Hard paint recommendation

John Mitchell wrote:
> I'm looking for recommendations for a paint that will cure harder than
> the standard variety acrylic latex or alkyd enamel available in
> hardware stores.

Polyurethane.

It is available in stores too but generally not in many colors. If you want
color choice - and don't mind paying an arm and a leg - look in marine
stores.

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In article <[email protected]>,
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>
> John Mitchell wrote:
> > I'm looking for recommendations for a paint that will cure harder than
> > the standard variety acrylic latex or alkyd enamel available in
> > hardware stores.
>
> Polyurethane.
>
> It is available in stores too but generally not in many colors. If you want
> color choice - and don't mind paying an arm and a leg - look in marine
> stores.

Try an automotive paint shop. Stuff's even more expensive than marine
supplies, but it will stand up for a couple of decades outdoors and
they'll mix any color you want.

If it's going on wood though you don't want it _too_ hard or wood
movement will crack it.

John Mitchell wrote:

> I'm looking for recommendations for a paint that will cure harder than
> the standard variety acrylic latex or alkyd enamel available in
> hardware stores. Use to be indoors without any particular concerns
> for water or chemical resistance.

Alright - indoors... for what? Floor? Walls? Ceiling? Doors?

> My past experience with the above
> paints has resulted in premature wear on items subject to some hard
> use.

Like explanation would be helpful. You really don't think your requirements
are sufficient for any reasonable response, do you? "I want a hard paint,
and I've found other paints not to be hard enough..."


>
> I've found that the standard test for paint hardness is the pencil
> hardness test. However, the specs for this value are often only
> available for the paints for the industrial market, and I'm not sure
> how well the values compare across suppliers due to variability in the
> test as acknowdedged in the ASTM method.
>
> Any recommendations?
>

Not really - don't know what it is that you want. For a starting point at
least, what is the application, what pencil test hardness do you think you
want and why do you think that?s

> Thanks,
> John
> Suffolk, VA
> remove =A0 knowspaam for email

Hammerite in a spray can, or you can get quarts as well. I have a
steel pipe mailbox that I painted in 1996 and it is `just now` looking
like it could use a touch up. It is full of xylene and porcelain
chips in suspension... and cures hard as a rock. Comes in lots of
colors too.

wouldn't recommend it for wooden surfaces unless you are sure the wood
won't move (i.e. seal all sides) much.

On Jun 22, 9:04=A0pm, John Mitchell <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I'm looking for recommendations for a paint that will cure harder than
> the standard variety acrylic latex or alkyd enamel available in
> hardware stores. =A0Use to be indoors without any particular concerns
> for water or chemical resistance. =A0My past experience with the above
> paints has resulted in premature wear on items subject to some hard
> use. =A0My requirements are that it be suitable for rolling/brushing or
> available in a spray can since I don't have an appropriate spray rig.
> I also want a one-part formulation, preferably available in sizes
> smaller than 1 gallons. =A0My initial research points to
> urethane-modified alkyds such as Interlux Brightside, Pettit Easypoxy,
> Epifanes monourethane, etc. used for boat painting.
>
> =A0 I've found that the standard test for paint hardness is the pencil
> hardness test. =A0However, the specs for this value are often only
> available for the paints for the industrial market, and I'm not sure
> how well the values compare across suppliers due to variability in the
> test as acknowdedged in the ASTM method.
>
> Any recommendations?
>
> Thanks,
> John
> Suffolk, VA
> remove =A0 knowspaam for email

Tinted nitro lacquer, or nitro over a colored base coat.

chaniarts wrote:

>
> appliance epoxy paint.
>
> the paint on all my kitchen door pulls was chipping off after about 9
> years of not very heavy use. it wasn't well bonded to the underlying
> metal. i sandblasted all the pulls down to bare metal, which left a
> pretty matte surface. i then followed up with 2 coats of appliance
> epoxy paint (rustoleum rattle cans from HD). it was pretty soft even
> after being left in the sun for a few days. i fired them in my kiln
> at 350F for 4 hours. now, it's extremely hard paint and hasn't shown
> any markings or chips in a couple of years.

Cause and effect. It's not that the epoxy is better in your application,
it's more that the prep was not done right. Any paint should hold up for
that application, if the prep is proper.

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"John Mitchell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I'm looking for recommendations for a paint that will cure harder than
> the standard variety acrylic latex or alkyd enamel available in
> hardware stores. Use to be indoors without any particular concerns
> for water or chemical resistance. My past experience with the above
> paints has resulted in premature wear on items subject to some hard
> use. My requirements are that it be suitable for rolling/brushing or
> available in a spray can since I don't have an appropriate spray rig.
> I also want a one-part formulation, preferably available in sizes
> smaller than 1 gallons. My initial research points to
> urethane-modified alkyds such as Interlux Brightside, Pettit Easypoxy,
> Epifanes monourethane, etc. used for boat painting.
>
> I've found that the standard test for paint hardness is the pencil
> hardness test. However, the specs for this value are often only
> available for the paints for the industrial market, and I'm not sure
> how well the values compare across suppliers due to variability in the
> test as acknowdedged in the ASTM method.
>
> Any recommendations?
>
> Thanks,
> John
> Suffolk, VA
> remove knowspaam for email

Have you considered paint intended for floors?
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John Mitchell wrote:
> I'm looking for recommendations for a paint that will cure harder than
> the standard variety acrylic latex or alkyd enamel available in
> hardware stores. Use to be indoors without any particular concerns
> for water or chemical resistance. My past experience with the above
> paints has resulted in premature wear on items subject to some hard
> use. My requirements are that it be suitable for rolling/brushing or
> available in a spray can since I don't have an appropriate spray rig.
> I also want a one-part formulation, preferably available in sizes
> smaller than 1 gallons. My initial research points to
> urethane-modified alkyds such as Interlux Brightside, Pettit Easypoxy,
> Epifanes monourethane, etc. used for boat painting.
>
> I've found that the standard test for paint hardness is the pencil
> hardness test. However, the specs for this value are often only
> available for the paints for the industrial market, and I'm not sure
> how well the values compare across suppliers due to variability in the
> test as acknowdedged in the ASTM method.
>
> Any recommendations?

appliance epoxy paint.

the paint on all my kitchen door pulls was chipping off after about 9 years
of not very heavy use. it wasn't well bonded to the underlying metal. i
sandblasted all the pulls down to bare metal, which left a pretty matte
surface. i then followed up with 2 coats of appliance epoxy paint (rustoleum
rattle cans from HD). it was pretty soft even after being left in the sun
for a few days. i fired them in my kiln at 350F for 4 hours. now, it's
extremely hard paint and hasn't shown any markings or chips in a couple of
years.