dj

"dwolf"

03/06/2004 4:31 PM

Stool back angle ???

Got a pair of high stools with backs to make.... It's going to have a
cushion seat and a wood back... flat, no curve. I'm thinking the seat should
be parallel to the ground and the back at about 10 degrees ?? Any advise on
this.. thanks Jojo


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dj

"dwolf"

in reply to "dwolf" on 03/06/2004 4:31 PM

03/06/2004 5:07 PM

I just finished chairs at 5 degrees and I feel there a bit stiff... one
mistake I made on them was the seat has no angle... So for them my next step
is to remove about 1/4 inch from the back legs... So you think 5 degrees
with a flat seat for a stool ?
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "dwolf" wrote in message
> > Got a pair of high stools with backs to make.... It's going to have a
> > cushion seat and a wood back... flat, no curve. I'm thinking the seat
> should
> > be parallel to the ground and the back at about 10 degrees ?? Any
advise
> on
> > this.. thanks Jojo
>
> Generally the backs of chairs and benches are slanted back at 3 - 7
degrees
> ... I settled on 5 degrees as "just about right" for the ones I build.
>
> FWIW ... due to a waterskiing accident, SWMBO is very particular about
that
> particular angle, and the above seems to agree with her.
>
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>
>

dj

"dwolf"

in reply to "dwolf" on 03/06/2004 4:31 PM

04/06/2004 9:25 AM

And how about a stool....? Thanks Joel
"daclark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "dwolf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > Got a pair of high stools with backs to make.... It's going to have a
> > cushion seat and a wood back... flat, no curve. I'm thinking the seat
should
> > be parallel to the ground and the back at about 10 degrees ?? Any
advise on
> > this.. thanks Jojo
>
> Actually, your guess is closer than you might believe. For a
> comfortable chair, the seat should angle front to back by four or five
> degrees and the back angles away from the seat at four or five
> degrees...the total is eight or ten degrees. A slight curve in the
> crest rail and splats makes a world of difference in actual comfort,
> and the back is where you have the most opportunity for design...

dj

"dwolf"

in reply to "dwolf" on 03/06/2004 4:31 PM

04/06/2004 5:50 PM

The problem with the curve is it does have a crest rail but it also has a
panel that goes between the crest and the seat... I might think about
laminating that paned to a curve ?? but maybe not necessary for the design I
have.. It's an Art Deco original design, going with other pieces I have
already made for this client.... Nothing else has curves...
The Seat does have a cushion, so I haven't decided if it will have an angle
or sit flat... I went into a store an saw both options, but mostly flat. So
far I'm thinking of a flat set, with cushion and a 8 degree flat back ??
"daclark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I received your question, but the mail program returned the answer I
> sent.
> From your description, I did not envision a typical round stool, but
> more of a tall chair. With a fixed back, a seated person will tend to
> lean into it, and without a backward angle to the seat, the butt will
> slide.
> If you have a bandsaw, I can describe a simple method for cutting the
> curved crest rail...?

md

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in reply to "dwolf" on 03/06/2004 4:31 PM

03/06/2004 10:00 PM

"dwolf" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Got a pair of high stools with backs to make.... It's going to have a
> cushion seat and a wood back... flat, no curve. I'm thinking the seat should
> be parallel to the ground and the back at about 10 degrees ?? Any advise on
> this.. thanks Jojo

Actually, your guess is closer than you might believe. For a
comfortable chair, the seat should angle front to back by four or five
degrees and the back angles away from the seat at four or five
degrees...the total is eight or ten degrees. A slight curve in the
crest rail and splats makes a world of difference in actual comfort,
and the back is where you have the most opportunity for design...

md

[email protected] (daclark)

in reply to "dwolf" on 03/06/2004 4:31 PM

04/06/2004 8:21 AM

I received your question, but the mail program returned the answer I
sent.
From your description, I did not envision a typical round stool, but
more of a tall chair. With a fixed back, a seated person will tend to
lean into it, and without a backward angle to the seat, the butt will
slide.
If you have a bandsaw, I can describe a simple method for cutting the
curved crest rail...?

md

[email protected] (daclark)

in reply to "dwolf" on 03/06/2004 4:31 PM

05/06/2004 12:48 AM

"dwolf" <[email protected]> wrote in message

A usable curve for a 3/4 inch crest rail can be contained within the
thickness of 5/4 stock...for a twelve inch rail at a thirty-six inch
radius, that's a half inch of curve. A quarter-inch panel of solid
stock, 6 or 8 inches wide, will have sufficent pliability to be
tenoned in on the curve without ulterior effort...the panel will tell
you which way it wants to curve.

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "dwolf" on 03/06/2004 4:31 PM

03/06/2004 3:46 PM


"dwolf" wrote in message
> Got a pair of high stools with backs to make.... It's going to have a
> cushion seat and a wood back... flat, no curve. I'm thinking the seat
should
> be parallel to the ground and the back at about 10 degrees ?? Any advise
on
> this.. thanks Jojo

Generally the backs of chairs and benches are slanted back at 3 - 7 degrees
... I settled on 5 degrees as "just about right" for the ones I build.

FWIW ... due to a waterskiing accident, SWMBO is very particular about that
particular angle, and the above seems to agree with her.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 5/15/04

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "dwolf" on 03/06/2004 4:31 PM

03/06/2004 6:30 PM

"dwolf" wrote in message

> I just finished chairs at 5 degrees and I feel there a bit stiff... one
> mistake I made on them was the seat has no angle... So for them my next
step
> is to remove about 1/4 inch from the back legs... So you think 5 degrees
> with a flat seat for a stool ?

>> "Swingman" wrote in message
>>
>> ... I settled on 5 degrees as "just about right" for the ones I build.

It's what I settled on ... IMO, 10 degrees would be way too much, but this
is really a subjective and personal preference.

I am in the process of finishing an A & C style bench with a flat seat and a
5 degree angled back (pictures on the last project page on my web site below
... but a couple of weeks behind).

Hauled it out of the shop a couple of days ago and put it in position in the
kitchen while I finish the seat in the shop (the seat is going to be flat
slatted, much like the back, and will require beaucoup M&T joints). I can
tell you that everyone who has tried it with the temporary seat (plywood)
has remarked upon how comfortable the back angle is (5 degrees) with the
flat back and seat.

But once again, please yourself. I would feel almost laying down with 10
degrees, but that's just me.

In any event, good luck and let us know what you decide and how it works for
you.

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