JP

"Jon Parry"

11/02/2004 4:38 PM

Performax 16-32 vs. 22-44 opinions needed...

Greetings all,

I'm in the market for a smallish drum sander, and I am looking at
either the Performax 16-32 or 22-44. Anyone have any practical
experiences / observations / opinions to share?

Many thanks,

Jon.


This topic has 9 replies

sS

in reply to "Jon Parry" on 11/02/2004 4:38 PM

11/02/2004 1:54 PM

gabriel <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Jon Parry wrote:
>
> > I'm in the market for a smallish drum sander, and I am looking at
> > either the Performax 16-32 or 22-44. Anyone have any practical
> > experiences / observations / opinions to share?
>
> I have heard over and over from people disappointed that these sanders do
> not function that well for thickness sanding.
>
> I would say if you want to take off 0.25" off something you run it through
> a thickness planer first. Other than that, I've only heard good stuff
> about them.


I have the new "Junior" version of the Performax: the 10-20. I find
it to be a brilliant tool for what it is, and it does just fine for
98% of my needs, costs less, and takes up less room. For $25 a local
cabinet builder will run any large pieces through their commercial
unit. My only regret is that I didn't have it 5 years ago when I
began building guitars: hand-thicknessing all the parts to the nearest
0.1 mm is a real pain, I believe. However, as Gabriel indicated, I
would go to the planer to remove more than 1/8" or so . . .

As for the original question, a local Delta dealer had a compelling
argument for the Delta vs the Performax 16-32. No surpise there I
suppose. I don't recall his exact argument though. American
Woodworker liked the Performax in the below review:

http://www.rd.com/americanwoodworker/toolguide/TT_DrumSanders.pdf

Cheers,

Scott

Td

"TeamCasa"

in reply to "Jon Parry" on 11/02/2004 4:38 PM

11/02/2004 10:36 AM

Jon, I have the 16-32 It is a useful tool. However, it is not a planer. If
you use it as a drum sander you will enjoy it.
Dave




"Jon Parry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Greetings all,
>
> I'm in the market for a smallish drum sander, and I am looking at
> either the Performax 16-32 or 22-44. Anyone have any practical
> experiences / observations / opinions to share?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Jon.
>
>




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"Rob Spengler"

in reply to "Jon Parry" on 11/02/2004 4:38 PM

16/02/2004 8:03 AM

Jon,
I have a 16-32. It is a good sander, gives a fine finish, Paper is easy to
change. The only nagging problem is keeping the drum and the table (feeder)
aligned, although this is due to the the cantilever design. You just have to
check and adjust regularly.

Rob

"TeamCasa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Jon, I have the 16-32 It is a useful tool. However, it is not a planer.
If
> you use it as a drum sander you will enjoy it.
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> "Jon Parry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Greetings all,
> >
> > I'm in the market for a smallish drum sander, and I am looking at
> > either the Performax 16-32 or 22-44. Anyone have any practical
> > experiences / observations / opinions to share?
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> > Jon.
> >
> >
>
>
>
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"Jim p"

in reply to "Jon Parry" on 11/02/2004 4:38 PM

13/02/2004 7:11 AM

Have you ever ran pine through it..if soo how long before belts gum up?
Jim
"James D Kountz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Actually the 22-44 has been around just as long if not longer than the
> 16-32. They used to offer it (may still) in a radial arm saw converion
too.
> When I bought my 16-32 some 8-9 years ago the 22-44 was available then as
> well as a huge 50" version.
>
> Jim
>
> Oh and to answer the OP, I love the 16-32, use it everyday and it performs
> perfectly.
>
>
> "Nate B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Jon Parry"
> >
> > > I'm in the market for a smallish drum sander, and I am looking at
> > > either the Performax 16-32 or 22-44. Anyone have any practical
> > > experiences / observations / opinions to share?
> >
> > No experience whatsoever, but I've seen both. Seems to me the 22-44
plus
> is
> > the same as the 16-32 plus, with some refinements. The 22-44 plus will
> > slow the feed down if current draw to the motor exceeds some limit. The
> > 22-44 plus also seems to have some subtle improvements to the castings
> that
> > improve rigidity and make the machine easier to assemble and service.
> Makes
> > sense - the 22-44 plus was clearly designed later after things were
> learned
> > making the 16-32 plus.
> >
> > So - I bought a 22-44 plus. Seems 19" or more of capacity is a good
size.
> > Lots of 18" doors out there. Be interesting to hear from some people
who
> > have used the thing awhile, though.
> >
> > - Nate
> >
> >
>
>

gn

gabriel

in reply to "Jon Parry" on 11/02/2004 4:38 PM

11/02/2004 4:01 PM

Jon Parry wrote:

> I'm in the market for a smallish drum sander, and I am looking at
> either the Performax 16-32 or 22-44. Anyone have any practical
> experiences / observations / opinions to share?

I have heard over and over from people disappointed that these sanders do
not function that well for thickness sanding.

I would say if you want to take off 0.25" off something you run it through
a thickness planer first. Other than that, I've only heard good stuff
about them.

--
gabriel

NB

"Nate B"

in reply to "Jon Parry" on 11/02/2004 4:38 PM

11/02/2004 9:17 AM


"Jon Parry"

> I'm in the market for a smallish drum sander, and I am looking at
> either the Performax 16-32 or 22-44. Anyone have any practical
> experiences / observations / opinions to share?

No experience whatsoever, but I've seen both. Seems to me the 22-44 plus is
the same as the 16-32 plus, with some refinements. The 22-44 plus will
slow the feed down if current draw to the motor exceeds some limit. The
22-44 plus also seems to have some subtle improvements to the castings that
improve rigidity and make the machine easier to assemble and service. Makes
sense - the 22-44 plus was clearly designed later after things were learned
making the 16-32 plus.

So - I bought a 22-44 plus. Seems 19" or more of capacity is a good size.
Lots of 18" doors out there. Be interesting to hear from some people who
have used the thing awhile, though.

- Nate

NB

"Nate B"

in reply to "Jon Parry" on 11/02/2004 4:38 PM

11/02/2004 7:25 PM


"James D Kountz"

> Actually the 22-44 has been around just as long if not longer than the
> 16-32.

I was speaking of the 22-44 PLUS. You are speaking of something else.


- Nate



AB

Andrew Barss

in reply to "Jon Parry" on 11/02/2004 4:38 PM

19/02/2004 8:25 AM

Scott <[email protected]> wrote: : gabriel <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:<[email protected]>...

: As for the original question, a local Delta dealer had a compelling :
argument for the Delta vs the Performax 16-32. No surpise there I :
suppose.


Actually, that's some surprise. There are a LOT of negative comments on
the Delta, and few, if any, on the Performax.


When I bought mine, it was a really clear choice: superb reviews for
Performax, mediocre to abysmal for the Delta.


-- Andy Barss

JD

"James D Kountz"

in reply to "Jon Parry" on 11/02/2004 4:38 PM

11/02/2004 7:21 PM

Actually the 22-44 has been around just as long if not longer than the
16-32. They used to offer it (may still) in a radial arm saw converion too.
When I bought my 16-32 some 8-9 years ago the 22-44 was available then as
well as a huge 50" version.

Jim

Oh and to answer the OP, I love the 16-32, use it everyday and it performs
perfectly.


"Nate B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Jon Parry"
>
> > I'm in the market for a smallish drum sander, and I am looking at
> > either the Performax 16-32 or 22-44. Anyone have any practical
> > experiences / observations / opinions to share?
>
> No experience whatsoever, but I've seen both. Seems to me the 22-44 plus
is
> the same as the 16-32 plus, with some refinements. The 22-44 plus will
> slow the feed down if current draw to the motor exceeds some limit. The
> 22-44 plus also seems to have some subtle improvements to the castings
that
> improve rigidity and make the machine easier to assemble and service.
Makes
> sense - the 22-44 plus was clearly designed later after things were
learned
> making the 16-32 plus.
>
> So - I bought a 22-44 plus. Seems 19" or more of capacity is a good size.
> Lots of 18" doors out there. Be interesting to hear from some people who
> have used the thing awhile, though.
>
> - Nate
>
>


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