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Hoyt Weathers

17/01/2004 12:39 PM

A table saw question

I have a General 350 TS. I bought a pair of Freud blade stiffeners and several Freud
TS blades. Should I install only one stiffener outboard of the blade or one on each
side of the blade? My concern is shifting the blade too far to the left such that the
blade is not centered in the table insert or may even touch it from the bottom. Sure,
I can try it both ways and see, but I thought you guys would save me the trouble of
doing that.


This topic has 6 replies

Jj

Jim

in reply to Hoyt Weathers on 17/01/2004 12:39 PM

19/01/2004 3:52 AM

I know it isn't necessary to to follow up with a "me too" on Charlie's
post, but....
Until I got a Woodworker II for Christmas (thanks Dad!), I had been using
thin kerf Freuds in all kinds of woods. I tried a blade stiffener and
the only thing I found was that the blades took longer to change. They
did help an Oldham blade I bought but even with the stiffener it wasn't
as good as the Freud.

That said, I was amazed at how much smoother the WWII ran. There was
literally NO vibration. It was obvious both in the sound of the saw and
the lack of..well.. vibration. I'm still not sure it is worth 2x the
Freud, but it is definately better.

Jim

[email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Hoyt Weathers asks:
>
>>I have a General 350 TS. I bought a pair of Freud blade stiffeners and
>>several Freud
>>TS blades. Should I install only one stiffener outboard of the blade
>>or one on each
>>side of the blade? My concern is shifting the blade too far to the
>>left such that the
>>blade is not centered in the table insert or may even touch it from
>>the bottom. Sure,
>
> Unless you're using thin kerf blades, you shouldn't need stiffners.
> I've used a lot of Freud blades over the years, and even with the thin
> kerf have never felt a need for stiffners. I'd return the stiffeners.
> Or try the blades, check your cuts and then return the stiffeners.
>
>
> Charlie Self
> "Take care of the luxuries and the necessities will take care of
> themselves." Dorothy Parker
>
> http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html
>

VD

"V.E. Dorn"

in reply to Hoyt Weathers on 17/01/2004 12:39 PM

19/01/2004 6:22 AM

I use a CMT "General" and have been thrilled with it, but as much as I read
about the WWII, I'm going to have to invest in one I think. The CMT is a
thin kerf and I would like a standard width blade. Will take the advise of
the group.

Don

Jim <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:%[email protected]...
> I know it isn't necessary to to follow up with a "me too" on Charlie's
> post, but....
> Until I got a Woodworker II for Christmas (thanks Dad!), I had been using
> thin kerf Freuds in all kinds of woods. I tried a blade stiffener and
> the only thing I found was that the blades took longer to change. They
> did help an Oldham blade I bought but even with the stiffener it wasn't
> as good as the Freud.
>
> That said, I was amazed at how much smoother the WWII ran. There was
> literally NO vibration. It was obvious both in the sound of the saw and
> the lack of..well.. vibration. I'm still not sure it is worth 2x the
> Freud, but it is definately better.
>
> Jim
>
> [email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > Hoyt Weathers asks:
> >
> >>I have a General 350 TS. I bought a pair of Freud blade stiffeners and
> >>several Freud
> >>TS blades. Should I install only one stiffener outboard of the blade
> >>or one on each
> >>side of the blade? My concern is shifting the blade too far to the
> >>left such that the
> >>blade is not centered in the table insert or may even touch it from
> >>the bottom. Sure,
> >
> > Unless you're using thin kerf blades, you shouldn't need stiffners.
> > I've used a lot of Freud blades over the years, and even with the thin
> > kerf have never felt a need for stiffners. I'd return the stiffeners.
> > Or try the blades, check your cuts and then return the stiffeners.
> >
> >
> > Charlie Self
> > "Take care of the luxuries and the necessities will take care of
> > themselves." Dorothy Parker
> >
> > http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html
> >
>

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Hoyt Weathers on 17/01/2004 12:39 PM

17/01/2004 7:48 PM

Hoyt Weathers asks:

>I have a General 350 TS. I bought a pair of Freud blade stiffeners and
>several Freud
>TS blades. Should I install only one stiffener outboard of the blade or one
>on each
>side of the blade? My concern is shifting the blade too far to the left such
>that the
>blade is not centered in the table insert or may even touch it from the
>bottom. Sure,

Unless you're using thin kerf blades, you shouldn't need stiffners. I've used a
lot of Freud blades over the years, and even with the thin kerf have never felt
a need for stiffners. I'd return the stiffeners. Or try the blades, check your
cuts and then return the stiffeners.


Charlie Self
"Take care of the luxuries and the necessities will take care of themselves."
Dorothy Parker

http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to Hoyt Weathers on 17/01/2004 12:39 PM

17/01/2004 2:09 PM

You can use both stiffeners but you'll have to remove the
splitter or move it the same distance as the blade.

UA100

Ff

--={Flyer}=--

in reply to Hoyt Weathers on 17/01/2004 12:39 PM

18/01/2004 5:05 AM

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 12:39:51 -0600, Hoyt Weathers <[email protected]> wrote:

>I have a General 350 TS. I bought a pair of Freud blade stiffeners and several Freud
>TS blades. Should I install only one stiffener outboard of the blade or one on each
>side of the blade? My concern is shifting the blade too far to the left such that the
>blade is not centered in the table insert or may even touch it from the bottom. Sure,
>I can try it both ways and see, but I thought you guys would save me the trouble of
>doing that.

Blade stiffeners are usually hollow ground or relieved in the center so that
pressure is applied at the periphery of the discs - farther from the saw blade
center than the arbor's mounting flange and nut washer provide. If you only
mount one stiffener on the shaft, it's going to apply pressure on only one side
of the blade. Use both or none.

Tom Flyer

Cm

"Cutter"

in reply to Hoyt Weathers on 17/01/2004 12:39 PM

18/01/2004 6:13 AM

I would use just one outboard of blade.


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