then
I think I've been overthinking, but on the other hand, underthinking is a
great danger as well, so I usually think a bit longer even though I think
I've been overthinking. Just when I think I'm convinced I'm overthinking,
I'll - you guessed it - think of something that clearly indicates I've been
under thinking and that more thinking is required. At some point during all
this thinking, I sometimes think to myself "why all this thinking? It's a
hobby for Pete's sake, and you're not getting anything done!", then I think
"Well, yeah, but if enjoyment is the goal, and I'm enjoying myself thinking,
then just thinking's ok." Of course, I think actually getting something made
is better than just thinking, but sometimes I get something done and think
to myself "Ya know, I really should have thought about this more before I
started..." But, if you think about it, thinking _is_ doing - to think is a
verb after all, so if thinking is doing, then it doesn't really matter if
you are thinking or doing - they're both the same thing! I wish I'd thought
of that before I bought all these tools! 8-)
"Cape Cod Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have just posted my latest SQ - Stupid Question - because I find
> myself overthinking about the various options in most projects in
> several areas.
> Quandries include:
> Joints? - which one?
> Techniques - example, my question re the sequence of cutting a picture
> frame.
> Design?
> Materials?
>
> Do you find yourself overthinking? (The more tools, the greater the
> o-ptions, it seems.) In what areas? Does more experience add more
> options?
>
> Discuss and compare and contrast. 25% of exam grade.
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:07:34 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Robert Bonomi wrote:
>
>> FINGER joints!
>>
>> Eight on each hand.
>>
>> I'm _always_ thinking about 'em. particularly near any equipment
>> with moving parts. *Especially* when they're _sharp_ moving parts.
>
>Evidently not paying enough attention. Eight finger joints on each hand? I
>have twelve on each hand, not counting thumbs.
Maybe he's not so good with the bandsaw?
In article <[email protected]>, UnisawA100
@wi.rr.com says...
> I find the "thinking" portion of a project is usually kinda
> fun to the point where final execution sometimes feels like
> I'm "just going through the motions".
>
> Also, it has been my experience that flashes of utter
> brilliance occur throughout the life of the project
Yeah, me too, but they usually occur about 5 minutes after the glue
has started setting up or I just cut the joinery for the joint that
would have been much better had I done it like this ...
I'll solve that one for you Andy. Send me 90% of your stock so that you
won't stress over finding the perfect board; you'll just grab whatever's
left for your next project. <g>
dave
Andy Dingley wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 19:01:59 -0500, Cape Cod Bob
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Do you find yourself overthinking?
>
>
> You bet.
>
> Worst of all is having too much raw timber. Can't do a damn thing,
> because I can;t decide which is the absolute optimum board to use.
>
HA! Don't you go to your computer to expand on your PROBLEM! What do you
think we are some kind of humanoid Super Computer for you? I see through
your question this is a clear attempt at getting us spend our lives helping
you get through the question that arise in your atempt to make a push
stick.
Well, you are not going to do it to me.
"Cape Cod Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message in an attempt to
suck his fellow woodworkers into his disillusionment
news:[email protected]...
> I have just posted my latest SQ - Stupid Question - because I find
> myself overthinking about the various options in most projects in
> several areas.
> Quandries include:
> Joints? - which one?
> Techniques - example, my question re the sequence of cutting a picture
> frame.
> Design?
> Materials?
>
> Do you find yourself overthinking? (The more tools, the greater the
> o-ptions, it seems.) In what areas? Does more experience add more
> options?
>
> Discuss and compare and contrast. 25% of exam grade.
Hi Bob
Who's opinion do you want, me or my wife's?
Take care
--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Cape Cod Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have just posted my latest SQ - Stupid Question - because I find
> myself overthinking about the various options in most projects in
> several areas.
> Quandries include:
> Joints? - which one?
> Techniques - example, my question re the sequence of cutting a picture
> frame.
> Design?
> Materials?
>
> Do you find yourself overthinking? (The more tools, the greater the
> o-ptions, it seems.) In what areas? Does more experience add more
> options?
>
> Discuss and compare and contrast. 25% of exam grade.
On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 19:01:59 -0500, Cape Cod Bob
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Discuss and compare and contrast. 25% of exam grade.
We don't hear from you all summer, and now you want us to write thesis
papers? <G> Where ya' been, stuck in traffic on Rt. 6?
I overthink on occasion, but usually when I do, the clearly correct
answer always becomes apparent when I'm about to start using the tool.
Once I started to realize that I do this, I began to take "practice
swings" without touching the tool to the wood. Occasionally, a better
method comes to me during the practice. If it dosen't, I usually have
to best method I know ready to go.
I know _I_ understand what I just said, hopefully you folks do as
well.
Barry
In article <[email protected]>,
Cape Cod Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
>I have just posted my latest SQ - Stupid Question - because I find
>myself overthinking about the various options in most projects in
>several areas.
>Quandries include:
>Joints? - which one?
*that* question is easy.
FINGER joints!
Eight on each hand.
I'm _always_ thinking about 'em. particularly near any equipment
with moving parts. *Especially* when they're _sharp_ moving parts.
I find the "thinking" portion of a project is usually kinda
fun to the point where final execution sometimes feels like
I'm "just going through the motions".
Also, it has been my experience that flashes of utter
brilliance occur throughout the life of the project thus
justifying those self-imposed delays when I question the
next move/ponder a design element/re-figure how I'm "gonna
do this part". Some short sighted people call this
procrastination. I know better now.
It's all in how you look (and re-look) at things and
attitude.
UA100
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 06:40:34 -0500, "Roy Neudecker"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>HA! Don't you go to your computer to expand on your PROBLEM! What do you
>think we are some kind of humanoid Super Computer for you? I see through
>your question this is a clear attempt at getting us spend our lives helping
>you get through the question that arise in your atempt to make a push
>stick.
>
>Well, you are not going to do it to me.
Well, well smarty-pants. I already have a push stick. Of course, I
no longer have a cat, but you can't have everything.
Robert Bonomi wrote:
> FINGER joints!
>
> Eight on each hand.
>
> I'm _always_ thinking about 'em. particularly near any equipment
> with moving parts. *Especially* when they're _sharp_ moving parts.
Evidently not paying enough attention. Eight finger joints on each hand? I
have twelve on each hand, not counting thumbs.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
In article <[email protected]>,
Cape Cod Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
> Do you find yourself overthinking? (The more tools, the greater the
> o-ptions, it seems.) In what areas? Does more experience add more
> options?
>
When I'm in the shop, I'm right-brained. I think in pictures. The
finished product spins in my head like a VR computer display, only
better. The joints design themselves, and the hand tools volunteer. It
is so fun.
I tried to design and build a crosscut jig for my circ saw by thinking
it out and calculating on paper. Nasty, ugly, out-of-square, yuck.
BTW, today is my first visit to wreck woodwork. Hiya.
On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 19:01:59 -0500, Cape Cod Bob
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Do you find yourself overthinking?
You bet.
Worst of all is having too much raw timber. Can't do a damn thing,
because I can;t decide which is the absolute optimum board to use.
I agree with Andrew on this one. The more the experience the less options as
you know what's going to work. Granted all problem provide multiple
solutions and as you state more tools provide more solutions. When on a
jobsite I tend to collaborate and see what ideas the other trades have,
folks like me that have had to come up with oddball solutions to cockamamie
ideas homeowners and their new age designers come up with. There are many
great ideas here and in a couple of the other newsgroups where other people
provide unique solutions to some projects. For me the journey is much more
interesting than the destination. If I can build a jig or tool instead of
spending cash on technology to solve a problem, you bet I overthink
/over-engineer the whole thing.
EJ