RS

Rick Stein

06/03/2004 2:37 PM

starrett straightedge

I found this on ebay. Normal disclaimers - not associated with the
seller. I remember periodic questions about straightedges so thought
this link would be helpful.

Rick

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3801519941&category=12581


This topic has 22 replies

Bb

Bruce

in reply to Rick Stein on 06/03/2004 2:37 PM

07/03/2004 8:00 AM

You can do very sensitive detection of waves and ripples in cast iron table
tops with very low angle light. The benefit is you can see the full plane at
once versus just a line through it. Set up a bright light as far away as
practical in a dark room (slide projector works great). Adjust the height
until it just skims the table top.

-Bruce


JB

"J.B. Bobbitt"

in reply to Rick Stein on 06/03/2004 2:37 PM

06/03/2004 4:51 PM

hee hee ......

I've been wanting a quality straightedge. So when I read this post, I went
immediately over to E-bay and ran the bid up $20, unsuccessfully.

-JBB


"Rick Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I found this on ebay. Normal disclaimers - not associated with the
> seller. I remember periodic questions about straightedges so thought
> this link would be helpful.
>
> Rick
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3801519941&category=12581
>

wn

"woodydelsur"

in reply to Rick Stein on 06/03/2004 2:37 PM

06/03/2004 11:27 PM

Wow $1 an inch????

Has anyone had a straight edge made at a machine shop? I assume they can
make them straight but how much would it cost?


"Rob Stokes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Nlq2c.144356$Hy3.72268@edtnps89...
> it's at $75 now... :(
>
> Rob
>
> --
> Please visit our (recently updated) web site:
> http://www.robswoodworking.com
>
> "J.B. Bobbitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > hee hee ......
> >
> > I've been wanting a quality straightedge. So when I read this post, I
> went
> > immediately over to E-bay and ran the bid up $20, unsuccessfully.
> >
> > -JBB
> >
> >
> > "Rick Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I found this on ebay. Normal disclaimers - not associated with the
> > > seller. I remember periodic questions about straightedges so thought
> > > this link would be helpful.
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3801519941&category=12581
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to Rick Stein on 06/03/2004 2:37 PM

06/03/2004 10:03 PM

woodydelsur wrote:
>
> Has anyone had a straight edge made at a machine shop? I assume they can
> make them straight but how much would it cost?

The cost of three bits of scrap metal:
http://www.tdl.com/~swensen/machines/straight_edge/straight_edge.html.

xD

[email protected] (Dave Mundt)

in reply to Rick Stein on 06/03/2004 2:37 PM

07/03/2004 1:56 AM

Greetings and Salutations...

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 20:17:49 GMT, "Rob Stokes" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>it's at $75 now... :(
>
>Rob
>
>--
>Please visit our (recently updated) web site:
>http://www.robswoodworking.com
>
>"J.B. Bobbitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> hee hee ......
>>
>> I've been wanting a quality straightedge. So when I read this post, I
>went
>> immediately over to E-bay and ran the bid up $20, unsuccessfully.
>>
>> -JBB
>>
>>
>> "Rick Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > I found this on ebay. Normal disclaimers - not associated with the
>> > seller. I remember periodic questions about straightedges so thought
>> > this link would be helpful.
>> >
>> > Rick
>> >
>> >
>>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3801519941&category=12581
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
And when I looked at it the bid was up to $99. Of course,
since the street price on this puppy seems to be about 300$ or so,
that is still a pretty good price. If one needs a 6' long,
REALLY accurate straight edge.
Dave Mundt

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to Rick Stein on 06/03/2004 2:37 PM

06/03/2004 11:23 PM

I like Starrett rules at least as much as anyone but would like
to suggest that the kind of precision we expect of Starrett is
rarely needed in most woodshops.

Some time back I set aside 4' and 8' lengths of 1/8" x 1-1/2" x
1-1/2" extruded aluminum angle and 1/8" x 1-1/2" flat bar stock.

The flat is 0.125" thick and 1.500" wide everywhere I've measured
and, using the three-bar test, appeared straight over its entire
length.

The angle is similarly uniform in straightness, width and
thickness; but the outer faces do not meet at exactly 90º. Since
I don't use it for checking squareness, I don't care (I /do/ have
a nice Starrett square for that job) - I use the angle only as a
straightedge when the bar would not be supported for its entire
length (the angle is less inclined to sag when not completely
supported) and I always use the shortest edge the job requires.

It's been long enough since I bought the aluminum that I've
forgotten the exact price - but I think all four pieces cost less
than US$25. I drilled a 3/8" hole at the end of each piece so
they could be hung on the wall out of harm's way - and I got
crazy one day and hand polished the short flat straightedge
(using Gunk and a paper towel) until it was mirror bright.

No, they're not *ultra* precise - and they don't have scales; but
they do fill /my/ needs for straight reference edges as well as
would Starrett's best.

If the eBay price moves out of reach, you might find my approach
to be a adequate/satisfactory alternative.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA

RS

"Rob Stokes"

in reply to Rick Stein on 06/03/2004 2:37 PM

06/03/2004 8:17 PM

it's at $75 now... :(

Rob

--
Please visit our (recently updated) web site:
http://www.robswoodworking.com

"J.B. Bobbitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> hee hee ......
>
> I've been wanting a quality straightedge. So when I read this post, I
went
> immediately over to E-bay and ran the bid up $20, unsuccessfully.
>
> -JBB
>
>
> "Rick Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I found this on ebay. Normal disclaimers - not associated with the
> > seller. I remember periodic questions about straightedges so thought
> > this link would be helpful.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3801519941&category=12581
> >
>
>

tf

"todd"

in reply to Rick Stein on 06/03/2004 2:37 PM

06/03/2004 10:28 PM

"Father Haskell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> woodydelsur wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone had a straight edge made at a machine shop? I assume they
can
> > make them straight but how much would it cost?
>
> The cost of three bits of scrap metal:
> http://www.tdl.com/~swensen/machines/straight_edge/straight_edge.html.

Uh huh. And how long would this process take for a novice?

todd

wn

"woodydelsur"

in reply to Rick Stein on 06/03/2004 2:37 PM

06/03/2004 11:52 PM

Oh man.... as a hobbyist I don't think I need anything that
straight.....(leave it alone ;-))

I'll check at the machine shop and see what they can do for me.

Woody


"Joe Wells" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 20:17:49 +0000, Rob Stokes wrote:
>
> > it's at $75 now... :(
>
> Started poking around on the 'net a bit. A Starrett 72" straight edge
> generally retails for $300-400 dollars. So if the one in the auction
> hasn't been abused, it's a steal. Right now it's at $99, but there's still
> 6 days to go.
>
> --
> Joe Wells
>

JC

John Crea

in reply to Rick Stein on 06/03/2004 2:37 PM

06/03/2004 11:22 PM

Of course, that Starrett 72in straight edge NEW cost over $300

John

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 23:27:57 GMT, "woodydelsur" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Wow $1 an inch????
>
>Has anyone had a straight edge made at a machine shop? I assume they can
>make them straight but how much would it cost?
>
>
>"Rob Stokes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:Nlq2c.144356$Hy3.72268@edtnps89...
>> it's at $75 now... :(
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> --
>> Please visit our (recently updated) web site:
>> http://www.robswoodworking.com
>>
>> "J.B. Bobbitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > hee hee ......
>> >
>> > I've been wanting a quality straightedge. So when I read this post, I
>> went
>> > immediately over to E-bay and ran the bid up $20, unsuccessfully.
>> >
>> > -JBB
>> >
>> >
>> > "Rick Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news:[email protected]...
>> > > I found this on ebay. Normal disclaimers - not associated with the
>> > > seller. I remember periodic questions about straightedges so thought
>> > > this link would be helpful.
>> > >
>> > > Rick
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3801519941&category=12581
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>

hH

[email protected] (Henry E Schaffer)

in reply to Rick Stein on 06/03/2004 2:37 PM

07/03/2004 8:14 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
woodydelsur <[email protected]> wrote:
>Has anyone had a straight edge made at a machine shop? I assume they can
>make them straight but how much would it cost?

Making them straight and having them stay straight aren't exactly the
same thing. The choice of the metal and the treatment of the metal can
require some expertise if one wants real precision which will last.
--
--henry schaffer
hes _AT_ ncsu _DOT_ edu

LZ

Luigi Zanasi

in reply to Rick Stein on 06/03/2004 2:37 PM

07/03/2004 1:28 AM

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 22:28:10 -0600, "todd" <[email protected]>
scribbled:

>"Father Haskell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> woodydelsur wrote:
>> >
>> > Has anyone had a straight edge made at a machine shop? I assume they
>can
>> > make them straight but how much would it cost?
>>
>> The cost of three bits of scrap metal:
>> http://www.tdl.com/~swensen/machines/straight_edge/straight_edge.html.
>
>Uh huh. And how long would this process take for a novice?

A few hours. I made 3 48" straightedges. See the description of my
experience.

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=v6nu1011u8ftslbb2ist7vli4ncbo8v0bp%404ax.com

Luigi
Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/antifaq.html
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/humour.html

MJ

"Mark Jerde"

in reply to Rick Stein on 06/03/2004 2:37 PM

07/03/2004 1:10 AM

woodydelsur wrote:

> I'll check at the machine shop and see what they can do for me.

Be sure to report back, please.

-- Mark

tf

"todd"

in reply to Rick Stein on 06/03/2004 2:37 PM

06/03/2004 7:41 PM

My guess is that you can add another zero to that bid and you *might* win.

todd

"J.B. Bobbitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> hee hee ......
>
> I've been wanting a quality straightedge. So when I read this post, I
went
> immediately over to E-bay and ran the bid up $20, unsuccessfully.
>
> -JBB
>
>
> "Rick Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I found this on ebay. Normal disclaimers - not associated with the
> > seller. I remember periodic questions about straightedges so thought
> > this link would be helpful.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3801519941&category=12581
> >
>
>

JW

Joe Wells

in reply to Rick Stein on 06/03/2004 2:37 PM

06/03/2004 5:43 PM

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 20:17:49 +0000, Rob Stokes wrote:

> it's at $75 now... :(

Started poking around on the 'net a bit. A Starrett 72" straight edge
generally retails for $300-400 dollars. So if the one in the auction
hasn't been abused, it's a steal. Right now it's at $99, but there's still
6 days to go.

--
Joe Wells

Bn

Bridger

in reply to Rick Stein on 06/03/2004 2:37 PM

06/03/2004 10:44 PM

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 23:23:24 -0600, Morris Dovey <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I like Starrett rules at least as much as anyone but would like
>to suggest that the kind of precision we expect of Starrett is
>rarely needed in most woodshops.
>
>Some time back I set aside 4' and 8' lengths of 1/8" x 1-1/2" x
>1-1/2" extruded aluminum angle and 1/8" x 1-1/2" flat bar stock.
>
>The flat is 0.125" thick and 1.500" wide everywhere I've measured
>and, using the three-bar test, appeared straight over its entire
>length.
>
>The angle is similarly uniform in straightness, width and
>thickness; but the outer faces do not meet at exactly 90º. Since
>I don't use it for checking squareness, I don't care (I /do/ have
>a nice Starrett square for that job) - I use the angle only as a
>straightedge when the bar would not be supported for its entire
>length (the angle is less inclined to sag when not completely
>supported) and I always use the shortest edge the job requires.
>
>It's been long enough since I bought the aluminum that I've
>forgotten the exact price - but I think all four pieces cost less
>than US$25. I drilled a 3/8" hole at the end of each piece so
>they could be hung on the wall out of harm's way - and I got
>crazy one day and hand polished the short flat straightedge
>(using Gunk and a paper towel) until it was mirror bright.
>
>No, they're not *ultra* precise - and they don't have scales; but
>they do fill /my/ needs for straight reference edges as well as
>would Starrett's best.
>
>If the eBay price moves out of reach, you might find my approach
>to be a adequate/satisfactory alternative.


at a local junkyard I found some 6" x 1/4" hardened aluminum stock
that is as straight as I can measure.... for $1 a pound....

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to Rick Stein on 06/03/2004 2:37 PM

06/03/2004 6:03 PM

Rob Stokes wrote:
>it's at $75 now... :(


Two hunnerti$h (If I Remember Correctly) new from Starrett.

UA100

TD

"Timothy Drouillard"

in reply to Rick Stein on 06/03/2004 2:37 PM

06/03/2004 6:48 PM

I just looked it up at W W Graingers, and it lists for around $415.00

It's currently going on eBay for $99

"woodydelsur" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Wow $1 an inch????
>
> Has anyone had a straight edge made at a machine shop? I assume they can
> make them straight but how much would it cost?
>
>
> "Rob Stokes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:Nlq2c.144356$Hy3.72268@edtnps89...
> > it's at $75 now... :(
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > --
> > Please visit our (recently updated) web site:
> > http://www.robswoodworking.com
> >
> > "J.B. Bobbitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > hee hee ......
> > >
> > > I've been wanting a quality straightedge. So when I read this post, I
> > went
> > > immediately over to E-bay and ran the bid up $20, unsuccessfully.
> > >
> > > -JBB
> > >
> > >
> > > "Rick Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > I found this on ebay. Normal disclaimers - not associated with the
> > > > seller. I remember periodic questions about straightedges so thought
> > > > this link would be helpful.
> > > >
> > > > Rick
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3801519941&category=12581
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Bn

Bridger

in reply to Rick Stein on 06/03/2004 2:37 PM

06/03/2004 10:33 PM

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 22:28:10 -0600, "todd" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>"Father Haskell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> woodydelsur wrote:
>> >
>> > Has anyone had a straight edge made at a machine shop? I assume they
>can
>> > make them straight but how much would it cost?
>>
>> The cost of three bits of scrap metal:
>> http://www.tdl.com/~swensen/machines/straight_edge/straight_edge.html.
>
>Uh huh. And how long would this process take for a novice?
>
>todd
>


many many hours.


but seriously folks, for the accuracy that we as woodworkers need a
6foot length of 6" x 1/4" 6065t6 aluminum from a metal supply yard
will work fine.

Bn

Bridger

in reply to Rick Stein on 06/03/2004 2:37 PM

06/03/2004 4:59 PM

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 23:27:57 GMT, "woodydelsur" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Wow $1 an inch????

and a good deal at that price:
http://www.mscdirect.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Section_Id=1475&pcount=&Product_Id=300612&SearchFlag=

or

http://tinyurl.com/33dkb





>
>Has anyone had a straight edge made at a machine shop? I assume they can
>make them straight but how much would it cost?


depends how straight you need it to be. starrett stuff is not
overpriced for what it is. grinding a 6ft straight edge takes a huge
machine. I don't know if there even is one in my town

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to Rick Stein on 06/03/2004 2:37 PM

06/03/2004 11:56 PM

Bridger wrote:

> at a local junkyard I found some 6" x 1/4" hardened aluminum stock
> that is as straight as I can measure.... for $1 a pound....

/That's/ a gloat!

I'm stuck paying US$1.90/pound for an aircraft alloy (new).

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA

Cc

"CW"

in reply to Rick Stein on 06/03/2004 2:37 PM

06/03/2004 6:44 PM

For the same quality tat you can buy from a place that manufacturers them,
you would pay about 4 to five times that for custom made. There are
advantages to mass production.


> Has anyone had a straight edge made at a machine shop? I assume they can
> make them straight but how much would it cost?


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